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The Sleep Thread FFTA

Discussion in 'Cold Thermogenesis' started by Evo Mama, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. Cody

    Cody New Member

    OK Quelson, what other tricks do you have up your sleeve??? This is a good one, by the way!
  2. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    Jon's got a serious bag of tricks... I learned the "Quelsen Method" of supplementation... from him...listen to your body, and dose, based upon what feels right... keep working w/the dose until you feel like you're old self... helped me get my adrenals straight...

    I plan on follwoing up w/my BHRT doc - and letting him know what I think I need based upon my intuition... we'll see if he concurs... :)

    he's also a really good freaking chef - from what I've seen of his food porn on FB. : )
  3. wow, too much melatonin makes me depressed! y mmv
  4. Lyndra

    Lyndra Gold

    Here's an answer Dr. K posted recently on the Evolution of the Leptin RX blog:

    @Orleatha sounds good but I have a warning…….since you, like me lost a ton of weight your remaining fat is concentrated with toxins. If you do CT i think you should do torso immersions and focal CT on the belly. Be ready for toxin dump with B vitamins, DIM, SAMe etc……..lots of mushrooms too! The first two weeks you may feel bad. The other issue is if you do this at night do not do it too close to sleep…….toxing dumping can destroy sleep. So do the CT around 4-6 PM or in the AM. the formerly obese have bigger issues to deal with using CT but it works like a charm
  5. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    I wonder If I'm having toxin dumps... b/c my sleep is shit right now... when I go to sleep I'm out...but then suddenly I'm up a 1am... 4th night in a row so far...

    last night was even worse - b/c ds was a screaming madman - and wouldn't go back to sleep until I cuddled him back to sleep in his new big boy bed (we just moved him from a mattress on the floor of our room to his room that he shares w/his sister)..... eventually he fell back to sleep but I WAS WIDE FREAKING AWAKE at 330 am. at that point I had started to get a migraine... so I went down to the kitchen and popped another melatonin.... got about 3hrs of sleep before both kids came screaming into the bedroom at 630... ughhh....
  6. Kcaliaz

    Kcaliaz New Member

    Ive been doing 30 minute baths everyday for three weeks now. Mostly doing them around noon, after lunch. I've had good, deep sleep every night. then, over the weekend, got busy so I did the baths at 7:30pm...those two nights I slept horribly in that I woke up constantly between 2am and 4 am, plus I had very vivid, emotional dreams. Back to the mid day bath and the crazy dreams disappeared and my sleep is much better. Not sure if the evening baths are more detoxifying, but for now I'm sticking with the mid day bath! I love my sleep!!
  7. Glamazon

    Glamazon Gold

    I bought a sheet of brown and one of black fleece to duct tape over my window. I put the black facing the window and the brown facing me. I place the sheets between the between the blinds and me, not between the blinds and the window. Works great and was about 30 dollars.
  8. Glamazon

    Glamazon Gold

    I havent started CT yet. I am enjoying the lull before the hormone storm starts. I have a lot of weight to lose. Sleep was getting better but my ear ringing has kicked it self up a couple of notches at night so that is making it difficult to fall asleep. I used Niacin 500mg last night and that helps a little bit for that. I can't use it too often because then it makes me loose bladder control. That took awhile to figure out why and then to repair. The keto paleo helped bring back the bladder control.

    I also have severe muscle cramps across the top of my feet and up my calves that have returned for the night and sometimes during the day when I stretch my legs.The only way to alleviate them now is to sit straight up or go walk around. They went away when I was doing crossfit, the heavy lifting. I am up to 2400mg of magnesium malalate at night and that just helps a little. I am tempted to start doing some squats again just to get some relief.

    Ear ringing and painful muscle cramps makes for harsh sleep.
  9. Clabbergirl

    Clabbergirl New Member

    Glad I saw this but it would've been nice to know A MONTH AGO when I started increasing CT baths in lieu of spot-icing sessions!!!! Of the 14 odd baths I've managed during this time period, all of them have been after 9pm and most after 10pm because of my schedule. I am ready to truly give up. This feels like madness.
  10. differentstory

    differentstory New Member

    I feel for you guys!!

    Just wanted to add my two cents and say that I am having a weird CT-sleep thing that I was curious if anyone else is having.

    My sleep has not been screwed up. I do think I was getting a week of rough sleeping at first because my dreaming was in overdrive. And, of course, they were all bad, stressful dreams where I forgot to pay bills or failed all of my classes (haven't been in school in years, go figure).

    I am hoping that CT/Leptin Rx helps my sleep problem. I am a 9-hour-er. I have to sleep almost exactly 9 hours where others around me feel great after 7 or 8 hours. I am also not much of a morning person. I have a hard time turning off the lights before midnight and don't really get going until noon. What I would give to wake up at 5am after only 7 hours of sleep!!!

    Currently, I am having these "blackouts" when I sleep where I almost don't even remember going to sleep and I have no "feeling" of time passing! For instance, last night I noticed I was pretty tired. After CT that ended at 9pm, I felt like I could close my eyes and go to sleep at any second. But, of course, tv got the best of me and I stayed up watching it until 11:30. At 11:30, I finally gave in and I remember turning off the TV, rolling over, and. . .that's it! The next time I open my eyes its 3:30 in the morning and I'm hot.

    It might not seem like much but it reminds me of anesthesia (if you've ever been put under) and I am experiencing this everyday now. I'm wondering if its just because I am so exhausted from the CT? I am not in good shape in the least. I've had other instances of this too where I get sleepy, close my eyes, open them again and it's 3 hours later. It's such a weird feeling (apparently hard to describe too!).

    I know this is definitely a CT thing as this started a week after the crazy dreams.

    I have been CT'ing (full emersion) for two weeks now. Icing one week before that.
  11. PaleoSue

    PaleoSue New Member

    Has anyone noticed they are having more/remembering more dreams since staring the leptin RX and CT?

    I am sleeping mostly very well these days. I had suffered insomnia for years, and had mostly fixed it with the occasional blip before starting the leaky gut rx. But I was still tired all the time (likely from all the sugar and junk I was eating). But 2-3 days a week I would wake up at 4 a.m. and not be able to go back to sleep.

    Since starting the RX and CT, my sleep has been very sound. I fall asleep quickly, which is a nice change. I am still waking up to use the restroom at night, but I fall right back asleep. I use a Phillips light that dims gradually at night and rises gradually in the morning, and I almost always wake up before the audio alarm.

    But I'm having so many vivid dreams now. It's pretty wild. I can't ever remember having this many dreams.
  12. differentstory

    differentstory New Member

    That was last week for me. I really think it's a horomonal thing. I was glad when it stopped. This week I am still dreaming, but feel like I'm not dreaming all night. Instead it is more of a "blacking out" and no perception that time has passed.
  13. fitness@home

    fitness@home Silver

    First two weeks of CT I was sleeping great. For the last week or so, not so much. First four hours I sleep deeply...after midnight is when I am waking. My sleeps cycle is very light during the second half of the night...seems like almost anything can wake me.

    Hoping this will pass in a few weeks. Taking my supps to support during detox. May add melatonin tonight and see if it helps any.

    On the bright side, my energy is pretty good all day and I have long days :) Up by 4AM, out the door before 6AM and don't get home until 6PM.
  14. Mery

    Mery Silver

    This is my third week on LR and CT and last night I slept a few hours then I could not sleep anymore

    I stay in bed and later on I managed to slept, I feel tired now.

    Hope to have a good night tonight :cool:
  15. Pamela

    Pamela Gold

    If you don't want heavy dreams try taking 1-200 Mg of vitamin B1 about an hour before bed.
  16. Clabbergirl

    Clabbergirl New Member

    Last night was the first time I had lousy sleep since starting CT, and it was uncharacteristic of my sleep even before CT. I did a 35 min CT soak in the tub and then went to bed (yes I know I should be doing this earlier in the evening to prevent 'toxin dump destroying sleep', but I am having to pick my suboptimal battles). I was nice and relaxed afterward, no shivering or anything as usual, and I even took two 3mg melatonin when I only ever take 1. For some reason I woke at around 3:30 - wide awake. I feel awful this morning and am pounding down the caffeine to get me through the next 16+ hours of responsibility laid out before me. I don't know how people live with insomnia - I'm such a lightweight. I can't handle more than a couple of nights or I'm a virtual shell of a person.

    I'm hoping this was a fluke and not a result of my cold bath. I've taken 14 cold baths before, all of them longer than last night's, and had nothing but good, deep sleep afterward. Fingers crossed this doesn't happen again.
  17. PaleoSue

    PaleoSue New Member

    I'm still having very vivid dreams nearly every night a few minutes before waking -- and I'm not complaining. They are awesome.
  18. Tizawee

    Tizawee New Member

    Thanks to all who posted about their post-menopausal sleep issues. Before starting CT I was falling asleep on the couch soon after 8pm, went to bed at 9pm and slept fitfully until 5am. The first few nights of CT I slept soundly for 8 hours. After 4 days of face-dunking, I began having middle of the night toe cramps - really wicked ones - so I stopped altogether until I could get those under control. I'm back on CT now but only sleeping about 6 hours and waking several times during the night, sometimes to pee, sometimes hot, sometimes cold. I'm going to try morning CT and see if that helps the sleep issues. I did notice that, after only a few days doing CT, my hot flashes seemed to subside somewhat. Okay, it's just after 5am now. Gotta go snorkeling. (That's what DH calls my face-dunking. :D)
  19. fitness@home

    fitness@home Silver

    Another post menopausal here.

    Past couple of days I have been kind of achey all over...putting it down to detox. Drop dead tired around 8:30PM. Have to say I slept like a rock until around 2:30AM. Then I was just wide awake - there was no sense staying in bed!
  20. Has anyone tried using a zeo to hack their sleep?

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