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Understanding Black Light

Discussion in 'The New Monster Thread' started by Jason Prall, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. seanb4

    seanb4 New Member

    Just the CFL's really, 100mG close up, drops to background AC 1.5mG around 60cm away.

    The solar glo and my infrared reptile light are only higher than background really close up, 5-10cm away from the bulb and you really shouldn't be that close anyway.

    As for the UV B lights could you not use 2 to decrease the total time to 1 hour?
     
  2. lilreddgirl

    lilreddgirl New Member

    Thank you so much for answering that !! That's great to know about the Solar Glo being different in that respect..

    The UVB lights however are CFL's but they are not blacklights... 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    so if all CFL test high close up and not just blacklights, that would be an issue..

    If it turns out its only a blacklights issue, then that's a great idea to use 2 (or more) ! I'm not sure if it would really work out that 2 = 1/2 time but it's plausible and it would certainly decrease time by Some amount...
     
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  3. DLO

    DLO StarFish

    How about both at the same time? Unless 410nm is out of the proper range
    https://www.amazon.com/RubyLux-Red-...0_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=36W9NXFVC3A60ZJQTRD6
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2016
  4. Calum

    Calum New Member

    what wattage does jk use?
     
  5. Penny

    Penny New Member

    the ones from Batteries and bulbs wattage...
     
  6. Calum

    Calum New Member

    that link doesn't work
    The problem is that link doesn't work and I couldn't get this website to work for me now and some time ago..... That is why I ask for the wattage. I have a 25, 30 and 40 watt florescent black light
     
  7. Penny

    Penny New Member

  8. Calum

    Calum New Member

    For the link I get:
    This site can’t be reached
    www.batteriesplus.com took too long to respond.

    Try:

    ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

    It look like my black light might be too powerful. Maybe they are okay at a distance....... I don't know.
     
  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    If used as a conversation piece or to find if cat peed in the corner, yes.
    As a source of vit D or A no.
    -----------------------------------
    This lamp have UVa & UVb
    Sperti Fiji SUN Table Top Tanning Lamp
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ID8P78/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    --------------------------------------
    Artificial lighting management for a human locked in small room.

    https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/pg-e2-ratio.6427/page-4#post-201738

    Sperti Fiji SUN Table Top Tanning Lamp
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ID8P78/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    ====================
     
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  10. Thanks JanSz

    I get plenty from lying in the sun for hours and hours all weekend. I don't spend much time indoors when I'm at home.

    This is more a luxury addition to my home... just to change the blue LEDs to a better alternative light source... so that I don't have to run away from the living room when my friends are in there with the light on, and also to help my friends and girlfriend and even my family to bathe in better lighting conditions.

    I emailed a major supplier in the UK (internationallamps.co.uk) with some of the lights discussed on this forum, I got this response.
    1. https://internationallamps.co.uk/product/blacklight-13w-uv-368nm-e27-cfl-flyzap-lamp/
    2. https://internationallamps.co.uk/product/osramvitalux-radium-sanolux-300watt-lamp-230v/
    3. https://internationallamps.co.uk/product/philips-r95-infrared-100w-es-red-lamp/
    I think I'm going to buy number 2 (£30), the one advised by Alexander Wunsch = Osram Vitalux.

    I already have an Infraphil Lamp, similar number 3, but I'm going to buy number 3 (£13.71) so I can have them hanging up in the living room and kitchen areas.

    The one I'm unsure about is number 1, the CFL 13W UV 368nm Black light, as it was mentioned earlier that CFL's emit x-ray radiation.
    • Shall I buy this product and accept the trade-off?
    • Is there a better alternative in the UK that anyone knows of (UK MEMBERS ALERT)?
    • Can I mitigate the X-Rays by any means?
    • Or shall I try to order the LED Black light Lohd and Jason posted earlier, from the US and import to UK?
    Thanks
     
  11. Benny Hammond

    Benny Hammond New Member

    I remember reading in Ott's book about the Chicago restaurant that used black lights and how good people felt there and no one called in any sick days. I always wondered how that could be if they were using the black lights at night. I was under the impression that UV lights were only meant to be used between sunrise and sunset.
     
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  12. Would still be better than the Cool White Fluorescents...
     
  13. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

    Probably a mix of factors, one being that most people get way too little UV light and any supplementation would make them feel better, even if it was at night.
    Another factor is that it's mostly the blue light spectrum that harms circadian rhythms, and blacklights don't have much of it.
     
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  14. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Exercise makes a mitochondrion release heat or red light. We don't have spectral charts on mitochondrial haplotypes and what they do to water in cells made by mitochondria. This is critical data in aquaphotomics. In fact, most red light therapy devices don’t publish their output intensity, which makes it nearly impossible to determine how much energy is being delivered to the treatment area. This is key to understanding is water energized to being a mirror, and engine, or a battery in tissue. #redlightfacts

    Many blacklights do have a lot of 400-460 blue.......use a spectroscope to make the right choice.
     
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  15. shiran

    shiran Curious

    @Jack Kruse looking for a spectroscope
    Appreciate a recommendation thanks
     
  16. crbonar

    crbonar New Member

  17. Butters

    Butters New Member

    When white areas fluorescent blue under blacklight at night, can this disrupt melatonin cycle?
     
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  18. crbonar

    crbonar New Member

    Sorry, I do not know
     

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