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When sex is bad...........

Discussion in 'Female Quantum Biology' started by Jack Kruse, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Ladies I am looking for feedback here. Let's talk about bad sex for a moment. If this is something you think is common drop me a line below. I am contemplating getting into designing something to help the many facets of this condition out but I have not done it yet because I believed the target market was low. I have been persuaded by my team to crowdsource this to see if the condition is a lot more common than I think and that it is something we should target. Many believe that the topic is under reported and talked about because of stigmata. Let me know what you think. Thanks. http://theweek.com/articl…/749978/female-price-male-pleasure


     
  2. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    Even with a good partner, from an environmental perspective, I would suspect that its still probably on the increase. For example drops in libido, and if in REM sleep the clitoris engorges, and vaginal pulse and lubrication increase, then a sexually maturing female in a 24/7 poor environment may not experience a natural sexual response from the outset. I didn't learn it didn't have to be painful until my 30s. Certainly not something I talked about to anyone else at the time, but in hindsight :rolleyes: he was the first and I had nothing to compare to. No more lie back and think of England for me. :D
     
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  3. karenr

    karenr Silver

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  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    I posted this on FB and the ladies came out in droves. Crickets here.
     
  5. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    Hmmm. All those FB ladies probably Zuckerberg in disguise man. Maybe you got punked!
     
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  6. ValerieBee

    ValerieBee Radical Mitochondriac

    I think "bad" sex is ubiquitous, and can happen even in "good" long term relationships. I honestly couldn't even imagine meeting a woman who has not had bad sex. I think the author of this article sums it up nicely. I was perplexed about the #metoo movement in this respect as well--what woman has lived without any sexual harassment or misogynistic marginalization? We aren't taught as women to honor our own bodies or needs or desires, the concepts around menstruation are shrouded in shame and confusion, pregnancy is seen as a medical event that we are best left to let someone else manage for us, bodies are hyper-sexualized, everyday language is filled with ways that we oppress the feminine--"don't be a pussy," "don't be hysterical." I agree with the author here we are conditioned to believe that being female means accepting pain (that is, in fact, historically how modern day obstetrics got on a roll--things like "twilight sleep" were seen as a way for a woman to empower herself to establish control over her "inevitable" pain in labor). On another level the concepts and strengths seen as feminine, and that come from the yin energy are similarly looked down upon--the ability to wait something out without taking action in the face of adversity (the art of nondoing), service and nurturing jobs are typically paid less--caregivers and teachers. These kinds of things are entrenched in our world economy, brilliantly elucidated by minds like Marilyn Waring, who brought awareness to the global stage that economies are built on destruction and war, and no economic value is placed on things like preserving our natural lands or clean water, or on the invisible efforts of women who stay at home with children thereby enabling their partners to work. Bad sex is going to happen until women are able to remember and realize their sacredness. The shift is happening.
     
  7. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    I think its all about your state of mind and I also believe its about your hormones. I have had moments where I felt like whatever and then times I would take action. I have had painful intercourse but it was hormone related. I notice not even sex related my mental state could change day to day, but there is always that subconscious thoughts knowing what is right from wrong. Not sure if I understood the question asked.
     
  8. Not so, unfortunately women go through a a roller coaster in life from the on-set of puberty to post menopause. Hormones play a tremendous role in the equation.
     
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  9. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    So true, IMO too.
     
  10. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    This is such a loaded question .......in my limited experience I would think both men and women experience bad sex occasionally.

    In my personal experience hormones played a huge part in messing me up over quite a few years. The thing is - I didn't know better........but now I do.

    In my opinion - the medical profession is not up to speed on women and hormone issues etc ....so we could use all the help you can give us.

    I had an issue a few years ago and not one of the 4 Doctors I saw could help me .......I read a ton of books and talked to many people and the one person who understood what the issue was [and it was a simple issue btw] - was a woman I met in Orlando when I went to meet JK. How entangled is that????
     
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  11. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    I always had problem with doctors not wanting to check progesterone because I wasn't pregnant. This doctor I went to I had to argue with to have them done. It should be routine.
     
  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    @caroline
    As you may know I am trying to look at steroid and other hormones in as full picture as I can get it.

    Would you be kind enough to tell me (in detail)
    what was your problem
    how it presented on tests
    and how it was solved.

    Thank you.
    ....
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2018
  13. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Whoa a bit personal!
    And record it slowly in a sultry voice too @caroline...

    I'll always overshare. Based on Doc and many of the lady members here my wife aims the V at the sun regularly. The differences are dramatic to the point where I keep track and make sure "we" get enough exposure. It makes the whole relationship way easier for both of us.
     
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  14. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I have shared a lot of things here because I think ultimately everyone benefits ......but this is a little too personal - altho I think I have talked to you Dan about this privately.

    In the long run it was a simple issue to do with menopause and inactivity because my DH had been so sick for so many years.

    At the end of the day - It really was so simple and a Doc should have picked it up pretty fast. I wound up listening to my own intuition and ...I pretty much figured it out for myself with the help of Susan Wright in the U.S. who is a nurse practitioner.

    One female Doc in her late thirties thought I was crazy to be asking about BHRT - she said she would never do anything that stupid. Another female Doc who specialises in female vaginal issues was no help at all. Her manner was totally dismissive. I would have crumbled and given up if I hadn't know better because of jackkruse.com.

    I have so much to be grateful for ........
     
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  15. Mayuri

    Mayuri Silver

    Well, so much to consider here. My experience is that we are all so blooming conditioned. Hollywood dictates what kind of sex we should be having. We see female orgasms being performed on TV and then men expect that and same with their performances. The huff and puff breathing and then the moaning; and give me a break! My male friend said to me, "my partner told me she has orgasms every time we make love. Do you think she does?"
    I just gave him that Gregory Peck look, with one eye brow up. Honestly, not all women have orgasms as they do in the movies! Sometimes its very subtle, other times it can generate endorphins and its a nice high, it doesn't always have to be a heavy pulsating and yet we're all conditioned to expect the big bang. It's sad really. Albeit, there are different kinds of orgasms, clitoral and uterine, and every woman is different. Yes, I think women are often under pressure to deliver the performance. The truth is that some need heavy stimulation and others very light stimulation, it's not all that h o l l y w o o d nonsense. Women are under pressure to perform according to the 'script', and I think men are too. Have to say I don't know too many women who have pain during sex. I didn't and don't. The article says only 30%. Perhaps older women are more prone to pain? For certain, foreplay is vitally important for women to have orgasms. That means taking one's time during sex and these days not too many have the time. We're exhausted from work and over stressed. Additionally, people really need sex nowadays because of the severe stress everyone is under. Somehow it's not about love anymore.
    The old adage that you can tell when someone hasn't had sex is true, people get very uptight and some even go mad - for instance; when their partner is impotent, there are actual psychological difficulties.
    So, trying to answer the question here: I think if you can design something to make sex more playful and relaxed for both parties, to somehow make pleasure easier to reach - why not?
    Staged sex = Bad sex
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2018
  16. Richelle Jones

    Richelle Jones Eve Mytokondrya

    the absolutely most amazing boost to my love life occurred when my partner and i started sunbathing naked. nothing more horny than sunlight. I am 51 (still peri menopause) and my husband is 56. We have been sun baking naked for the last 4 years. Spectacular. absolutely nothing compares. most amazing change i have ever experienced.
     
  17. shiran

    shiran Curious

    Still trying to find a way to sunbathe naked near my house....
    It's kinda complicated you know
    I have a kiniki but I want the real deal..
    As for the sex feedback.. lots had been said here
    Sun = sex
    No sun = poor sex
     
  18. Inger

    Inger Silver

    This is so true! Every woman should do vaginal tanning!! :) :) :) Just did 30 minute session as the sun come out for a short while, finally :) :)
     
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  19. Inger

    Inger Silver

    :tears:
     
  20. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Try if you can build a space where no one can see? Can you tan in front of an open window or door, to begin with? Because you really need a unseen place for this..lol You need to really spread your legs wide and let the sun in.. and that is a little too provocative to do in public in our culture :rolleyes:
    I can do it on my terrace but landlord might walk downside of it in the garden so I always have some cloth to put on if he appears, which is very seldom. He does not mind tho, but still ;). Especially in the morning sun nobody seems to be outside so that is to my favor :) :)
     

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