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Vaccines. How bad. Why?

Discussion in 'Feedback/Suggestions' started by Mike David, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. Mike David

    Mike David Same name new person

    Dr. Kruse says : In my opinion, this link best explains why we are seeing record increases in autism and spectrum disorders today. I don’t believe that vaccines are the major issue in spectrum disorders as some do. I believe hormone changes in the mother prenatally are to blame.end quote

    that sounds very reasonable and true.
    What are the potential downsides in shorter time frames and longer?
    Is it just a matter of having reduced inflammation and cortisol linked to clearing out toxins?
    What is Mother Nature really saying here?
    I am of the firm understanding that this practice is obsolete and mainly harmful.
  2. Michael CULLEN

    Michael CULLEN New Member

    Vaccines are desinged to kill and maim. There is reason for them to exist other than to harm. There are no external viruses to vaccinate against. All a con.
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2021 at 8:52 AM
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  3. Katie Durham

    Katie Durham New Member

    Work that Peter Abby did in Africa and Paul Thomas recently did in Oregon is very clear that when comparing vaccinated to nonvaccinated children, while nonvaccinated children may be more likely to contract the disease the vaccine was (which means that vaccination does work at least sometimes, the vaccinated children are overwhelmingly more likely to have any number of chronic diseases and higher mortality. For his trouble, Thomas immediately lost his license.

    Groundbreaking study shows unvaccinated children are healthier than vaccinated children | Opinion | LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)

    As far as the mRNA "vaccines", they aren't vaccines. They're treatments (for which there are safer and more effective options like ivermectin/Vitamin D). Interesting blog series by Peter Doshi, associate editor of BMJ showing that Modern and Pfizer have misrepresented their data:

    Peter Doshi: Pfizer and Moderna’s “95% effective” vaccines—we need more details and the raw data - The BMJ
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  4. Chantelle

    Chantelle Silver

    I'm very curious. I was under the impression that the work done 'discovering Polio' was really bad science. Any thoughts?
  5. Dan2

    Dan2 New Member

    Vaccines, Autoimmunity, and the Changing Nature of Childhood Illness by Thomas Cowan 2018

    Vaccine Epidemic by Louise Kuo Habakus and Mary Holland 2011

    Dissolving Illusions - Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History by Suzanne Humphries

    Miller's Review of Critical Vaccine Studies - 400 Important Scientific Papers Summarized for Parents and Researchers by Neil Miller 2016


    The Story of the Salk Anti-Poliomyelitis Vaccine 1956

    The Salk Anti-Poliomyelitis Vaccine 1961

    Report on Poliomyelitis Vaccine Produced by the Cutter Laboratories -- U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare Public Health Service 1955

    Connection of Poliomyelitis with Inoculation 1952

    Poliomyelitis Vaccine by Lily Loat 1956

    more documents from 1869-1972
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2021 at 4:27 AM
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  6. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    My question is: what’s worse? The cytokine storm of the vaccine or actually getting the virus?

    most people have low vitamin D, low DHA, low zinc, low Vit C, live in a blue lit microwave world. Is the protection better than getting the virus if any?

    @Penny has posted some great links to the cytokine storm associated with the vaccine.
  7. Katie Durham

    Katie Durham New Member

    Why limit yourself to those two choices when there are such effective treatments available? (No, I'm not discounting sun, D, etc., but our friends aren't going to do that.)
    FLCCC-I-MASK-Protocol-v7-2020-12-27-ENGLISH.pdf (covid19criticalcare.com)

    Besides the Moderna/Pfizer vaccines aren't effective, and they aren't safe either. Moderna and Pfizer lied to us.
    Peter Doshi: Pfizer and Moderna’s “95% effective” vaccines—we need more details and the raw data - The BMJ
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  8. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    Besides the Moderna/Pfizer vaccines aren't effective, and they aren't safe either. Moderna and Pfizer lied to us.
    Peter Doshi: Pfizer and Moderna’s “95% effective” vaccines—we need more details and the raw data - The BMJ[/QUOTE]
    Great point. I’m thinking about my grandparents as I type this. My paternal grandmother is 85 and lives in Mass. My dad wants her to get the vaccine and I’m of course nervous of the cytokine storm. She has a history of lung issues. Hard to advise an 85 year old traditionalist to avoid the vaccine and then take supplements if she gets it. She hasn’t really seen anyone since March.

    Then my maternal grandparents (78&80) take C and D but live in sunny Fla. They also want the vaccine. I’ve explained the issues/safety/efficacy with the Moderna and Pfizer trials but hard to convince!

    thanks for those great references!
  9. Mike David

    Mike David Same name new person

    Great info. Here. Thanks. I was looking into the metal toxicity and possibly using choline and iodine. Not that I’m getting one. someone I know might though.
  10. Dan2

    Dan2 New Member

    Last edited: Jan 11, 2021 at 9:00 PM
  11. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

  12. Katie Durham

    Katie Durham New Member

    Ivermectin knocks down the viral load so much that it would be very hard to transmit C19 to someone else. So any people who are frequently in contact with your grandparents, or if one grandparent agreed to (and has no drug interactions), could protect the other by taking ivermectin prophylactically. In a multi generational household, the middle generation could help protect the very young and very old in that home by taking ivermectin prophylactically.
  13. Michael CULLEN

    Michael CULLEN New Member

    There is no virus.

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