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Vaccine resources..........

Discussion in 'Optimal Kids' started by Jack Kruse, Jan 31, 2021.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    U.S. Federal Government Doesn’t Possess the Data to Calculate Transmissibility & Thus No Vaccination Target Can Foretell ‘Herd Immunity

    The 70% vaccination target is arbitrary, not based on actual data and biostatistical calculations concerning what % vaccine acceptance will be required to reach herd immunity. How do I know that? Because clinical trials have not been done to determine the effects of vaccination on virus transmission from infected to uninfected people. So the calculations cannot be performed for each of these vaccines.

    It is very possible that one or more of these vaccines can be used to reduce virus transmission in a group to what would be called "herd immunity". These vaccines do work to reduce disease, and probably to reduce transmission of the virus. But would that require 30% of people to accept the vaccine, or 50%, or 70% or 90%? Unknown, because we do not have the data. So, if you hear a government official tell you that herd immunity can be reached if we have 70% vaccination, you can conclude that person does not know what they are talking about, or they are substituting someone's "expert" opinion for actual facts.

    Generally speaking, we call that "fake news".

    Why don't we have the data? Because the FDA did not require the vaccine developers to produce the data. They could have, but they just focused on disease - whether the vaccines would keep you out of the hospital or keep you from dying. Not virus transmission. Just like the FDA did not require the vaccine developers to gather rigorous safety data during this EUA period. This is why we have all these questions about vaccine safety that cannot be answered - no good databases, and no good data. So we have to depend on Israel, Norway, Scandanavian countries, etc. to gather the data.

    The problem here is the FDA not doing its job well. Not having the courage to make the hard calls.

  2. Jacks

    Jacks Gold

    67% j@bbed in my town and the cases are starting to rise (slowly!). Could be the students coming back or something else....
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    Jack Kruse Administrator

  4. mrc

    mrc Silver

  5. ND Hauf

    ND Hauf Pleb

    What is up with these Dots when connected...….?

    Dec. 12, 2019......Daszak……. Baric...Shi Zhengli, Ph.D......Moderna……...Univ. NC@Chapel Hill...…. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)……..Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) = COVID19
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  6. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    You don't want soldiers in the military who know too much or think too much.
    Politicians do not want the public to know too much or think too much either. If you did, you would be hard to control.
    Can you conceive that the people who dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a machine? They had a heart, just like you. They had spouses and children, an old mother and father. They were as much a human being as you are—with a difference. They were trained to follow orders without question, and when the order was given, they simply followed it.
    Do you follow orders well? Who is telling you what to do right now?
    This is surely the main problem of the twenty-first century: is it permissible merely to carry out orders and commit one's conscience to someone else's keeping? Can a person do without ideas of their own about good and evil, and merely derive them from the printed instructions and verbal orders of his superiors, politicians, or physicians? Oaths! Those solemn pledges pronounced with a tremor in the voice and intended to defend people against "the evildoers": see how easily they can be misdirected to the service of the evildoers and against the people! Read the thread carefully below.
    By portraying following orders as an opportunity for virtuous acts, the military can romanticize the evil in medical tyranny. How obedient will you choose to be when your turn to decide arrives? https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1413705439901069314.html
  7. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    The conundrum of being a doctor in a manufactured situation: If a Doctor fails to recommend the vaccine, and the patient suffers harm, the Doc can be sued into oblivion. BUT if a Doctor recommends the vaccine, and the patient suffers harm, he is completely immune from suit. What do you think most Doctors will do if they are employed by a healthcare system?
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    Jack Kruse Administrator

  9. Jacks

    Jacks Gold

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    Jack Kruse Administrator

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  11. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    Totally a reset coming. All I can say we are much closer to the end times. I am waiting patiently for my Lord Jesus Christ to take me up with Him (The Rapture) Amen
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  12. https://biblia.com/bible/niv/Rev 19.11-21
  13. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    Exactly. The Rapture is suppose to happen pretribulation. If you want to listen to an awesome preacher, verse by verse Bible truth, Pastor Jack Hibbs. One below or Google his name on YouTube.

  14. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    This is Pastor Jack and his friend. They discuss current events according to the Bible. This on was a few weeks ago.

  15. Many people believe strongly "the rapture" is shown in Revelation 4:1-2 where the catching up of John represents the future catching up of the Church.

    I find it interesting that each "generation" over the last 2,000+ years have believed they were in "the end times". Each had their "good reasoning" for it; but it physically did occur as thought.

    The only thing (or idea) I allow to galvanize in me is my love and hope for the best for others. It is my goal to learn to love God with all my heart and to show it by how I interact with others. Every other idea is fluid.

    We are designed interdependent to and with each other. When I look into the "heavens", I see a connected Universe. Nature has shown us how vulnerable we are. We have the capacity to destroy civilizations and wipe out their memories, making them mere myths of forgotten legend.

    What does it means that not one smallest letter, nor the least stroke of a pen will be removed from God's words? If we are willing hearers, many we practice with all our strength. Our hope is others will see and turn to the mercy God offers.
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  16. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    Yes. Being born again. This is an excellent sermon that he explains being born again and following Jesus Christ and preach the Gospel to save lives. Receiving the Holy Spirit.

  17. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    The idea is great.
    People are weak.
    Many examples

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  18. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    Yes. That is legalized religion. Pastor Jack explains it in the sermons I posted. Here is some more info.

    We believe that all humanity is lost and born with a sinful nature, and can only be saved by a personal faith in the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, and not by any human merit or performance. (John 3:16-19, John 5:24, Romans 3:10, Romans 3:23, Romans 5:8-9, Ephesians 2:8-10, Titus 3:5)

    Baptism Of The Holy Spirit

    To do God's work, we need God's power. Jesus told His disciples, "But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you..." (Acts 1:8).

    The baptism of the Holy Spirit is for all who believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord, and who are children of God through Him (Acts 2:38-39).

    The baptism of the Holy Spirit occurs when the Spirit of God comes upon a believer. The Holy Spirit fills the believer’s mind with genuine understanding of truth, takes possession of the believer’s abilities, and imparts gifts that qualify the believer for service in the body of Christ.

    The Holy Spirit also speaks to the hearts of unbelievers, showing them their need for salvation (John 16:7-11). When a person accepts Jesus Christ as personal Savior and Lord, the Holy Spirit dwells inside him or her (John 14:15-17; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 12:13). But believers also need the baptism of the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:5-8).

    The purpose of the baptism of the Holy Spirit empowers believers for service, witness, spiritual warfare, and boldness in their testimonies (Acts 1:8, 4:19-20, 29-31; 6:8-10; 1 Corinthians 2:4).

    Jesus commanded the disciples not to begin the work to which He had called them until they were baptized in the Holy Spirit (Luke 24:48-49; Acts 1:4,8). When the apostles met believers in Christ, they at once asked whether the believers had received the Holy Spirit. If not, they made sure the believers received Him (Acts 8:14-16; 19:1-5). The baptism of the Holy Spirit is an absolute necessity in every Christian’s life for the service to which God has called us.

    Jesus said, “If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!” (Luke 11:13). God fulfills His promises in a variety of ways, and no two human beings are alike in how they receive spiritual things.

    The New Testament tells us that some believers received the baptism of the Holy Spirit at the moment of their conversion, such as Cornelius and his family (Acts 10). Others, such as the believers in Ephesus, received it at a later time (Acts 19:1-5). We should never limit God by our own expectations. He is sovereign and will work in whatever way He chooses.

  19. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    The baptism of the Holy Spirit isn't water baptism, that comes after if at all. Remember the thief on the cross.

    Sorry for invading this thread with a different topic. I understand if my threads gets deleted. Thank you and God Bless You.
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  20. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    You are good God-fearing girl.
    God bless you.

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