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Tweaks to Dutch hormone test results

Discussion in 'Optimal Labs' started by DLO, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. DLO

    DLO StarFish

    Just got my results back and was curious what I can do to boost the things i'm low in:
    Androsterone 510 Ideal Range 640-3000
    Estrogen Metabolism 2-OH 84.8%, 4-OH10.3%, 16-OH 4.8%
    Ideal Range 2-OH, 70% 4-OH, 10%, 16-OH 20%
    DHEA production is 1706 Ideal range is 1000-5500 I'd really like to increase this one as well
    24 hr free cortisol ABDC 237 Ideal Range 100-250 Does IF without eating in the morning make this high?
    Took this test before doing CT, Upping my seafood/water intake, blueblockers, sun gazing,grounding
    Just found out my haplotype maternal is B4b1
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2017
  2. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Post the DUTCH PDF file with test results.


    Last edited: Oct 2, 2016
  3. DLO

    DLO StarFish

  4. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    You have low estrogens produced with assistance of aromatase,
    5alphaDHT produced with assistance of 5A-reductase.
    This effects may happen if someone uses
    aromatase inhibitors
    5Ar inhibitors

    I assume that you are natural, and are not using medicines that inhibits aromatase and 5Ar
    you may do that inadvertently.

    Eventually, only Androsterone is low (affected by 5Ar inhibition), but 5a-DHT is ok
    so much less overall worry about 5Ar inhibitors.

    But you have to watch out your diet for Aromatase inhibitors.
    I suggest that you do
    Fatty Acid Profile, Comprehensive (C8-C26), Serum
    You have to watch out for excess of omega3,
    everything is good when in the right dose.
    Dose makes poison.
    Post results of your Fatty acids analysis, I will make a spreadsheet for you.
    similar to this (hopefully not as excessive)
    For example hair products contain 5Ar inhibitors.
    propecia, proscar, avodart

    Google up, there is a long list of herbal/natural 5Ar inhibitors.
    black pepper
    green tea

    Similarly with AI
    oriental, Chinese, Korean preparations
    edible fungus
    coffees, alcohol

    Natural Products as Aromatase Inhibitors

    Anti-estrogenic foods and herbs:
    1. Cruciferous veggies: Cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower Brussel sprouts and cabbage contain several powerful nutrients that detoxify bad estrogenic molecules. These nutrients include Indole-3 Acetate, Indole-3 Carbonyl and Diindolylmethane. These cruciferous veggies also contain sulfur containing nutrients such as Sulfuraphane and Phenyl Isothiocyanates that enhance liver detoxification processes and destroy cancer cell formation.

    2. Healthy fat-rich foods: These are foods that are rich in saturated and omega-3 fatty acids. It includes plant based fats such as coconut oil, extra virgin olive oil and avocados. Raw nuts (other than peanuts) and seeds contain anti-estrogenic plant sterols. Organic poultry, wild-caught salmon, wild game and 100% grass-fed beef are great for healthy hormone function.

    3. Alium family: The aliums include garlic, onions, scallions, chives and leeks. These are all rich in sulfur-containing amino acids and the powerful flavone anti-oxidant quercetin that both help the liver detoxify at a higher level and reduce the production of estrogen.

    4. Flavone rich herbs: Dietary flavones and flavonones have been demonstrated to be the most potent aromatase-inhibitory flavonoids. The most powerful flavones include chrysin which is found in passionflower and apignine which is found in chamomile. Several brands of herbal tea can be purchased that feature both organic passionflower and chamomile. These teas are typically marketed for healthy sleep but they are also powerful anti-estrogenic activity.

    5. Flavonones: These are found in citrus fruits and in particular lemons and limes. They are classically called citrus bioflavonoids and they include diosmin, hesperidin, rutin, naringin, tangeretin, diosmetin, narirutin, neohesperidin, nobiletin and quercetin.

    6. Antioxidant-rich herbs: Herbs such as oregano, thyme, rosemary, sage and turmeric are loaded with volatile oils that promote liver detoxification. Turmeric has a potent ability to destroy estrogen receptor positive cancer cells which are the most commonly found cells in breast, uterine, ovarian and prostate cancer.

    7. Chlorophyll: One of the most powerful life-giving substances on the planet is chlorophyll. This is the pigment that gives green foods their color. Chlorophyll-rich foods have a very deep green color and they are extraordinarily useful in purifying the body of toxins.

    8. Fermented foods: These contain organic acids, anti-oxidants, enzymes and probiotics that enhance gut function and eliminatory channels. Fermented veggies include sauerkraut, kimchi and fermented soy. Fermented raw dairy from 100% grass-fed cows is amazing for the body. Fermented drinks such as apple cider vinegar, kombucha and herbal botanicals are great estrogen detoxifiers.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040798_aromatization_estrogen_testosterone.html#ixzz4Mp1mWir9
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2016
  5. DLO

    DLO StarFish

    Is DHA testing the same as omega3 testing? Which company/panel do you recommend?
    If so this thread has me confused https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/dha-labs.18227/
    I couldn't find anything in time 9 as to what test to do.
    I will start doing 2-3 dozen oysters a week now that I have found an atlantic supply.
    I am natural but eat just about everything listed in your list.
    Currently on LowFodmaps for SIBO which is almost resolved soon as I figure out how to rotate the pdf i'll post it.
    I do realize that my sex drive has fallen thru the floor in the past year or so.
    I'm taking Androtrex aka supermale vitality and anthroplex to combat this seemingly i've just lost my "drive" and while I still get morning wood now after taking these... I'm just not out there chasing skirts and have lost interest it seems.
    Heat tends to kill my drive as well so now thats it getting colder maybe things will change but since i've been CTing thru the summer... not sure it will make a difference.
    I will be doing a followup dutch test probally by the end of the year.
  6. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    [ quote="DLO, post: 202669, member: 19314"]Is DHA testing the same as omega3 testing? Which company/panel do you recommend?
    If so this thread has me confused https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/dha-labs.18227/
    I couldn't find anything in time 9 as to what test to do.

    DHA is one of the omega3 fatty acids.
    There is many fatty acids, we need all of them in the just right amount.
    When $$ ring, there is a hype, always, about everything, in this case it is a hype over omega3
    everybody and his brother
    including doctors, salesman and laboratory owners
    are on a take
    Big Pharma leads the way
    patient be ware

    do only (honest) fatty acids analysis
    do not do any indexes or other evaluations that always ends with a great need for fish/krill oil supplementation
    even eating seafood may be questionable
    just ask your self where all this EPA is coming from
    Easy accessible, paid by insurance is test at Mayo Clinic or Labcorp
    I think you are doctor, just write a script, add ICD-10 codes get results.
    You want:
    Fatty Acid Profile, Comprehensive (C8-C26), Serum
    There is a better fatty acids test but it is harder to get (may be not for you).
    While you are there, you may want to do this script for LabCorp:
    I did it 8/16/2016 all paid by insurance
    You add to that list LH and FSH and ferritin
    you have to draw blood 3x
    7:30AM, noon and 2;30PM (because of cortisol)
    and be fasted
    Tell me your
    height, weight, age, body fat%, body temperature
    do you have all body parts
    any known diagnosed problems
    your zip code (where your Mom and GrandMother lived)
    Good idea to get:
    Micronutrient Test (MNT) $390
    ordered online

    It will help you asses and correct about 35 items

    Aim at fasting insulin 2-3

    I will start doing 2-3 dozen oysters a week now that I have found an atlantic supply.
    I am natural but eat just about everything listed in your list.

    Currently on LowFodmaps for SIBO which is almost resolved soon as I figure out how to rotate the pdf i'll post it.

    I do realize that my sex drive has fallen thru the floor in the past year or so.
    Have you been hit to the head or thru accident,
    your pituitary's status is being questioned now
    pituitary MRI may be in order (but do not even plan for any surgeries there)
    good idea to test all pituitary hormones
    Script above will give you some idea
    tribulus or other herbs will not help you over long time
    the idea is to replace/supplement signal that pituitary should have given
    Your Circadian Rhythm is not so bad (DUTCH)
    If you (when justified) are able to get and pay for Growth Hormone,
    tell me
    I will replace IGF-1 & IGFBP3 tests in the script above, with better ones.

    I'm taking Androtrex aka supermale vitality and anthroplex to combat this seemingly i've just lost my "drive" and while I still get morning wood now after taking these... I'm just not out there chasing skirts and have lost interest it seems.
    As above, pituitary is being questioned.

    Heat tends to kill my drive as well so now thats it getting colder maybe things will change but since i've been CTing thru the summer... not sure it will make a difference.
    I will be doing a followup dutch test probally by the end of the year.[/quote]

    Between, spectracell, blood test at LabCorp and this DUTCH, you should get good idea about what ails you.
    I do not know where you are,
    but get max light that you can muster.
    You been asking on other threads about artificial lights.
    Look again here:

    I am guessing that the blood test will come up with lowish DHEAs

  7. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    We are made of cells and mitochondria.
    Their boundaries are membranes.
    Membranes are made of phospholipids.



    Spectracell Micronutrient test will tell you about a head
    Fatty Acids analysis will tell you about tails.



  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Good think about freeCortisol
    is that you are able to make a use of FreeT3.

    what is your FreeT3 ??
    it should be within upper 1/4 of range

  9. DLO

    DLO StarFish

    Mom and her mother at the 23th lattitude i'm at the 49th
    No accident or head hitting just learning more about this health stuff and find women that arn't into this are kinda... boring and would rather listen to podcasts than chase skirts.
    Also it's only been this year or two that i've had a big change from seeing younger girls as totally unattractive.
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2016
  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    [ quote="DLO, post: 202676, member: 19314"]Mom and her mother at the 23th lattitude i'm at the 49th
    No accident or head hitting just learning more about this health stuff and find women that arn't into this are kinda... boring and would rather listen to podcasts than chase skirts.
    Also it's only been this year or two that i've had a big change from seeing younger girls as totally unattractive.

    I also find @Jack Kruse sexy
    but I know what you mean and hopefully we will fix that.
    Vit D=105(125-250)nmol/L


    you are in luck
    lots of low hanging fruits (fruits, figuratively speaking)

    Thinking of that,
    your goal is:

    Fasting insulin,serum=~2-3
    At LabCorp
    Insulin, Free and Total, Serum Test Number: 140350 CPT Code: 83525; 83527

    You want (NATURAL not supplemented) at the level of at least=
    Vitamin D (25-Hydroxyvitamin D)(250nmol/L=100.16ng/mL)
    are able to go safely to twice of the above level
    but rather think of 1.5 above
    to keep safety margin.
    You know that many people are already quite ok with 60.0 ng/mL, but your fore-parents had more, living at lower lattitudes (23) than you (49), closer to equator.
    To get there
    buy SPERTI lamp, RED
    Sperti Fiji SUN Table Top Tanning Lamp
    start very slowly,
    take one month (30 days) to get from 5min/EOD (distance 18")
    to 15 min/day
    after 2 months, check your vit D, adjust time
    As with regular sunlight skin reaction is delayed, 4-6 hrs after exposure, think about your skin, think if maybe it was too much. If you feel hot or burning, that is a sign of excessive exposure.
    Newer use anything on your skin. Possibly coconut oil, buy I would skip that too.

    Use the other lights in setup I mentioned previously.
    In area that you spend most time,
    use at least 1000W to power those light for 12 hrs/day, from closest distance possible.
    I find that to be about 3-4 feet.
    on this post:

    Looking at reaction of your pituitary,
    you have a major thyroid insuficiency,
    if true
    that would be a one plus for your pituitary
    that it responded as it should.

    Another good news, the likely reason you have slightly excessive free-cortisol
    is because
    it is not used by FreeT3
    You must check your thyroiod status.
    Script here contains also thyroid part:
    eventually, your goal is
    FreeT3 in upper 1/4 of laboratory range.
    First make sure that you have plenty of raw material (selenium, iodine, iodide)
    After that is satisfied, plus enough time passed to get to equilibrium,
    if you would have defficient FT3 you would need to supplement (naturally)
    using Thyroid Hormone from pigs

    Start with
    making sure that you have plenty of selenium
    (Spectracell Micronutrient Analysis says hello)
    any how
    for 2-4 weeks keep taking
    one/day selenium pill from lef.org
    start (increasing by drops) Lugol's
    Life Extension - Super Selenium Complex & Vitamin E - 200 Mcg - 100 Vcaps (200 VCAPS)
    start on Lugols,
    within a month or two you will know if you have any problem tolerating Luugol's
    Long range Lugol's dose is
    Selenium status you will read from second Spectracell Micronutrient test.
    Adjust dose accordingly.
    J.CROW'S¨ Lugol's Iodine Solution(2 oz.) Four Pack(4 bot.) + Free Additional J. Crow's Dropper

    This Spectracell wheels, show correlations of health conditions with micronutrients.
    Summary on required tests:
    From now on plan on doing 2x/year
    blood test as listed here:

    Spectracell Micronutrient analysis

    Micronutrient Test (MNT)
    LIFE LABS (North Vancouver @ Lonsdale Ave.)
    Address:#215-1916 Lonsdale Avenue North Vancouver, Canada V7M 2K3 (Map)
    Please call ahead for operating hours; patients must provide test kit(s) and Spectracell physician requisition

    ExamOne - Vancouver

    Address:106-828 West 8th Ave. Vancouver, Canada V5Z 1E2 (Map)



    Last edited: Oct 12, 2016
  11. JanSz

    JanSz Gold


    Iodide – One Mineral Can Help A Myriad Of Conditions From Atherosclerosis To “COPD” to Zits
    Jan 8, 2011 | Dr. Jonathan V. Wright's Articles | 0 comments

    If you’ve read or heard anything at all about potassium iodide, it’s probably been in association with terrorist attacks or nuclear power plant disasters. Potassium iodide (usually taken in tablet form) is recommended by “public health” authorities to protect the thyroid gland against accumulation of radioactive iodine released by a “terrorist bomb” or by nuclear power plant “meltdown”. But in reality, potassium iodide is a very effective “home remedy” with literally dozens of uses.

    Older readers may remember Mother putting “iodine” on cuts and scrapes. It kept infection away as well as any “modern” antibiotic ointment, with the added benefit of not inducing “bacterial resistance”. But what else is potassium iodide (usually abbreviated by it’s Latin initials “SSKI”) good for? Read on…and then make sure to read the separate section about keeping SSKI use safe.

    Some years ago, a retired Indian physician told me about his use of SSKI during more than 30 years traveling from village to village in rural Africa. Most usually, the only drinking water available was from a local stream or river, muddy and contaminated. After removing sediment and debris by straining the dirty water through cheesecloth, he’d add several drops of SSKI, and wait two to three minutes. He and his team could then drink the water. In over 30 years, he never got an infection from contaminated water. The SSKI killed any micro-organisms present.

    Fortunately, the water available to most of us when traveling is considerably cleaner. Despite this, when Holly (my wife) and I travel, we always carry a small bottle of SSKI, and put one or two drops into any water we’re not absolutely certain about. We’ve cut back considerably on airline travel this year because of the thoroughly un-American and extremely unpleasant “airport Gestapo” experience. But when we’re forced to travel by air, we drink a few ounces of water with 10 drops of SSKI, and prevent any “airline sinusitis” or other respiratory infection that so often follows several hours spent breathing re-cycled, germ laden air. (SSKI rapidly accumulates in any and all body secretions, including in the sinuses, where it inhibits or kills bacteria, viruses, and fungi before they can cause an infection.)

    Although Holly has never had the experience, occasionally another woman at one of the conferences we attend has developed a bladder infection when far away from home and her own physician. Holly gives her our “back-up” small bottle of SSKI with instructions to take 10 to 15 drops in water or juice every 3 to 4 hours (while awake) until the infection is gone.

    [Although SSKI is close to 100% effective in the elimination of bladder infections, this is a “high dose”; make sure to read the section “Keeping SSKI safe”. If possible, it’s best to use the simple sugar D-mannose to eliminate bladder infections. D-mannose is effective over 90% of the time, and is very, very safe. For details, see D-mannose and Bladder Infection by Lane Lenard Ph.D. and me, available through the Tahoma Clinic Dispensary.]

    When our children were teenagers, they always knew where to find the SSKI bottle. Whenever one of them “popped a zit”, she or he would rub SSKI into it every hour or two. The offending “zit” would be gone in 24-48 hours or less; an innumerable number of social events were rendered “zit-free” by this approach.

    So far, I’ve been telling you about SSKI’s ability to “kill germs” in one place or another. We’ll return to this important “home remedy” use for SSKI, but let’s digress for now to other uses.

    Many women develop “fibrocystic breast disease”. In the 1970s, I learned from pioneering trace element researcher Dr. John Myers that iodine (a close “relative” of SSKI) would eliminate even the most severe cases of fibrocystic breast disease. [For the full details of this treatment, see pages 169-174 of The Patient’s Book of Natural Healing by Alan Gaby M.D. and me.] In “medium” to “minor” cases, 6 to 8 drops of SSKI taken in a few ounces of water daily will frequently reduce fibrocystic breast disease to insignificance within three to six months. Please do not do this without monitoring your thyroid function…see “Keeping SSKI Safe” on page whatever.

    One of our daughters and at least thirty other women I’ve worked with in nearly 30 years have helped ovarian cysts disappear within two to three months with the same quantity of SSKI. Again, make sure to monitor your thyroid function!
    It’s very likely that SSKI helps eliminate fibrocystic breast disease and ovarian cysts at least partly through it’s interaction with estrogens….which brings us to another important use for SSKI (and other forms of iodine such as “Lugol’s solution” and “di-atomic iodine”). All of these forms of iodine help your body to metabolize estrone (a slightly carcinogenic human estrogen) and 16-alpha-hydroxyestrone (a much more dangerous metabolite of human estrogen) into estriol, an “anti-carcinogenic” or at worst “neutral” form of human estrogen. I’ve reviewed literally hundreds of hormone tests in over 26 years which have proven this point. This testing and treatment usually requires the help of a physician skilled and knowledgeable in nutritional and natural medicine, who can also help with monitoring thyroid function.

    Learn More About The Tahoma Clinic

    “Dupuytren’s contracture” and “Peyronie’s disease” are two “fibrotic” conditions that can be helped considerably by SSKI. In Dupuytren’s contracture, thickening (fibrosis) occurs along one of the tendons in the palm in the hand, pulling the related finger down towards the palm. As the problem progresses, the finger often can’t be straightened any more.

    In Peyronie’s disease, a very similar thickening occurs along the shaft of the penis, making erections increasing “curved” and painful. In both cases, rubbing SSKI into the thickened tissue at least twice daily softens and lessens the fibrotic area over a period of several months, allowing for more normal function.

    For these conditions, it’s additionally helpful to take para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA) 2 grams, three times daily, and to rub a mixture of Vitamin E and DMSO into the thickened areas, also. However, if “caught early”, SSKI alone will often “do the job”. (It’s also advisable to have glucose-insulin tolerance test done, as there’s an unusually high incidence of “insulin resistance” in people with Dupuytren’s contracture or Peyronie’s disease.

    “Keloids” are abnormally thick scars, sometimes as much as an inch thick, that can form after injury. Although anyone can get a keloid, they’re more common among African Americansthan other ethnic groups. Rubbing SSKI into a keloid at least twice daily will ultimately flatten them down to a “normal scar”, but it can take many months to a year for particularly bad ones. The treatment goes faster if SSKI is mixed “50-50” with DMSO.

    “Fistulas” are literally abnormal tunnels through tissues, “tunnels” prevented from healing by chronic infection. Two not-unusual types are “peri-anal fistulas” (a “tunnel” from outside the anus to the inside of the rectum) and “recto-vaginal” fistulas. Although these fistulas can be treated successfully by surgery, they can often be healed by frequent swabbing inside and out with an SSKI-soaked “Q-tip”. Patience is required: Complete healing often takes several months. The treatment appears to work better if the SSKI is mixed with DMSO, which enhances “penetrance”. My colleague Richard Kunin, M.D. of San Francisco, is a “world class” expert on the use of SSKI and other forms of iodine. He has found that hemorrhoids will sometimes disappear literally overnight, when SSKI (20 drops) mixed with flaxseed oil (1 ounce) is rubbed in them at bedtime. He’s also found that SSKI alone will do the same job, although it “really stings” when applied to a hemorrhoid by itself.

    When I was a pre-med student at Harvard University, the famous chemistry professor Louis Feiser made a point of demonstrating to all the pre-medical students that iodine and iodide would make oils, fats, and waxes (cholesterol is actually a wax) more soluble in water. He urged us to remember this in our medical practices, as he was sure it wouldn’t be taught in medical school (he was right!). This known action of iodide likely explains why SSKI can be useful in the next two applications.

    Over 30 years ago, two ophthalmologists observed that a combination tablet called “Iodo-niacin” (iodide 120 milligrams, niacin 15 milligrams) taken for several months could actually reverse atherosclerotic clogging of arteries. They proved this effect by taking pictures of clogged arteries in the backs of the eyes (“retinal photomicrographs”) before and after treatment. The published photographs showed a significant lessening of the cholesterol-laden artery clogging in the “after” pictures.

    Amazingly enough, no follow-up study has ever been published (probably because niacin and iodide aren’t patentable). Despite this, the published pictures speak clearly for themselves. I recommend 4 to 6 drops of SSKI and niacin-containing B-complex daily (along with many other things) for anyone with significant cholesterol-related atherosclerotic clogging. Thyroid function must be monitored!

    “Sebaceous cysts” are cysts which contain oily, fatty material. They usually appear rather suddenly on the face or in the groin or labia. Rubbing in SSKI mixed 50-50 with DMSO will almost always persuade these cysts to go away in a week or two; it appears that the iodide “dissolves” the fatty, oily material contained in the cysts, allowing your body to slowly re-absorb and dispose of it.

    Although it’s not a common condition, from time to time someone will come to my office at Tahoma Clinic inquiring about alternatives to surgery for “parotid duct stone”. These are “stones” which can form in the saliva-carrying duct(s) from the major salivary glands (“parotid” glands, located at the “angle of the jaw”). 3 to 4 drops of SSKI taken in water daily will almost always dissolve parotid duct stones within four to eight months.

    If you have chronic bronchitis and or emphysema (“COPD”, “COLD”) SSKI is an invaluable tool. SSKI “gets into” all body secretions, including often thick and hard to cough up bronchial secretions, which get infected very easily. SSKI takes care of both of these problems. It “loosens” secretions remarkably, making them much easier to “clear”, and it prevents micro-organisms from growing easily. With regular SSKI use, bronchial infection is a much less frequent happening. Depending on the severity of COPD, I recommend 3 to 6 drops of SSKI taken in water once daily. As COPD is usually a chronic condition, SSKI use will usually be indefinite, so make sure to monitor your thyroid function! (See the August 2002 Nutrition & Healing for a more complete discussion of natural COPD treatment.)

    Now, back to other infections. For this group, using SSKI mixed “50-50” with DMSO works better, as the DMSO enables SSKI to penetrate much more deeply into the tissues and kill germs.

    Infected “hangnails” are perhaps the easiest to clear up this way, as are nagging bacterial infections around the edges of the toenails. Rub in the mixture several times daily, and the problem’s usually gone in a few days. Herpes simplex (“herpes”) ourbreaks can be “stopped cold” in the same way, but it often takes longer for the “sore” to heal itself over.

    If you have persistent “swollen glands” in the throat or groin areas, see a doctor first! These can very rarely be signs of leukemia, lymphoma, or another cancer, especially in older people. But if all tests and studies are negative, and the doctor says “it’s just swollen glands”, rub in the SSKI with DMSO. In a large majority of cases, the “just swollen glands” will gradually fade away.

    Fungus under the toenails (“onychomycosis”) is a difficult problem to treat. Even “conventional” anti-fungal drug treatment takes months to work, and (for safety) monthly liver function tests are necessary. SSKI and DMSO rubbed on, around, and under the affected toenails doesn’t work any faster, but it’s just as effective, and definitely safer. Make sure to wear old socks, because SSKI and other forms of iodine leave an orange-brown stain. (Other safe and effective alternatives include geranium oil, oregano oil, and tea tree oil. These and other anti-fungal oils also require “help” from DMSO to penetrate the toenail and soak the fungus underneath.)

    SSKI can also help clear up vaginal infections. 20 to 30 drops in water, used in a small “douche” once daily for five to ten days will usually do the job. (There’s actually a prescription-only iodine preparation of available for vaginal infections, too.) However, iodine preparations of any sort for vaginal infections are often not popular because of the inevitable orange-brown stains they leave on clothing.

    What about SSKI to help a “weak” thyroid (hypothyroidism)? Even though iodine and iodide are absolutely essential to thyroid hormone formation, in most “developed” countries, hypothyroid conditions are not usually due to an outright lack of iodine or iodide. Still, hypothyroidism is occasionally helped by 1 drop of SSKI daily. Make sure to work with your doctor on this one!

    Lastly, there’s a gastronomic use for SSKI: reducing the gas we all get from eating beans! If you’re soaking beans before cooking them, add 1 or 2 drops of SSKI, and let them soak for an hour or more. (Pour offf that water before cooking, and add fresh water.) You’ll be surprised at the reduction in resulting intestinal gas! (For those who want a technical explanation: There’s a naturally occurring enzyme inhibitor in beans which interferes with starch digestion, producing gas. SSKI inactivates this enzyme inhibitor.)


    In the past, SSKI and other forms of iodine and iodide were available only on prescription, or through chemical supply sources. Since the mid-1990s passage of the Federal DSHEA law, we’ve regained the basic American freedom to buy and sell natural substances (narcotics exempted) without prescription. You haven’t read or heard much about SSKI because (despite Federal Appeals Court decisions) FDA still maintains it’s First Amendment violating policy of complete suppression of truthful product use information on package labels or in advertisements….unless of course FDA is paid an enormous amount of money ($250 million minimum, according to Congressional testimony) for “approval”. Since SSKI can’t be patented…well, you know the rest.

    SSKI can be obtained without prescription in some compounding pharmacies, some health food stores, through “on-line” sources, and at the Tahoma Clinic Dispensary (with which I am of course affiliated) in a convenient travel-size dropper bottle.


    There are three “hazards” to using SSKI: staining, allergy, and a very small possibility of thyroid suppression with longer-term use of “too much”.

    Staining can be a big nuisance, but it’s not a health hazard. When SSKI is applied to skin, it can impart a faint to moderate orange-brown color, which fades away once SSKI is no longer being applied. SSKI and other iodine stains in clothing can be semi-permanent or permanent, so don’t plan to wear anything “nice” in the vicinity of recently-applied SSKI.

    Iodine allergy is a possibility, although in nearly 30 years of medical practice I’ve seen it only a few times. Usually, it causes a red, bumpy skin rash, which goes away after SSKI or other iodine is discontinued. Topical (applied to the skin surface) iodine allergy is almost never a serious emergency.

    SSKI or iodine can very occasionally cause acne, which also goes away once the source of iodine is dicontinued.

    The type of so-called “iodine allergy” that can interfere with breathing and occasionally sends us to the emergency room is usually not allergy to iodine or iodine molecules, but instead to much larger, possibly iodine-containing molecules found in lobster, crab, clams and other “shellfish”. These molecules are not present in SSKI or iodine. However, if there’s any suspicion at all of iodine allergy, it’s best not to swallow any without testing for allergy or sensitivity.

    Too much iodine for too long can suppress thyroid function. Many of the uses described for SSKI in the accompanying article are short-term, from a few days or less to a week or two. If SSKI is then stopped, there’s almost no chance of significant thyroid suppression. However, if SSKI is to be used for two to three weeks or longer, and especially if it’s to be used continuously (for example, COPD or cholesterol-related atherosclerosis) monitoring thyroid function is very important. To find a physician near you who can help order and interpret thyroid function tests contact Meridian Valley Lab.

    Fortunately, in my experience with over a thousand individuals, internal use of than nine drops of SSKI daily has or less has very rarely resulted in thyroid suppression. On those very few occasions, discontinuance has resulted in prompt recovery. So far, I’ve never seen thyroid suppression result from “topical” (skin surface) use of SSKI.

    A final “safety” note: Dr. Kunin cautions (and I agree) that if you use SSKI or other iodine “long-term”, make sure your diet contains plenty of essential fatty acids (both omega-3 and omega-6) as well as the sulfur-containing amino acids methionine and cysteine. If you eat animal protein daily, that’s usually sufficient as a source of these two amino acids, but if you’re vegetarian (or close) and using “long term” SSKI or other iodine, then take 300-500 milligrams of each daily.


    Iodine is a basic element, as are calcium, zinc, oxygen and other elements. The word “iodine” usually refers to two iodine molecules chemically “stuck together” (I2), just as the word “oxygen” usually refers to two oxygen molecules “stuck together” (O2). Since iodine is more reactive, and therefore more likely to cause problems, iodine is usually used as “iodide”, a word which refers to one iodine molecule combined with another molecule such as potassium (KI) or sodium (NaI). In chemical terms, such molecules are called “salts”; the best known salt is sodium chloride (NaCl), a “salt” of chlorine (Cl2).

    The “SS” in “SSKI” refers to “Saturated Solution Potassium Iodide”. Other medically useful forms of iodine include “Lugol’s solution”, invented by Dr. Lugol of Paris in the 1840s, which contains a mixture of types of iodine and iodide, and “di-atomic iodine”, which is another name for iodine, but usually prepared as a solid in a capsule instead of a liquid.

    -Jonathan V. Wright, MD
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2016
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    Good intentions.
    But what is wrong with this picture.
    Not much skin exposed.
    Still, it was better than no sun exposure at all.
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    But this misses the point big way.
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    In Vancouver you are hardly getting much sun.
    Assume one hr before and one hr after (solar) noon, the is acceptable amount of sunlight,
    do not miss this two hrs.

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    My neighbors kid, about 30+,
    got his PHD, married his sweetheart and about a year latter got MS.
    He rarely see any sunlight.
    Works 10+ hrs/day in his hospital, lots of that time in front of computer screens.

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    Find at least 2 years old, very healthy looking reef (not fish) aquarium, at least 200gallons big.
    Find out the total electric Kw power used for its lighting.
    You want that much over your local space (every day).


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