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Tropical Foods

Discussion in 'The Epi-Paleo Diet' started by Technosmith, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. Technosmith

    Technosmith New Member

    Hey folks,

    If living in Europe (UK) are tropical oils (and fruits) an environmental mismatch during any season or does Jack believe these are OK during the summer when the sun is (supposed to be) out?


  2. drezy

    drezy New Member

    How do you measure your redox?
  3. ScottishEmma

    ScottishEmma Silver

    Great question, Phil.

    I've listened to a few podcasts where this is talked about but without answering your question specifically - which I have asked myself.

    For me, bananas or tropical fruits don't grow in Glasgow ever so I avoid them. However, I did have some coconut yesterday and I'll kill anyone that tells me I can't eat chocolate. Seriously.

    Whilst I'm clearly not practicing the mismatch theory in its entirety, I'm opting for the 80/20 rule. Because obviously certain spices like turmeric don't grow here either but it's a good thing to include in the diet.

    And yeah, I guess if your redox is good you could tolerate a bit more...
  4. shiran

    shiran Curious

    If I eat a mango that grows here right now in Israel not far away from my location in the same latitude , is it ok ? Or if I had a mango tree in my backyard was right to eat from it ? The real question is : in true nature dose a mango grow in the 31 latitude? Do we really live in our true nature?
  5. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    Good question. I wonder if we need to know our ancestry or location where we live now or where we were born.
  6. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    If tropical foods grow in the UK in July sure........that should solve it.
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  7. Technosmith

    Technosmith New Member

    Using a black and yellow retractable tape measure?
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  8. Technosmith

    Technosmith New Member

    I believe my redox is poor at very best!!!!
  9. Technosmith

    Technosmith New Member

    Haha, class. Love your sense of humour Mr Kruse.

    I think my favourite comment of yours went something like "If you choose to eat a banana in Scotland in the winter, you're an idiot"!

    Straight to the point!!
  10. ScottishEmma

    ScottishEmma Silver

    I don't think it was Scotland :)
  11. Technosmith

    Technosmith New Member

    Haha. Something along those lines.

    What's everyone's opinion on this one - is raw food an environmental mismatch in a colder climate?

    For example, imagine coming in on a cold winters evening to a dinner of slow cooked lamb with oven baked carrots and onion compared to a fruit salad and/or plate of sushi?
  12. ScottishEmma

    ScottishEmma Silver

    When I was a raw foodist I don't remember wishing that my food was hot in Winter. The point is that it is totally unnatural to eat salad in winter because aside from some wild greens, it just doesn't grow here.
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  13. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    I watched a food programme recently, not usually interested but it was about the Artic, partly about the drift towards imported food, but how there are people trying to maintain or revive the traditional diet. The show host was invited to a traditional meal, and there was one cooked dish offered, but the majority was raw seafood or sea mammal. I don't do well with just cold raw seafood or meat in the winter if I'm trying to live in the cold lane, and drinking ice cold water while doing CT in winter can take me over the edge ...:eek:.. but I was thinking about their haplotype and lifestyle in general, and the traditional diet's effects on the microbiome, and the mitochondria. Their haplotype and the traditional wearing the skins of arctic mammals that are super efficient at conserving and recycling heat/light could make it possible to survive without needing to obtain heat from the cooking of food, in a area without trees and where oils from sea mammals would be a precious resource. All back to overall context ...?
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  14. Danco3636

    Danco3636 Silver

    Now thinking if Bananas don't grow in Scotland then perhaps they shouldn't be eaten even in the summer or at all.
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  15. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

  16. Bonnie

    Bonnie Gold

    Ok. I get it. But what about nuts and Avacodos. They don't grow in Calgary Alberta ever. Does the same rule apply?
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  17. Danco3636

    Danco3636 Silver

    I would say if you can grow it in your region then when in season should be good.
    Avocados may be one of those foods that are just good anytime.
    But if your light is strong, mitochondria and redox good does it really matter?
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  18. Valerie

    Valerie New Member

    I find it strange that in LA oranges ripen in December and January when we have the least amount of sun.
  19. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    Perhaps its the lowering light levels and cooler temperatures that are the signal to hurry up and ripen the fruit. In the UK for tomatoes grown under artificial conditions, they stimulate the completion of the cycle by dropping the temperature right down ...
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  20. Valerie

    Valerie New Member

    But should we eat high carb fruit (oranges) in December when the UV is at the minimum? I assume this is considered seasonal food

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