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Vanity and face wrinkles!

Discussion in 'The Cave' started by jeanie@truelongmont.com, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. drezy

    drezy New Member

    I think you have to look deeper into studies like those and sort out so many factors. Also understand what has to happen in skin cells prior to being damaged. I don't think the "quickened" will be as fast as some might think. There are many factors involved.

    From: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2290997/
    "Alpha melanocyte-stimulating hormone (α-MSH). Upon exposure to sunshine, melanocytes and keratinocytes in the skin release α-MSH, which has been implicated in immunologic tolerance and suppression of contact hypersensitivity. α-MSH also helps limit oxidative DNA damage resulting from UVR and increases gene repair, thus reducing melanoma risk, as reported 15 May 2005 in Cancer Research."
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  2. Penny

    Penny New Member

    Yeah - I've been told I have a very young looking face - like 20 years younger than I should - I just tell them I am tall and my neck looks my age:) I think it's where the screen hits you really... :)
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  3. Saichi

    Saichi New Member

    Sunlight wouldn't be the culprit here. Circadian regularity destroyed, artificial light in the cabin (now with LED blue flicker), toxic emf soup (now with strong wifi).
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  4. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Since I comment on this subject I've put myself through the "wringer" of solar exposure for the last two years.

    There is a part of me that just wants to know versus tiptoeing around "optimal" health. Honestly, either way I still end up dead in the end. ince I think you haveJapanese roots maybe you get that I think there is something to be said for honor and it is a little dishonorable to cling desperately to a concept known as optimal when there is more to be learned and experienced.

    What I thought would be a "risky" experiment in the sun payed dividends.
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  5. Saichi

    Saichi New Member

    I don't know how you handle all that sun. If I had your exposure I'd feel too good and disgusted with my own health and happiness.
  6. drezy

    drezy New Member

    I don't completely know either at this point.

    The feeling becomes more purpose driven.

    The sense of purpose becomes clearer and clearer.
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  7. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    With what little we definitely know now about aging, it is not certain about all factors that are in play with photo aging, given an individual's lifestyle and health practices. That is why I say only time will tell about outcomes from Black Swan's propensity to high levels of UV/sunlight exposure.

    If we are doing things right with Dr Kruse's optimal health strategies most us would have potential to live a long time-- far longer than modern average lifespan. Whether we would relish living to a healthy 100 years but wrinkled as a prune is up to the individual.

    The game changer is if a complete skin renewal/rejuvenating method were invented, possibly with stem cells. Not sure I would want to be the first guinea pig going there, however.

    What if that process went terribly awry, and I ended up looking like this below picture. Would women still hit on me?

    Last edited: Jan 18, 2020
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  8. drezy

    drezy New Member

    On the contrary, you'd be a magnet...
  9. Inger

    Inger Silver

    true! Women LOVE babies :) :) :)

    (It never bothered me if my partner had wrinkles though...lol)
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  10. drezy

    drezy New Member

    If I had to write a playbook for younger single men it might be a one pager:
    1. Babysit a friend's cute baby for an hour
    2. Time it to be near by and at the end of a hot yoga session in a younger part of a town
    3. Write a nice thank you letter to me after you get to come back up for air
  11. Inger

    Inger Silver

    ..:rofl:...:rofl:....... awesome Drezy, I love it :D
  12. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    It is funny .....I love wrinkles in other people - male and female. But - I don't like mine!

    To me it is a sign of a life well lived and fully engaged .....sort of been there done that .... and now what's next!

    Do you know .....when you lay down you don't have wrinkles!

    So - I guess, for one reason or another ......on your back is best!
  13. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    There is one part of the female physiology that can be very wrinkled, and I don't mind it at all. In fact, I love it.
  14. Inger

    Inger Silver

    hmmmm.. you must mean the neck..? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: o_O :D
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  15. drezy

    drezy New Member

    It's probably pruny fingers (like too much time in the tub). There seems to be a fetish for anything these days...
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  16. I will quote my dad (Diabetic, skin cancer, obese all his life) "Your grandmother (Zelda) had alabaster skin when she died and she never went outside."

    Me thinking in my head..... yes, dad but she had breast cancer in her 40's (which didn't kill her) and she died of Alzheimers Disease. She couldn't remember who you were and who she was. I'll take the wrinkles and remember to wipe my own butt before I die././.././././././.
  17. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

  18. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    You are assuming a lot-- like sunlight deficiency caused her cancer and neurodegenerative disease. Many other life style and environmental factors could be involved as well.

    I like anecdotal examples, but unless we get at the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, then absolute cause and effect is difficult to obtain.

    Sigh--- I wish understanding life were simple. But then again, contradictions, mysteries, unpredictability, and uncertainty make our otherwise mundane lives interesting, no?
  19. Inger

    Inger Silver

    well to be honest, @ElectricUniverse,
    evidence is pretty clear that you can be very healthy even if you are wrinkly..lol
    and that many very sick people can have alabaster-wrinkly free skin ;) :)

    That said I am very sure that when eating and living like we naturally are meant to do, will help skin staying healthy and vibrant, and reduce wrinkles that comes from poison like smoking, drinking, blue light, sugar.. etc :)
    I still am going to make friends with my wrinkles though, and honor them, appreciate them, love them.... I have worked hard for each one of them, man! :mmpft:
    and if a man cannot love me because of my wrinkles... thank you I do not need such a superficial man :rolleyes: :D
    imagine I would be in an accident and lose my legs or get demolished face.. if he would love only my outer look, he would sure leave me by then.
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  20. DYING :D:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::D:D

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