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What the H--- is Factor X??? Post your guesses.

Discussion in 'Cold Thermogenesis' started by AKMan, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. AmyK

    AmyK New Member


    I don't see a Factor-X thread on his FB wall either, Melinda. Maybe he meant his private wall???
     
  2. Its on his time line...look for the 'optimal' logo right hand side few posts down.





    I want to erase myself, i just need to find the little rubber thing at the top of the pencil.



    Clean slate at 60. Is it possible?
     
  3. DarleenMB

    DarleenMB Silver

    I give up. I cannot find it. Can't find the "optimal" logo either.
     
  4. LinD

    LinD New Member

    I see the 60+ comments on the link Jack provides on his FB and he says, "This thread is a gas."
     
  5. several JK FB pages. Search in your FB page search box for 'Jack.Kruse' (profile pic at the moment is the TED cartoon.)
     
  6. Melinda

    Melinda New Member

    I still can't find it. A link anyone....
     
  7. chocolate

    chocolate Silver

    me three. I can't find it.
     
  8. Dextery

    Dextery New Member


    http://www.facebook.com/#!/jack.kruse about half way down. "This thread is a gas" Click on 66 comments.
     
  9. Melinda

    Melinda New Member


    I get to the page (have been there looking around). I do not see the words "This thread is a gas". How about a link to the actual thread? Thanks in advance for your help Dextery.
     
  10. Dextery

    Dextery New Member


    It is there. Click again on the link and when the page comes up, hit control F and that brings up a box...enter the word "gas" and it will take you to the comments. The FB page is the only place the comments are posted. This is where AB nailed the Factor X...very close but still cannot put it together.



    Have you liked or friended Dr Kruse? You may have to do that before you see the posting.
     
  11. Melinda

    Melinda New Member

    I bet you are correct about having to be a "friend". I hit command F, typed in gas and got nothing. I friended him...will see what happens. I have "liked" him over on the other FB page. Thanks again for your input.
     
  12. This thread is a total gas.

    What the H--- is Factor X??? Post your guesses.

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    I think Factor X is Brown Adipose Tissue.

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    Kevin Cottrell and 5 others like this.



    Brian Joseph Kerley I think you like to hide things out in the open. Like your fb comments about "chill-axin".

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    Brian Joseph Kerley And a numb chest

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    Jack Kruse I will tell you this.......Factor X is something you walk on everyday and don't realize it

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    Bryan Barksdale your feet!

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    Michele Klingensmith Wilson earthing? that is my guess

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    Brian Joseph Kerley Is Factor X the sensibilities of the establishment paleosphere?

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    Brian Joseph Kerley I need at least 20 likes on that comment.

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    Jack Kruse Brian those steeped in evolution yep. It has stopped some of them cold in their tracks when I shared it with them. Ask Kevin Cottrell or Abel James Bascom if its based upon my theory or some real hard scientific facts.

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    Jack Kruse earthing is not it.......bu tcan lead you to it. LOL Im such a tease.

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    Patrick Palmese From what my feable mind can comprehend factorx is living an optimal life by natural order of proper food, excercise and following the rythems of thousands of years of man coexsiting with nature.

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    Jack Kruse how about millions......millions more than man has existed. The science of epigenetics is ten years old maybe.......look at what I wrote int the transgenerational blog post.......you are a result of what grandma did........now expand the world view......man is a result of what our ancestors did. I am very directional accurate here. And Factor X is the tie to that concept.

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    Patrick Palmese I found a New mattress to keep you cool at night by lowering your body temp, its called Night Therapy Elite , mygel prestige memory foam is a 13inch layer of gel infusion, very reasonably priced.

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    Jeff Robertson So I take it factor X is not a jetpack? A shame really, I've always wanted an excuse to buy a jetpack.

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    Jack Kruse i can make it fit into the blog if you want?

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    Jack Kruse Pat I found a cave and a slate floor......in the man room. Its cheap too. Rough sleeping naked on it though

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    Gretchen Bronson This is the ultimate brain tease. I *think* I know what Factor X is but I'm not 100% sure. :)

    6 hours ago · Like

    Jack Kruse PM me then

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    Boots Ross I believe it is "intent." I don't have the scientific knowledge for that, but in my own journey in the wilderness, I have realized I've created who I am in my mind. The universe and my body responds by creating the opportunity for me to take the next step in my creation.

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    A.b. Dada Factor X is alpha-MSH.

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    Gretchen Bronson Ok. Will do !

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    Jack Kruse Alpha MSH release is the effect of Factor X......but it is not factor X. It allows for most of the crazy bioche,is try we see in the Ancient Pathway

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    Gretchen Bronson I can answer that as a no!!!/>
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    A.b. Dada Dang. My only two guesses were either MSH or endotoxin -- at least I gave it a stab, haha.

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    Michele Klingensmith Wilson Jack for some weird reason your comment about grandma made me think of something I heard was in the bible, not that I read it but something about inequities lasting to the 3rd and 4th generation. Incidentally, I wonder if you have ever read "Forbidden Archeology" which would lead some to believe humans have been around hunting/gathering much much longer than is currently accepted in scientific circles. Meaning much longer of not being an agricultural society in the bigger picture. And now I am thinking maybe humus soil? The stuff with all the good bacteria? for factor x

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    Jack Kruse I'm going way back.....the bible is a young record....and not very accurate either.

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    Jack Kruse For me the bible is a teacher of parables......i think when you take it literally you make some real big errors.

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    A.b. Dada Hmm. a-MSH is released during tanning (and causes erections, I believe), so maybe Factor X is sunlight -- a precursor to tanning.

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    Brian Joseph Kerley We walk on our ancestors

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    Jack Kruse Ab you're closing in on something....give you erections why? And it make you darker why? People with darker skin are more resistant to the pain of cold temperatures.......why? Why are most polar animals loaded with black......and all have high levels of alpha MSH????? And you're right it does give male erections and give females more libido and orgasmic too.........You just fell into the reason why the Ancient Pathway was selected for.......now close the deal. That is a lot of hints I gave you.

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    Jack Kruse We don't even walk like egyptians anymore.......forget our ancestors.

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    Jack Kruse AB evolution has but one concern........reproductive fitness........and you just fell into something I have been hinting at for months........

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    A.b. Dada Hmm, now I'm more curious than ever -- how about... human genetic dominance of MC4R, but inbreeding caused mutation of MC4R that has led to obesity (and maybe even loss of ability to increase pigment darkening to prevent melanoma?). Sunlight + MC4R => a-MSH + increased libido, except in people who have MC4R genetic mutation that leads to obesity and cancer?

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    Jack Kruse AB keeping it rolling.......

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    Jack Kruse that defect goes all the way back..........to.......That is where I stop LOL

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    A.b. Dada Inbred polymorphism, from Adam and Eve's children procreating? Haha, just kidding. Hmm, I'm thinking -- I need some espresso for your status debates, Dr. Jack. Let me see...

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    Boots Ross thanks to this thread, I may have come to the possible reasons why my skin was darkening in the most embarrasing places due to my insulin resistance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acanthosis_nigricans

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    Jack Kruse yes......that is precisely why it happens......evolutionary biology 101. Guess what......get rid of the IR with CT and the Leptin reset and it goes away too.......

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    A.b. Dada Ok, how about this... Y-linked mc4r mutations (non-functional) lead to obesity and reduced desire to procreate? Y-link meaning from the father-to-son, also known as the fastest EVOLVING part of the human genome?

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    Jack Kruse What control fecundity? What is the name of the Ancient Pathway....??? you are doing well.

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    Jack Kruse I told you the name in CT 6.

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    A.b. Dada I didn't read any of the CT stuff yet, haha. Planned to on my trip to Vegas next week. But I would guess.. estradiol, most likely.

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  13. Jack Kruse nope.....its called the Leptin melanocortin pathway........Surprise! Leptin controls all mammalian fecundity in all species.......

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    Jack Kruse the more sensitive is to leptin the more fecund you are........and the colder you are the more LS one becomes............

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    A.b. Dada Crap -- so is it that cold exposure greatly decreases leptin production? Or, vice versa, does excessive leptin production cause one to seek colder climates?

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    A.b. Dada I'm familiar with the leptin-melanocortin pathway stuff -- although I barely graduated high school, I've always been biochem-curious, but I get stuck on the sticky parts like MC4R mutations and what the reasoning or theory was for these mutations since they seem to be counter-evolutionary and not pro-evolutionary. The MC4R mutations *HAVE TO BE* environmental, but in my (casual, amateur and unscientific) studies, most people point to genetic polymorphism instead of actual evolutionary change for the better. Unless (UNLESS!) MC4R mutations are a *recent* trend and, if so, the polymorphism will continue to exist until the weaker genetic traits have "died off" -- which makes sense, because who really wants to have sex with an obese person to procreate if there are significant choices of partners who are healthy-appearing?

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    Jack Kruse No......but there is a reason for that too......is has to do with a mismatch created by factor X. it speeds epigentetics up more than the evolutionary speed.......epigenetic speed is like C2 is in Einstein's famous equation......E= mc2. Factor X is that important.

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    Jack Kruse AB it not......the cause of the SNP's is because our deep ancestors evolved from cold to warm......and this changes led to the SNP;s and obesity.

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    Boots Ross Yes, it has. I thought it was because i had less skin rubbing due to my weight loss or that i was allergic to metal (of my razor). For the first time in my life, I get told I have beautiful skin--- if they only knew how i suffered. You go through this psychosis thinking you are genetically inferior...that some people just got "it", and that's just how the dice roles, and really everything is from that fucking insulin resistance. Your body wants to continue to heal, and be as attractive as it possibly can if only to propulgate the race to its ascension.

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    A.b. Dada Ok, so then that's reversible -- or at least you're postulating as such. If it's epigenetic, then there's no actual nucleotide modification, meaning it's purely misregulated gene expression, i.e. temporary and hopefully reversible. Interesting.



    I can casually agree, again with no scientific degree, that the adaptation of our ancestors from cold to warm was likely destructive in terms of our innate ability to withstand great extremes and environmental stresses -- combine that migration to warmer climates with the human creation of agriculture (and so on and so on) and it would make sense that epigenetic changes are a combination of diet and environment, but is there any research into nucleotide modifications that can lead to DNA change in the past, say, 100 years?

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    A.b. Dada Jack, you ever consider sharing your status posts not just with "friends" but with "friends of friends"? I have friends who would love to read this stuff, but they're closed off. Although, I'm sure you have your reasoning, ha.

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    Jack Kruse dude my posts are on the blog for free........

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    Patrick Palmese Jackie, so the primal in us is drawn to the sea where we emerged from, cold and dark waters, where we got our daily sustenance from, so are genetics, molecular DNA all bring us to cold to make us whole again?

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    Jack Kruse I have a public FB page.....Dr. Jack Kruse Most of my blogs are also loaded there.

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    A.b. Dada Yeah, but it's the status commentary that is always exciting, ha. I tend to just copy and paste the good stuff into an email.

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    Jack Kruse Pat......its even more interesting than that. When i tell you soon you will be shocked.

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    Jack Kruse But your correct in theory pat.

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    Patrick Palmese See I am learning fro you!

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    Jack Kruse AB its not misregualted gene expression.......im saying something way more radical......humans are designed to be cold adapted and we don't know it because we evolved into a a warm environment by an environmental mismatch.......and when you hear Factor X you will begin to see why I am correct. And my last bio hack experiment that I did announce live at TED on 3/31 was in part to prove this pathway is still active in us.....modern humans. CT 9 is the first person other than me.......who I also should it in. Just way til you hear and see his video.

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    A.b. Dada I have no doubt that there's a genetic desire for colder temperatures. When I was a teenager, I was cold ALL THE TIME and used to bundle up and only got colder. At 19, I decided to see if I could overcome the cold naturally through biological methods, and today (19 years later) I can still go outside in near-frigid temperatures with no shirt on and people will tell me that my body seems to be a natural heater.



    Works well for the ladies in winter when Papa D doesn't even need bed covers to stay warm, ha.

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    Jack Kruse Boots regarding your frustration......this is for you. It will be a line from new post CT 9. The "soul of biology" knows how to heal itself, the main challenge to success is to learn to silence the mind simultaneously.

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    Gretchen Bronson Ab. If you want a clue read the link & the entire thread then watch Linkin Parks what I've done. Then put everything together

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    Jack Kruse Nice Gretch! She is correct.

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    Mark Robillard Just thinking out loud here, but does our hairless skin allow us to do some things that other mammals cannot? I was thinking all this morning about what makes us different from everyone else. At first I thought that maybe it was our knees that allows us to not only swim deep, but also to run and climb trees, thus having access to varied and multiple food sources. But maybe it's our skin that allows us to adapt to any extreme...

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    Jack Kruse nope......losing our fur has more to do with our ability to control our environment with our brain

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    Mark Robillard Ah, that makes sense

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    Jack Kruse Mark it is coming in good time. Just think and PM me........

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  14. LinD

    LinD New Member

    Our skin as it triggers oxytocin release
     
  15. Jim

    Jim New Member

    OK I must admit that I have not read this entire thread so hopefully I am not repeating anything. Here goes.



    I went back to the Quilt and looked at Level #1 - the most important one. Here it is in it's entirety




    Then I read this article in Time Magazine on epigenetics http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1952313,00.html



    Very interesting that the example they used was from a group of folks living in Northern Sweden and spoke about the cold and starvation.



    Putting it all together. basically I believe that if we change our nutrition and our terrior (our environment) to the way our ancestors lived i.e. cold adapted and nutritionally "in the moment", then we can drive our personal epigentics in reverse to free us from our neolithic diseases.



    Or, to put it another way...[​IMG]



    Sorry if I offended anyone with the language.
     

  16. Critics are such an important symbol in progress. NO great ideas are met with immediate approval from everyone. If the idea/concept/new thing is bad or worthless, people don't get worked up and bother rejecting.



    Next time your in a committee/group. Propose something really boring and lame and simply not true. Watch how it kind of dies in their minds. It must have some kernel of relevance - even if it's unconscious to a person, it forces priority in subject hierarchy in the brain. Their body forces it to be relevant, thus behaviors are altered because of this.



    So, when someone has a need to outwardly criticize (without a deliberate motivating factor of changing something), it means you got them. It's defensive. It's a threat. Animals cornered with a threat are feral-behaving.



    So it would literally be IMPOSSIBLE, no matter what the evidence/proof etc, for you to make this kind of change in something without eliciting a feral response in others.



    It's more of that balance of nature stuff. Wish I could have understood all this long ago, but here we are - hopefully I can impart some wisdom to the next gen.
     
  17. chocolate

    chocolate Silver

    Well, I read the article and loved it. I also am more committed than ever to a good b complex. And the fact that people are loved through generations, carry it with them, and pay it forward. Its neat that they are born prepared to learn.



    I'm sorry, that's only rats. People that treat their offspring like a meal ticket don't perpetuate like rats. They have the same non-jail, non-single parent, non-high school drop out, rate as everyone else. Right?



    Apples don't fall far from the tree. Apples aren't people. Right?



    Anyway, if I were a rat, I would be very proud to have well nurtured children. The grand-rats would be doozies, too.
     
  18. LinD

    LinD New Member

  19. youthfuliz

    youthfuliz New Member


    LOL such a fun pic! :D
     
  20. chocolate

    chocolate Silver

    I have been reading up on the oxytocin and hibernation. Perty neat.
     

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