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vit D supplements in autumn/winter

Discussion in 'Biohacking 101' started by Lahelada, May 20, 2014.

  1. Lahelada

    Lahelada New Member

    So I got my Vit D3 finally (longstanding order)
    Does it make sense to supplement now in conj with CT that I step up this time of year and a ketogenic diet in order to get vit D levels up ahead of time or would this be confusing my already confused body more?

    I did not do much sun this summer as it was extraordinarily hot and I burned myself twice. Incidentally those are the places that go most pink now during CT.
  2. Lahelada

    Lahelada New Member

    Reading this the best way would be to step up DHA and water and hit the ground running maybe supplementing when the sun hits the 50 deg altitude level again

    "Copied from the thermodynamics of comfort thread:"

    "This should also point out why Vitamin D levels are tied directly to the electrons turned into photons. Vitamin D is a proxy for energy captured in them.......while the Vitamin A cycle in the brain is generated by the retinal cells that sense the photoperiod of the days length. These two aspects of light must be codified by the brain to make sense of the environment. This is why RXR and VDR are yoked.......it is also why the human retina has more DHA in it than the brain does. When your skin has no DHA or poor water or bad collagen your D levels cave........it also helps explain why human primates lost their hair. We eat sunlight via our skin"
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  3. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Here is the key..........May 2014 webinar talked about what? Optics. What is Vitamin D? A chromophobe in the brain. Where did I say it? OSF 3.

    The reasons for clinical importance..............

    OSF 4.

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  4. Lahelada

    Lahelada New Member

    Thank you. No Vit d now .. .oysters yes.
  5. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    You asked a good question so let me give you a more provocative answer for you to consider the implications: Maintenance of serum calcium levels within a narrow range is vital for normal functioning of the nervous system, as well as for bone growth and maintenance of bone density. Vitamin is in charge of this in the body. The signal goes from your skin through your liver and then into your brain...........When vitamin D is high it means your are resorbing calcium in your gut. Do you really think this is a good idea?

    Why might it be a problem?

    Consider modern diseases and their link to low vitamin D levels...............a pandemic.

    Well today 'emergent" diseases are becoming far more common on Earth because the mechanism giving it to you is also alien to our biology. The environment you live in today, is stealing electrons from these tissues chronically. Carefully consider what I just said..........non native EMF cause calcium release from bound areas in our cells and affect voltage gated channels and NMDA channels.

    We evolved in an native EMF..........so if you now live in a microwave that releases tons of calcium..........What would you expect the body response to be to this situation?

    It would feedback and lower Vitamin D so it would not resorb any more calcium from the gut................

    So what effect would taking exogenous Vitamin D have on this?

    Good or bad?

    If you are following me...........why do I use vitamin D has a marker for zip code?
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  6. Lahelada

    Lahelada New Member

    So what effect would taking exogenous Vitamin D have on this?
    I would be sitting in Buenos Aires on some park bench, half cut reeking of garlic and onion with a half empty bottle of wine in hand, two halves of an empty oyster shell to boot telling everyone who did and did not need to know that you were all wrong about them Ca channel blocker thingies like quercetin. That razzaveratrol ish quite nice but you know. it did not help me one bit ,that I am in fact worse . On top of it all I did eat an oyster and it still did not work . ...:p

    Put more seriously . I would have put any EMF mitigation in jeopardy at best and made my problem worse no matter the time of year. as I would have been xounteracting the protective measure of lowering Vit D that my body had implemented . Inflammation ..Cancer ..
    The devil is in the details ... No more tinkering without more thought. If you can make it dont take it .if you dont make it there just might be a reason....

    Vitamin D being low therefore is not the problem but the body´s protective response when faced with non native EMF so low values indicate that. Trad response of getting vit D levels up to increase immunity ,balance hormone levels and what not result in failure if the surroundings dont change.
    Low Vit D bad zip code .
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  7. nonchalant

    nonchalant Silver

    Stunned silence. The body does know what it is doing. And it is doing its absolute best, given the circumstances.
  8. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    For me -- this year - lots of beach time and outside generally - walking etc .....I was stunned to see my Vit D was down by a lot. The sun was much stronger this year - burning my skin ....and high EMF ....I don't stand much of a chance here.
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  9. Australia really worries me.
    I am so sick of seeing all these patients whos GPs have put them on so many meds. its like putting out spot fires in the midst of a nuclear fallout...
  10. best case in point re: this thread

    woman with parathyroid cancer, v v low D
    GP and specialist agree to put her on 3500i/u of vitamin D a day

    labs getting worse, lethargy getting worse, neurological symptoms showing up everywhere...

    it is classic EMF
  11. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I wish I could show you my hands and arms right now ....too much computer time.

    Are you making any headway Josh - with patients like that?
  12. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    I want to teach you.......The more detail we get the more you see Lady evolutions quantum counterintuitiveness and inside her tool box. OSF 4 and 5 go into deeper detail...........I am going to show you exactly why neuro degeneration and autoimmunity are not what you think they are right now..........and the mechanism is in OSF 3.
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  13. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    But now you understand why. YOu cant get people better until you understand.
  14. Inger

    Inger Silver

    I LOVE the complexity on this site. ^^^^^ It is what keeps me returning all the time.
    It is so... sensual? Maybe it is quantum magic? It tickles my brain.....!!?

    It makes every other forum / blog way too boring........ so I practically only read here
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  15. Inger

    Inger Silver

    sometimes a glass of good wine makes one more receptive to the quantum magic... like when you meet your lover and have a glass of wine - we all know this story

    ... it is like, somehow, sometimes, our brain stays in our way??
  16. nonchalant

    nonchalant Silver

    Audrey, what do they look like? Rash?
  17. Inger

    Inger Silver

    post a pic Audrey, please. Crazy, your body is desperately trying to tell you something

    we all need to love our bodies even more, to listen to it! Man, it tries so much to survive and serve as best as it can....:(
    and we, we mostly just ignore it. How sad actually.
  18. Josh

    Josh Gold

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    I have understood why since i started reading all this stuff. The problem is fighting the status quo in medicine and helping the patient overcome their reliance on the archaic model.
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  20. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    Ok Jack - I'm following. Vitamin D drop in winter is a protective mechanism when bathing in Non-Native EMFs. So now I have a question - why is supplementation and high levels protective for some people and not for others? (I'm thinking back to a discussion you and I had about me functioning better within a higher range of Vit D than most ppl) Yet if Vitamin D drops is supposed to drop in winter but doesn't b/c of supplementation, the body would exercise another method of blocking calcium from entering the cells - such as increasing estrogen - correct?

    want to make sure I'm on track here following..... so if you're in summer hand have access to massive IR via sunlight - that expands the EZ you're more efficient with Vit D. But in winter with Vit D low, you need cold, NDAPH+ to activate the PPP so you can continue efficiency at the cellular level....
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