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Discussion in 'Educating Doctors' started by Jack Kruse, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. Jack Kruse

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    Despite what you may have learned at high school college, and in medical school, there are actually four states of matter: Solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. Plasmas are similar to gases in that they don’t have a definite shape or volume, but they also differ significantly, in that they are electrically conductive and produce a magnetic field. Some common examples of plasma are lightning, neon, and fluorescent lighting, the Sun, and — this will blow your mind — your mitochondrial matrix which makes deuterium depleted water. This water is a special state of plasma that stores both energy and information.

    To create a plasma, you essentially rip electrons away from their parent nuclei, leaving a ton of positively-charged nuclei in a sea of free-flowing electrons. Those electrons can then be donated to other tissues to control the energy and information in those electrons. The key is life has figured out how to drop the excitation of the energy in an electron without it ever being thermalized. By doing this, it preserves energy and information processing to innovate life from abiotic atoms. It is this sea of electrons that imbue plasma with its electrical conductivity, its magnetic field, and its sensitivity to external electromagnetic fields. This is how life reacts to the chaos of electromagnetic fields around us to begin organization from chaos. To rip the electrons away, you generally need a very high voltage potential (as in neon lights) or immense heat (stars). In the case of mitochondria that voltage is 30,000,000 million volts from the energy stored in electrons and protons that are charge separated by a very thin membrane. That membrane construction is critical in making this high voltage.

    In general, it’s very easy to produce plasmas in a vacuum and to control them with massive electromagnets. Mitochondria do not live in a vacuum. Most of our attempts at controlled nuclear fusion, which involves the creation of high-energy deuterium-tritium plasma, have required immensely powerful electromagnets to create and/or control the plasma. Mitochondria do this using deuterium in a unique way to control hydrogen to make energy and process information.

    In this new podcast by Gerry Pollack, you'll see how his thinking has no evolved about water. He is now approaching my ideas in biology and I submit to you this is good and it LONG overdue. His talk gets really interesting at the 50-minute mark. Sadly the person interviewing him did a poor job of asking him better questions about information processing in water. How the living state does this is what I have been working out for ten years.

    The University of Missouri in 2012, however, has devised a method of creating a plasma that creates its own magnetic field, which acts as a containment field as it travels through open air.

    Their technique has been protected from our view because of competition, but what I have found out that it only that it involves exploding a wire with a very high voltage to create the plasma — the same method used in mitochondria and to detonate nuclear bombs.

    It is time you get up to speed on this process because I believe it is operational in your colony of mitochondria. Sadly Gerry and his interviewer never get to this level of understanding. I am hoping to change this because I emailed the mechanism to Gerry once again in the hope of pushing his research to deuterium so he can show how cells really are water as a plasma to compute.
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  2. DrEttinger

    DrEttinger Choice, the only thing we control

    An interesting find about wireless communication, operating at 60GHz, from 2001. At the millimeter wave frequency of 60GHz, the absorption is very high, with 98 percent of the transmitted energy absorbed by atmospheric oxygen. In humans, the penetration depth shows that more than 90% of the transmitted non-ionizing radiation is absorbed in the epidermis and dermis, as heat. The more clothes the more the heat is trapped.

    Applying the Law Of Conservation Of Energy we can't destroy energy; only its form can change. What then happens to oxygen and water in the atmosphere, in plants, in all living creatures, and especially our matrix water, when a continuous stream of 60GHz radio frequency (RF) is transmitted into it? I'm far from an expert in this field, but I do suspect the O2 and H20 are not going to be left unchanged. Will the effect of this RF bombardment change electron spin affecting waters (matrix, atmospheric) ability to react with light?
  3. Jack Kruse

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    KREB'S BICYCLE WISDOM: You should never rely on thirst to dictate water consumption because it lags the real effect. Calculating your total body water deficit is another way to try to measure how badly your engine (TCA/urea cycle) is working. Total body water is a function of metabolic rate and state of the mitochondrial matrix. We covered this in the April 2013 webinar. By the time thirst kicks in, your serum osmolarity is already impaired. Dehydration is a major cause of daytime fatigue as well, and dehydration slows your metabolism by 2-3%. As time goes on this imbalance can steepen dramatically in a person in an altered environment. In fact, just a 2% drop in total body water can cause neurologic changes to show up. How do I know this? I am a neurosurgeon, and we see these swings all the time in trauma cases and brain tumors that are associated with syndromes called SIADH, cerebral salt wasting syndrome, and diabetes insipidus. They are related to vasopressin which is released from the POSTERIOR PITUITARY. Now think about what I mentioned in the April 2013 webinar for our members. Are you beginning to connect any dots that dehydration and nnEMF may be linked? Could this be why modern humans are afflicted by the opiate crisis? Look at the picture below. To understand how we work you need to see how the pieces fit and affect one another in a nonlinear fashion.

    Beta-endorphin is made via POMC and solar exposure of the eye as I showed in my Vermont 2017 video on Youtube. Morphine is an exogenous opioid that is used for people in pain. People deficient in solar exposure in the IRA, UVA, and UVB ranges have more pain and require more opioid drugs than those who get outside with the skin and eyes exposed to sunlight more often. THIS IS WHY IN THE LITERATURE THOSE WITH LOW VITAMIN D 25 DOH ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH PAIN SYNDROMES. THE VITAMIN D does not cause the pain, but it is a proxy that the DRUG USE IS DUE TO BEING INDOORS around blue light and nnEMF WAY that causes the INTRACELLULAR DEHYDRATION because of the mitochondrial defects in water production at CCO.
  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    We learned in RATS in the early 1990s that the circadian profile of arginine-vasopressin (AVP), a major peptide in the dorsomedial SCN, in rats varies. How does it vary in the nocturnal mammal? Under light-dark (LD), constant dark (DD) and constant light (LL) conditions. Under LD conditions, AVP levels in the SCN showed circadian rhythmicity with a peak at early light phase and a broad trough during the dark phase.

    This rhythm in the AVP contents was maintained even after 14 days of free-running under DD conditions and 3 days under LL conditions. These circadian patterns of AVP are similar to those of somatostatin, another peptide in the dorsomedial SCN. This data indicated back to us in 1992 there HAS TO BE a common mode of regulation for peptides in this subfield of the SCN.

    Guess what that common mode was? in 2014 where did we find melanopsin? BLOOD VESSELS. Blood is 93% water......normally, right?

    Vasopressin (arginine vasopressin, AVP; antidiuretic hormone, ADH) is a peptide hormone formed in the hypothalamus, then transported via axons to the posterior pituitary, which releases it into the blood.

    AVP has two principle sites of action: the kidney and blood vessels where MELANOPSIN RESIDES.

    1. The primary function of AVP in the body is to regulate extracellular fluid volume by regulating renal handling of water, although it is also a vasoconstrictor and pressor agent (hence, the name "vasopressin"). AVP acts on renal collecting ducts via V2 receptors to increase water permeability (cAMP-dependent mechanism), which leads to decreased urine formation (hence, the antidiuretic action of "antidiuretic hormone"). This increases blood volume, cardiac output and arterial pressure.
    2. A secondary function of AVP is vasoconstriction. AVP binds to V1 receptors on vascular smooth muscle to cause vasoconstriction through the IP3 signal transduction pathway and Rho-kinase pathway, which increases arterial pressure; however, the normal physiological concentrations of AVP are below its vasoactive range. Studies have shown, nevertheless, that in severe hypovolemic shock, when AVP release is very high, AVP does contribute to the compensatory increase in systemic vascular resistance.
    There are several mechanisms regulating the release of AVP, the most important of which are the following:

    1. Hypovolemia, as occurs during hemorrhage and dehydration, results in a decrease in atrial pressure. Specialized stretch receptors within the atrial walls and large veins (cardiopulmonary baroreceptors) entering the atria decrease their firing rate when there is a fall in atrial pressure. Afferent nerve fibers from these receptors synapse within the nucleus tractus solitarius of the medulla, which sends fibers to the hypothalamus, a region of the brain that controls AVP release by the pituitary. Atrial receptor firing normally inhibits the release of AVP by the posterior pituitary. With hypovolemia or decreased central venous pressure, the decreased firing of atrial stretch receptors leads to an increase in AVP release.
    2. Hypotension, which decreases arterial baroreceptor firing, leads to enhanced sympathetic activity that increases AVP release.
    3. Hypothalamic osmoreceptors sense extracellular osmolarity and stimulate AVP release when osmolarity rises, as occurs with dehydration.
    4. Angiotensin II receptors located in a region of the hypothalamus regulate AVP release – an increase in angiotensin II simulates AVP release.
    Heart failure is associated with what might be viewed as a paradoxical increase in AVP. Increased blood volume and atrial pressure associated with heart failure should decrease AVP secretion, but it does not. It may be that sympathetic and renin-angiotensin system activation in heart failure override the volume and low-pressure cardiovascular receptors (as well as the hypothalamic control of AVP release) and cause an increase in AVP secretion. Nevertheless, this increase in AVP during heart failure may contribute to the increase in systemic vascular resistance as well as the enhanced renal retention of fluid that accompanies heart failure.

    AVP infusion is sometimes used in treating septic shock, a condition that can be caused by a bacterial infection in the blood and the release of bacterial endotoxins such as lipopolysaccharide. Infusion of AVP increases systemic vascular resistance and thereby elevates arterial pressure. Some studies have shown that low-dose infusions AVP (which are used in septic shock) also cause cerebral, pulmonary and renal dilation (mediated by the endothelial release of nitric oxide) while constricting other vascular beds.


    Den Ouden, DT and Meinders, AE. Vasopressin: physiology and clinical use in patients with vasodilatory shock: a review. The Netherlands Journal of Medicine 63:4-13, 2005
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  5. Jack Kruse

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    At the core of the mammalian circadian oscillator lies an intricate arrangement of feedback loops..........and if you listened to last night's Q & A carefully for the February 2019 webinar you would have heard me say to Luke that when you do anything to introduce an exogenous material we MAKE......you might be creating collateral damage because you have ruined feedback control mechanisms you really do not understand.

    So what does vasopressin control in humans?

    A lot about the circadian control of water flow.

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  6. Jack Kruse

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    Eric Trudel and Charles Bourque at the Research Institute of the McGill University Health Centre in Montreal, Canada, propose a mechanism by which the body's circadian system, or internal clock, controls water regulation.


    1. Trudel, E. & Bourque, C. W. Nature Neurosci. doi:10.1038/nn.2503 (2010).
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  7. Jack Kruse

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    Trudel and Bourque tested the idea that lower clock-neuron activity might allow osmosensory neurons to more easily activate vasopressin-releasing neurons, which would mean more water retention and less urine production during sleep.

    To do this, they isolated thin slices of rat brain containing intact sensory, vasopressin-releasing and clock neurons. Even when removed from the brain, clock neurons continue to mark time.

    The duo then stimulated the sensory neurons and recorded any electrical activity in the vasopressin-releasing neurons to monitor communication between the two cell groups. The researchers then moved on to look at the effect of the clock cells on this pathway. When they did not activate the clock cells during the 'sleep' part of their cycle, it was easier for the sensory cells to communicate with vasopressin-releasing cells. Conversely, when they activated the clock cells, this communication decreased markedly.

    The results suggest that clock cells function as a dimmer switch for water control. When their activity is high, they prevent sensory cells from instructing secretory cells to release vasopressin. Then, when clock cells are less active, sensory cells can easily instruct secretory cells to release vasopressin, ensuring that the body holds on to its water reserves.

    This tells us when SOLAR redox is low you lose circadian control of water balance

    LARGE CAVEAT: The cited study above was done in rats, which are nocturnal. Although the vasopressin cycle and clock-neuron activity are similar in rats and humans, the question of whether the same mechanism occurs in animals that sleep at night STILL remains to be answered properly to my satisfaction.
  8. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    One of his key goals is to design a sensitive vasopressin test for healthcare workers to use for people with circadian arrhythmia in the ER. If levels can be assessed rapidly, it could help us, doctors, to understand how the body is managing water, giving clues as to how to deal with various illnesses with blue light and nnEMF exposures.

    Until recently (2017), it was thought to only work in a classic, negative feedback loop: when we are dehydrated (bad matrix function at CCO), levels of vasopressin rise, which causes urine to become concentrated in the kidneys, freeing up more water to be used in the body. Conversely, when we have too much water in our body, vasopressin levels decrease, and urine is diluted. What is that is not all that it does?

    What if drinking water post-sunset is mandatory for the outdoor living creature?

    The Canadian research showed that mice increased water intake just before sleep. Rather than being motivated by a physiological need for water, the drinking response was solely based on the animal's circadian rhythms. <----------BIG FREAKING DEAL.

    In 2017 the same researchers found Vasopressin does more than they thought initially. They found that not only is there a vasopressin circadian feedback loop, but "it's also involved in feed-forward mechanisms. This is quite important in understanding from a chronobiologic perspective. They determined that this molecule is produced in the brain right before people go to bed WHEN IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DARK, and during sleep, in anticipation of the dehydrating effect of sleep. See during sleep autophagy is very active if you are healthy.......and when you are recycling mitochondria during autophagy you cannot make any water at CCO. What happens if you cannot make water even in the sunlight because you've lost total control of autophagy because of chronic toxic blue light and nnEMF light stress? There is only one way to repair that well. It means that we need SUNLIGHT IS MANDATORY to make water at CCO during the day. If you do not get enough or live at a high latitude and inside you need more water. If we do not get enough sunlight then we lose circadian feedback control of vasopressin and the entire water cycle in our body. So.......Dr. Boros has not thought this out well from the Black Swan perspective.


  9. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    What caps water intake in humans with good circadian clock control?

    Right prefrontal cortex 'overrides' swallowing inhibition for excess water = DOPAMINE levels are ideal = AM sunlight.

    Shocker to no Black Swan.

    If your clock mechanism is good......you won't need a lot of water, but if you have melanopsin damage you'll need a ton.

  10. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Based on the fact that about two-thirds of our bodies are comprised of water, it may seem obvious that consuming water is important for our health. But a study founds that by increasing water consumption, we can control our weight and reduce intakes of sugar, sodium and saturated fat.......guess why? We can harvest hydrogen from water over the saturated fats to get that constant H+ source we need to drive our Turing machines called mitochondria. When you understand this......you begin to see why water becomes critical to people with bad clock timing. https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/333584

    The Black Swan knows that all water is not created equal......and some water is better for the defective matrix. That means obesity can be controlled using water and light when you understand how both really work in the living state. I submit to you all.......very people have my insight what nature is really telling us empirically here.

    Remember my Black Swan mitochondriacs, empirical evidence is nature’s only acceptable form of truth. Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic; it is not the other way around.

    There are too many research papers being written because someone has set a quota for authors of how many papers they must write in order to get a job, or keep it, or get promoted. Remove that requirement and a lot fewer papers would be written with no loss to science or humanity.

    The methods deployed to subvert scientific method are not unique, they are pervasive throughout scientific literature and represent the dire crisis which faces evidence-based medicine today, a systematic assault, intent on distorting and manipulating scientific inquiry for its own gain to support the paradigm biases. I will remind you that Dr. B is part of that research paradigm at UCLA.
  11. Jack Kruse

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    I recently said this in a podcast: "We are on the Titanic with respect to how we are choosing to live. Do you want to be one of the people who listen to music? Or do you want to be one of the people who fight to get in a lifeboat?” Why did I say it? I want you to know every choice you make at this precipice has a consequence. The choice you make determines the lesson you get.
    I equate the people who stay willfully ignorant to the health dangers around us as the ones who stand and listen to the music.

    Being in nature is not expensive. Living in the wrong place quite expensive because of the chronic light stress it MIGHT come with. I think the message is inconvenient to people because they do not want to change big things in their environment until their life is threatened and they are at the precipice. When you find yourself at the edge of a precipice, every step you take from that point becomes vital. THIS WAS THE REAL DATA BEHIND MY PASSION LAST NIGHT ON THE Q & A to SEVERAL MEMBERS. How you think is the hugest deal. This thread has become another proof of last night's Q & A fro the Feb 2019 webinar. The deeper we get into a 5G world the worse your thinking is going to become. The essence of the analogy for the Black swan is this: The edge of a precipice is a very merciless school for humans; spending time there you either learn to be serious or you die foolishly. Choose wisely. That is the critical lesson buried at the heart of the quote. AM light is where that dopamine override comes from.

  12. Jack Kruse

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    Life is very clever. It figures out how to suck electrons out of everything we eat or drink and power them up with sunlight and after this happens we become more able to control the flow of H+ protons in the mitochondria while keeping deuterium in our blood where it belongs. Sunlight and the circadian mechanism keeps these Turing motion of subatomic particles completely under control. When you lose the control mechanism all hell breaks loose. It turns out blue light and nnEMF chronic light stress are all that it takes to let hell break loose.
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  13. axel brandt

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    High water consumption before going to bed may not be a wise move, considering that as we age, there is a steep decline on ADH (antidiuretic hormone) secretion. That may produce nocturia, fragmenting sleep as a consecuence. Add to that possible edema reabsorption from mild heart insufficiency or varicose veins, low urinary tract symptoms from prostate enlargment (BPH) and the risk of nocturia will increase considerably.
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  14. kris90

    kris90 New Member

    I've always knew my habits of pounding back water (since I began IFing in 2012) were likely beneficial in a modern environment. It's always kept my hunger levels at bay allowing me to go quite long without food.

    I've noticed that since significantly increasing my fat intake in the last couple years and adding salt to my water, I've cut my water consumption in half. I drink a good amount in the morning and pee like crazy, and then my drinking and urinating slows down as the day progresses, and I never drink any water beyond dinner. Never have to wake up to pee either. I'm assuming this is a sign of a strong redox and my mito is producing sufficient DDW?
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  15. axel brandt

    axel brandt New Member

    And because you are young and secrete adequate ammounts of ADH !

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