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Ways to deplete Deuterium

Discussion in 'Cold Thermogenesis' started by shiran, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

  2. Mito1

    Mito1 New Member

  3. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Read description,
    these are not deuterium depleted waters.


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  4. Penny

    Penny New Member

    It seems cheaper and simpler to just pop the $1.50 for a bottle of San Pellegrino...
     
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  5. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Wonder if they would be willing and able to test Pellegrino with one of their tests?
    https://www.cignaturehealth.com/


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  6. Penny

    Penny New Member

    I thought it would be fun to contact San Pellegrino about the wonders of deuterium depleted water - but then I thought the price of their water would go through the roof... the deuterium test is interesting - but what is normal? Or is it the new normal...
    How much is the test?

    At least now I know why Brazil nuts give me more energy than LEF selenium pills:)
     
  7. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    DDW Deuterium depleted water

    Price of test is $225 0r $250 (but in video the mention $90).

    Talking about adults that stopped growing, desirable is 13oppm or less.
    Growing people are enigma at this time. Deuterium rules over GH, Growth Hormone, so sometime more, other times less is required (naturally).

    That large black guy on the left, on the video, mentioned that
    important is first phase (when using DDW one reaches 130ppm
    that takes long
    but then he easily reached 90's
    and it appeared that he did not wanted to push it any lower (but I do not know his reasons).

    Apparently BMI Body Mass Index is not of their concern.
    Guy on the left and guy on the right are rather corpulent.

    Available deuterium depleted waters are:
    125ppm
    105
    85
    65
    45
    25

    so, knowing San Pellegrino's deuterium content
    would allow us to have opinion about it.

    .............
     
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  8. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

    I came across this interesting read: http://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1115&context=grad_research_posters
    They measured oxygen and hydrogen isotope ratios to test the validity of claims made about mineral waters. (San Pellegrino passes the test)
    They don't give ppm numbers, just the difference compared to Standard Mean Ocean Water. SMOW has 155.76 ±0.1 ppm of Deuterium, so from this I infer that San Pellegrino has about 90-100 ppm. (They say -56 in the above link, but the link below says -64)

    More Italian waters were tested in this paper: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0375674212002038
    Best Italian waters:
    Mont Blanc -99 δD (‰) SMOW ( http://www.roxane.fr/en/our-brands/mont-blanc.html )
    SANT'ANNA −94
    LEVISSIMA −84
    Acqua panna is at -53.

    Digging further you can find a lot of testing like this, for instance: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.527.6765&rep=rep1&type=pdf
    Evian -74
    Gerolstein -57

    Anyway my conclusion for now is that widely available mineral waters appear to be fine. You can also search for the isotope composition of tap water near you. But obviously tap water can have fluoride and other stuff added.
     
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  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Sounds real good.
    Now, wonder is somebody studied or observed health of people who drink this type of waters for long time.

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    Similar to observation of restaurant crew in Chicago's exposed to black light for decades being surprisingly healthy.

    ....
     
  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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    JanSz Gold

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  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

  13. Valerie

    Valerie Gold

    Stable isotope ratios of tap water in the contiguous USA.
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  14. Valerie

    Valerie Gold

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  15. Lahelada

    Lahelada New Member

    Don't forget that deuterium is necessary for cell growth. But it must be tightly controlled within the circadian cycle.

    Looking at those |Argentine waters .I am in the wrong part of the country and Patagonia is an excellent place after all.
     
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  16. Brent Patrick

    Brent Patrick Silver

  17. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

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  18. Brent Patrick

    Brent Patrick Silver

    Well penny if the price of San Pellegrino goes through the roof you can all blame me I sent them an email regarding Deuterium levels in their waters o_O
     
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  19. shiran

    shiran Curious

    Brent , the sun pellegrino water you refer to is this :?
    https://www.acquapanna.com/
    Only found sparking sun pellegrino online
    Thanks
     
  20. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

    I think for this we can read the stories of Weston A. Price where he visits people that live high in mountains or/and at higher latitudes. They are sure to drink low deuterium water.

    For clinical data I checked the things Laszlo Boros was talking about
    Cong, F. S. et al. (2010). Deuterium-depleted water inhibits human lung carcinoma cell growth by apoptosis. Exp Ther Med, 1, 277–283.
    Boros, L. G. et al. (2014). Fumarate hydratase and deuterium depletion control oncogenesis via NADPH-dependent reductive synthesis: mitochondrial matrix water, DNA deuteration and epigenetic events. Cancer Res, 74 (19 Suppl.) Abstract nr 1426. doi: 10.1158/1538- 7445.AM2014-1426 (excerpt below)
    Kovács, A. et al. (2011). Deuterium depletion may delay the progression of prostate cancer. J Cancer Ther, 2, 548–556. http:// dx.doi.org/10.4236/jct.2011.24075 (excerpt below)
    Krempels, K. et al. (2008). A retrospective evaluation of the effects of deuterium-depleted water consumption on four patients with brain metastases from lung cancer. Integr Cancer Ther, 7, 172–181. http:// dx.doi.org/10.1177/1534735408322851
     

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