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Vaccine resources..........

Discussion in 'Optimal Kids' started by Jack Kruse, Jan 31, 2021.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    U.S. Federal Government Doesn’t Possess the Data to Calculate Transmissibility & Thus No Vaccination Target Can Foretell ‘Herd Immunity

    The 70% vaccination target is arbitrary, not based on actual data and biostatistical calculations concerning what % vaccine acceptance will be required to reach herd immunity. How do I know that? Because clinical trials have not been done to determine the effects of vaccination on virus transmission from infected to uninfected people. So the calculations cannot be performed for each of these vaccines.

    It is very possible that one or more of these vaccines can be used to reduce virus transmission in a group to what would be called "herd immunity". These vaccines do work to reduce disease, and probably to reduce transmission of the virus. But would that require 30% of people to accept the vaccine, or 50%, or 70% or 90%? Unknown, because we do not have the data. So, if you hear a government official tell you that herd immunity can be reached if we have 70% vaccination, you can conclude that person does not know what they are talking about, or they are substituting someone's "expert" opinion for actual facts.

    Generally speaking, we call that "fake news".

    Why don't we have the data? Because the FDA did not require the vaccine developers to produce the data. They could have, but they just focused on disease - whether the vaccines would keep you out of the hospital or keep you from dying. Not virus transmission. Just like the FDA did not require the vaccine developers to gather rigorous safety data during this EUA period. This is why we have all these questions about vaccine safety that cannot be answered - no good databases, and no good data. So we have to depend on Israel, Norway, Scandanavian countries, etc. to gather the data.

    The problem here is the FDA not doing its job well. Not having the courage to make the hard calls.

  2. Jacks

    Jacks Gold

    67% j@bbed in my town and the cases are starting to rise (slowly!). Could be the students coming back or something else....
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  4. mrc

    mrc Silver

  5. ND Hauf

    ND Hauf Pleb

    What is up with these Dots when connected...….?

    Dec. 12, 2019......Daszak……. Baric...Shi Zhengli, Ph.D......Moderna……...Univ. NC@Chapel Hill...…. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)……..Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) = COVID19
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  6. I saw that this morning also. Crazy.
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  7. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    You don't want soldiers in the military who know too much or think too much.
    Politicians do not want the public to know too much or think too much either. If you did, you would be hard to control.
    Can you conceive that the people who dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a machine? They had a heart, just like you. They had spouses and children, an old mother and father. They were as much a human being as you are—with a difference. They were trained to follow orders without question, and when the order was given, they simply followed it.
    Do you follow orders well? Who is telling you what to do right now?
    This is surely the main problem of the twenty-first century: is it permissible merely to carry out orders and commit one's conscience to someone else's keeping? Can a person do without ideas of their own about good and evil, and merely derive them from the printed instructions and verbal orders of his superiors, politicians, or physicians? Oaths! Those solemn pledges pronounced with a tremor in the voice and intended to defend people against "the evildoers": see how easily they can be misdirected to the service of the evildoers and against the people! Read the thread carefully below.
    By portraying following orders as an opportunity for virtuous acts, the military can romanticize the evil in medical tyranny. How obedient will you choose to be when your turn to decide arrives? https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1413705439901069314.html
  8. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    The conundrum of being a doctor in a manufactured situation: If a Doctor fails to recommend the vaccine, and the patient suffers harm, the Doc can be sued into oblivion. BUT if a Doctor recommends the vaccine, and the patient suffers harm, he is completely immune from suit. What do you think most Doctors will do if they are employed by a healthcare system?
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