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The drug Phenibut: Cautions to consider? Circadian rhythm?

Discussion in 'Biohacking 101' started by Nicolaj Sølvsten, Dec 14, 2016.

  1. Nicolaj Sølvsten

    Nicolaj Sølvsten New Member

    Any thoughts on the drug Phenibut? Reasons to not take it, and/or reasons to take it?

    I figured that Phenibut would be useful for trying to reduce anxiety and ultimately to reduce cortisol levels. I have used it a couple of times and experienced great sedating and calming effect, a really potent and calming experience, however, once I believe I overdosed and it caused me to have severe vomiting and I felt like shit for 2 days. I am wondering if Phenibut is a no go in terms of my health, even if I manage to dose properly?

    For example, will Phenibut effect my circ. rhythm? (I am pretty sure it does, but I guess I do not understand why.) I am not quite able to, yet, to think that independently but I am working on that by reading pretty much ALL of the vlogs: 8% covered so far.

    I am 19 years old and live in Denmark.
     
  2. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    This is a nootropic supplement that acts as a GABA-B agonist. You take it via your mouth........GABA cannot get into the brain this way therefore it is a marketing game. Don't was your time.
     
  3. Nicolaj Sølvsten

    Nicolaj Sølvsten New Member

    But, according to the product, "The addition of a phenyl ring allows phenibut to cross the blood–brain barrier." furthermore, it states: "blocker of α2δ subunit-containing voltage-gated calcium channels"
    I believe I read something from you somewhere where you explained that you urself used Calcium channel blockers. Is this true? and if so that is why, in addition to the crossing of the blood-brain barrier, I figured this product could be interesting.
     
  4. Sean L.

    Sean L. New Member

    As addictive as opiates imo. Withdrawals are brutal even after only taking it 1-2 times per week. Massive down regulation of gaba b receptors. Stop while you are ahead ;)
     
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  5. Josh Rosenthal

    Josh Rosenthal Charter member of Purple Angels Club


    for the emf laden Blood brain barrier... won't it get in? I'm not espousing it's use, just trying to account for mixed results of those supplements that people use that shouldn't cross BBB.
     
  6. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    That makes it dangerous........but you could it.......I would not.
     
  7. Nicolaj Sølvsten

    Nicolaj Sølvsten New Member

    I'm not surprised Jack Kruse and I mean that with full respect!, but I am really interested in WHY you wouldn't do it and why I feel like I should not do it when I am under its influence.
    In Russia they use it for medical reasons, just an interesting fact I think.
     
  8. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    If you don't know how a drug works you would risk you quantum computer to it?

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    Last edited: Dec 18, 2016
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  9. Nicolaj Sølvsten

    Nicolaj Sølvsten New Member

    That is why I started the thread, to learn about the effects. I haven't touched the product in a long time because I am afraid of it.
     

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