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VAP/ NMR test in Australia. Where/Who. Help please :)

Discussion in 'Optimal Labs' started by lauren_r, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. lauren_r

    lauren_r New Member

    I am looking to get a VAP or NMR test.  I have googled and have not been able to find where to get them done or any websites from Australia with info about it.

    Can they be done by a general Dr?

    Or does it have to be done by a functional pathology company like Healthscope (they don't do it).

    I am in Melbourne Australia.

    Thanks for any tips!
  2. Coriander

    Coriander Silver

    I haven't been able to find one either, and I have been to 3 doctors who don't have a clue what the test is, or why you'd want it. One doctor 'looked into it' and reported back that you can't do the test in Australia. Of course, that could be wrong too.
  3. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Can you not get it from the U.S.? I have had luck with ZRT - sorry I don't know what those tests are - but if you email labs in the states?
  4. lauren_r

    lauren_r New Member

    Hmm that's not great.  I sent you a PM, as I am in Melb too.

    Will a normal blood test of HDL, LDL, TRI's be of any use?  

    Is there another test that Healthscope etc provide that is of equal use?

    I was doing it for Leaky Gut, although I do already have a stool test (CDSA-4) that showed off the chart dysbiosis, would that be enough?

    Thanks again.
  5. ashryn

    ashryn New Member

    You can get the vap elements done here mostly, but the pathologist I went to said I might get a bill for the apolipoprotein part of it
    i suspect there is someone who does a full lipid profile here, but they have a different name for it..

    i there's what to get your dr to order:

    Total VLDL: Elevated VLDL levels correspond to an increased risk of heart disease and diabetes.

    Sum Total Cholesterol: The sum of HDL, LDL and VLDL levels.

    Total non-HDL: The sum of only LDL and VLDL levels; a higher value indicates a greater risk for developing heart disease.

    Total apoB100: Apolipoprotein B100 helps create, carry and deliver "bad cholesterol" to cells; measuring apoB100 levels aids in determining the type and/or cause of high cholesterol.

    Lp(a) cholesterol: Research suggests that Lp(a), which is similar to LDL, is an inherited risk factor for atherosclerosis.

    IDL: A lipoprotein of intermediate density; according to Atherotech, this number is elevated among individuals with a family history of diabetes.

    LDL-RC: LDL that is bound to C-reactive protein; this type of LDL is found at the site of atherosclerotic plaques in the body, which are one of the key features of artery disease and -- when they rupture -- the primary initiator of heart attacks.

    Sum Total LDL-C: The sum of Lp(a), IDL and LDL.

    LDL Size Pattern: Reported as one of three categories -- A, A/B or B. In pattern A, the LDL molecules are larger and less dense, making them easier for the body to remove. In pattern A/B, there is a combination of light and dense molecules. In pattern B, smaller, high-density molecules predominate. According to Atherotech, patients with small, dense LDL particles (pattern B) have a four-fold greater risk of developing heart disease than patients with LDL size pattern A.

    HDL-2: A subclass of "good cholesterol" that is particularly protective against heart disease. A low number here could mean an increased risk of coronary artery disease, even in those with otherwise normal cholesterol levels.

    HDL-3: Another subclass of HDL, which does not protect against coronary artery disease to the same degree as HDL-2.

    VLDL-3: A triglyceride-rich very low-density lipoprotein; some studies suggest a potential correlation between higher VLDL-3 numbers and the development of diabetes.

    In addition, the VAP test provides individuals with a better idea of their vulnerability to the metabolic syndrome, a combination of factors that significantly elevate the risk an individual will develop diabetes or cardiovascular disease.

    Interpret results http://www.livestrong.com/article/38446-interpret-vap-cholesterol-profile/

    hope this helps someone..
  6. mouk

    mouk New Member

    Advanced lipid testing ( NMR, VAP , ..) remains a continental US based technology.

    The samples have to be managed ( clotting and centrifugation) by a local lab before reaching the lab settings in 24 hours on ice but not frozen.

    VAP specimen collection - Atherotech

    NMR - Liposcience
    Preparation and shipment
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2013
  7. Rayken

    Rayken New Member

    Hi All ,
    I just found this forum today,
    You can get a VAP blood test from www,atherotech.com. and get all the history on VAP & LP(a)
    From, Patented Cure For Heart Disease, By David H Leake. & Practicing Medicine Without a License,
    By Owen Fonorow, these books also have information on lots of good website
  8. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

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