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The ultimate EMF book that is a must read.

Discussion in 'The EMF Rx' started by Jack Kruse, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. Gracelind

    Gracelind New Member

    Neighbor boy across the street from us in the early 1970s had a brain tumor in his teens. Probably was benign though I don't know for sure. There was a transmission tower on the hill just a few hundred yards above their house. On damp foggy nights we could hear a "sizzle" and humming sounds from the wires. Even back then we wondered whether living directly under those wires contributed to this tumor. His surgery was successful and as far as I know he's still fine.

    The book is an eye-opener and it calls into question all the research that tells us chemicals are safe that have been banned in Europe and Russia. Makes you wonder about climate change research and the overwhelming campaign to belittle those who call for a healthy skepticism.

    It's clearly an economic decision that chemicals need to be proven conclusively that they are not safe to be removed from the market. Shouldn't a society concerned about health first require proof of safety before a chemical could be introduced? And then there's the much more complicated issue of interaction among multiple chemicals . . .

    We are at the mercy of certain manufacturers and bureaucrats--a sometimes deadly combination.
     
  2. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    Sally I find this interesting - b/c recently our presence of birds around the house has upticked... I mean I walk out side and all I hear is birds. They're having a freaking convention. The only difference I've noticed is that all our evergreens (cypress, juniper, holly, magnolia, fire thorn, and pine trees have an abundance of berries and cones on them this fall. More so than ever before.

    We know Jack has mentioned conifers as essential to our future survival.. initially I thought that it was b/c they are green year round and produce a good quantity of O2. Now I'm wondering about their ability to potentially mitigate EMF. off to ask jack about that...
     
  3. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Why is it exactly that Europe and Russia are much more tuned in? and seem to put people first?
     
  4. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    Audrey

    my thoughts on this at least from an American POV - trace back to Manifest Destiny. This has a HUGE impact in how we do things as Americans, as does our dysfunctional gov't. The premise of who we are as a society - the good and the bad, and how we confront the world at large today - still resides in this principle http://www.ushistory.org/us/29.asp

    now apply that to the concept in the movie Field of Dreams - when James Earl Jones says "People will come" baseball is a allegory of American History.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SB16il97yw
     
  5. JoeBranca

    JoeBranca Silver

    "my thoughts on this at least from an American POV - trace back to Manifest Destiny. This has a HUGE impact in how we do things as Americans, as does our dysfunctional gov't. "


    which ties into Marino's account of his conversations at the international conference with all the power company bigwigs he was invited to speak at (about halfway through the book). It's actually difficult for me to accept the things were said by a couple of those folks as he reports in the book... they sound like the scripted lines of cheesy robber baron villains in old movies. But I suppose with enough drink in someone, they're liable to reveal anything...

    Marino's reflections on what he heard and experienced are more interesting... that the push for above ground powerlines can't be fully explained by the pursuit of profit in context of the power companies. Rather they would want their visible monuments, to remind everyone how they maintain and make possible modern society. In other societies one instead might have numerous inescapable statues and images of their "benevolent" dictators for a similar reminder.
     
  6. Hope

    Hope Gold

    Audrey..just my humble $0.02 as someone who spent 21 years growing up over in Europe (not Russia).....and the #1 clear reason to me is that they are NOT quite AS crazy greedy as they are in the US. Hands down. It's so sad but so so true, in my book. I see it so much in so many examples.

    Just one teeny tiny example....over there, many employees by law get 4 weeks vacation a year. Paid. Have for decades. Employees and stuff is more expensive there, but they are saving money on healthcare expenses for sure. Plus people have about HALF the chronic disease rate they do here. Maybe that will change with the whole EMF thing etc. but it's all.about.money. and government not by the 'government' but a few select large corporations in the US. And it stinks to high heaven. It's also why lots of Americans call lots of Europe 'socialist', which I hate...I call it SMART. And not bad for the size....one of the countries is no bigger than the size of Wisconsin, but it manages to have the 3rd or 4th largest economy. In the world. Not bad for a place with 'socialist' healthcare, retirement etc. It's far from perfect too of course.....but to me this is simple and clear as mud.
     
  7. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    Joe the bold reminds me of excerpts from Atlas Shrugged
     
  8. nicld

    nicld Gold

    Yep, America the land of greed and it is killing us :(

    I am not real optimistic that the government will step in and say that there is an issue. Too many big business's will not allow that.
     
  9. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    But the same big businesses operate in Europe .........
     
  10. Half way through the book. Excellent read. Mostly describes the normal behavior of organizations. It is all about the bottom line, the rest is usually just rhetoric. It is a rare organization that puts its money where its rhetoric is when it comes to the little people. Spin, distortion of the truth, selective use of facts (and fictions), are pretty typical if you keep up with the news. No surprises, just disappointing. I hope the second half is as good as the first.

    Q'Rad Randy
     
  11. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    The most important aspect is this.........they pulled the funding before the semiconducting economy launched.........I am challenging you all to go look at neolithic disease data and see where the waveforms are congruent.........still think it is wheat, gluten, fructose, GMO's?
     
  12. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    I said it somewhere else before, where i live i still have contacts in the Telecommunication business and they are having BIG problems in my region. The cannot get enough coverage on their 3G and 4G, people are really getting mad and the support is working overtime. The thing is that they have given up on some regions, there is to much of conifiers that blocks the signals... So it is in fact happening right now even though the companies will not say so.
     
  13. SeaHorse

    SeaHorse Gold

     
  14. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    If you want to help mankind you need to plant as many conifers as you can..........and live around as many as you can.
     
  15. Krapule

    Krapule New Member

    How is that so? Future blog I guess :)
     
  16. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Oh that is nice! I love pine trees and have two huge ones right outside my always wide open bedroom window :)

    I am waiting impatiently for the book to arrive.

    I love how many clues I have gotten for my next place to live. It is going to be very easy to choose for sure :)
     
  17. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    Then i consider myself very rich today...

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  18. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Wow Peter! You are rich for sure :)

    I always loved those forests since I was a kid. With the soft moss on the earth.. it was like from the tales I read as a kid with the trolls and elves
    In Hamburg (Germany) I always missed those forests, also their smell. It is very intense and just..wow!
     
  19. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    So - add this ability the conifers have, with mountains ranges, and limited LOS - and that's why coverage sucks. HUR! NATURE for the WIN.

    This makes me want to go replant the yews that have died since the upgraded our electrical junction box/meter (fortunately its not a smart meter - but still) Interesting thing - our collards, kale and basil under the electrical junction box/meter have been OUT OF CONTROL. I'm now thinking that if we plant a hedge row of box yews or cyprus - that we'll see additional improvements. One things for sure - in our neighborhood we've had a lot of cyprus and yew die in the past couple of years. but holly, and magnolia and fire thorn are out of control WE've got a HUGE magnolia in the front yard that has been over taking the power lines - we've had to trim it back its gotten so large... things close to 50ft tall
     
  20. nicld

    nicld Gold

    WOOOHOOO at least I have one thing going for me. I live between 2 cell towers but have very little cell reception at my house and there are conifers on both sides of me as well (2 Christmas tree farms as well as pine forests).

    This is good to know when we start looking for a new place to live. Trees for me is a MUST have.

    Quick question, is it just as bad to have the power lines buried or does the ground act as a buffer?
     

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