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The new mRNA vaccine early aftermarket data

Discussion in 'Educating Doctors' started by Jack Kruse, Feb 15, 2021.

  1. Jude

    Jude Gold

  2. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Hey Jude ....How are you?????
  3. Pablo

    Pablo New Member

    My dad (64) is getting tomorrow the vax, I believe the AstraZeneca one . How bad is It??? It is not mARN as I understand but (which seems yo me that Jack is more concerned) there have been lots of side effects, with many countries suspending administratation,but now they return here in Spain.

    I think It is stupid and tried yo disuade him away, but he is not into Vit or our lifestyles. He s not thinking well. Just talking with friends I heard many stories of people (many young and not weak) getting pretty fucked a few days. Just common sense tells me a good percentage can die or have serious effects, and mainstream marketing are seriously underreporting stuff.

    If he gets fucked, at least I warned him.
  4. Thank you for trying.
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  5. Richard Watson

    Richard Watson New Member

    Its only early days here yet but already I know one woman who's got a blood clot on the lung, her hubbie's so gutted as she never told him she was going to have it
  6. Jude

    Jude Gold

    Survived a big flood this last couple of weeks:D all ok thanks.
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  7. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

  8. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    we were flooded in for 4 days as well......well the road into Yamba was - we are fine.
  9. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

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  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Two people, 85yo Filipino male, I used to work with, and about 50yo Irish man, the first guy's son-in-law.
    Philipino, after the second shot one side of his face dropped, like after the stroke.
    He just sold his house, moving from NJ USA to Philipines. He still was able to fly to Philipines where he is now.
    In the USA, my neighborhood. The Irish had the first shot.
    Now is due for the second shot, what should he do?
    Any advice to the Philipino guy?
    @Jack Kruse

  11. Inger

    Inger Silver

    It is so unbelievable that people want to vaccinate themselves despite these facts.. young people!

    Now we are coming closer every day, to the circumstances in Israel, here in Germany.....

    Restaurants and other places are opening, but only accessible for vaccinated or tested people.

    So this is creating a mental push for people to vaccinate themselves, even if they do not really wanted to.
    Because otherwise they will not have "freedoms".

    Isnt it weird.
    People have forgot that true freedom never comes from outside. This is a lie....just a hook.

    I have been thinking about what is about to happen. And how the Government has its agenda. And how it really fails.. because they try to punish the one who is not taking the vaccine or test. But this punishment does not work. I do not need to go to a Restaurant, or theater, or Stadion, full of people. I never liked it anyways! I like it way better out in the wild.... :love:
    So instead of being a punishment it is kind of a blessing :):):)
    And I am not too thrilled to spend much time in closed rooms full of vaccinated people anyways.. in case they start shedding some gene-manipulated viruses - who knows.

    My boss called me the other day and asked me to come to work as lockdown now ends (for vaccinated and tested ones).
    But I dont think i can. How on earth can I be a waitress in a restaurant and tell non vaccinated people they cannot enter. Even if we workers do not have to take the vaccine, how can I possibly turn anyone away at the door? No. This is so much against my heart. I rather stay poor, because I earn a lot working as a waitress. But as a cleaning lady I earn enough to survive and i am soooo happy and free. No mask needed either.

    I used to think that maybe 50% of the people here will take this experimental "vaccine". But now.. I think 90% might do it. This is what I see around me. Only to access certain places.
    It is like their own health come so far down the road.

    Wow.. these times are really something......
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  12. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Why are they taking it??
    If they do, they must be aware that anything can happen. It is like playing roulette.
    I already know one in my surroundings that dropped dead 2 days after the second shot from a blood clot in the lung. It was a doctor. he wanted to protect himself from covid.
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  13. Chantelle

    Chantelle New Member

    Has Israel gone ahead with the strict regulations? Everyday I keep thinking that this madness is all a joke and it will end soon. Then I remember 911.

    Having said all that I don't think we can forget things like we did back then... too much info out on the Internet and too many people talking about the lies being pushed...
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  14. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Israel has turned into a Psychopatic state.. and Germany follows its footsteps. Israel have now vaccine apartheid and here it has arrived too.
    Watch this wonderful Professor in Psychology and what he says about the current situation. he is a genius, and he is right. my heart says it.
    He is a malignant narcissist and really an expert when it comes to evil.

    It ends when you decide it for yourself.
    Just step out of the madness and start living as a free human being, with great creativity, and you will be surprised at what you will experience ;):):)

    Just be willing to lose everything. Then no one can push or pressure you anymore. Then you are free :)
    And then you discover what really matters, and how beautiful life is really.. to breath freely, let the sun shine on your skin freely...
    I have never been so conscious about how good it feels to be able to breath freely since the mask craziness started and I was pushed to use a plastic mask at work (I refused other masks)
    But even the plastic half face shield was horrible. I am not doing it anymore. I do not need anything in front of my mouth.
    Now every day is such a luxury! Breath... ahhh.. it does so good. I am now thankful for my traumatic work experience, because now I really value not having to endure that anymore.

    We need to stop being victims. All rallies etc.. it is victimhood. The government actually feeds on that. It makes it worse! Fighting against evil makes it worse.
    We are not victims. We are Masters :)
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  15. Dan2

    Dan2 Pedantic schlub

    Eric Clapton:
    "In February this year, before I learned about the nature of the vaccines, (and being 76 with emphysema) I was in the avant garde. I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days, I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one...

    About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers. Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.) But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone...."


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  16. Penny

    Penny New Member

    Welcome to my world... my son is getting his second jab May 18th... I hope he is ok... I put anise seed in our coffee... sorta like an auto anticoagulant thing... all you can say is ain't it a shame... there are doctors in India using 65mg of aspirin 2 days before and for 8 days after the shot with 10mg of rivaroxaban and so far 125 people have had a clot free shot... I can't believe these things are still legal...
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  17. Inger

    Inger Silver

    In Finland, a small population of 5 million, where about 2 millions have already vaccinated themselves, there are around 9000 deaths caused by the vaccine and way more complications.

    But these are data that are not spread in the news. My sister works there as a nurse and got this information. She told me yesterday.

    Also she said they have been observing how vaccinated people spread the virus up to 3 months after the vaccination. She herself got covid after her coworkers vaccinated. Or at least she tested positive and had a one week fever and flu, like a normal not too bad flu she said. She recovered fine at home just relaxed. No issues. Now she is back at work.

    I was visiting a woman that has got her first shot (she coughed a lot but said she did not have covid, she just got her vaccine shot) and 2 days after that I had a little sore ear and throat, felt a little as something was coming on.. but it went away after one or two days. That was the closest I have been to being sick during this pandemic.
    I wonder if she shed viruses. I think it is good because now I am immune..lol My sister too.
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  18. Inger

    Inger Silver

    I cannot believe he took the second shot... why do people do this.
    It is so crazy.
    At my sisters workplace now they are talking very openly about this shot and they regret taking it. Also the nurses who have taken only one, are not going to take the second. There have been happening a shift in consciousness. They have been starting to see the effects of the vaccine.. on themselves and their patients.
    So glad this is happening.
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  19. Penny

    Penny New Member

    I watched the high wire episode yesterday where Del Bigtree interviewed Dr. Richard Flemming - who broke down the contents of the spike protein - a nice visual - one of the components was a prion... but how this relates to what your sister said is the next segment on the program Del Bigtree talked about how the CDC is no longer going to be tallying "breakthrough" cases unless there is an associated hospitalization... in this way, the increase in covid among the vaxxed will be further hidden from the public... here is the link to the episode: Dr. Flemming is amazing... his site is flemmingmethod.com

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  20. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

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