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Discussion in 'Mitochondrial Rx' started by Jack Kruse, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Ask yourself this: Is it biologically possible to predict the effects of lifetime exposure to electromagnetic, chemical, and physical agents that are not part of the biological experience of man given what we know about the butterfly effect?
    If you do not fully understand light will you ever come to realize how important water is to life?

    Evidence-based science has divorced itself from nature's evidence.

    Quantitative evidence-based science is used to remove uncertainty by transforming it into a probability for algorithms so that mathematical modeling can play the ritual role of haruspices. This epistemic governance arrangement in science is today in crisis.
    The primacy of science today is to adjudicate political issues and it is having massive collateral butterfly effects for the public health.
    They must pass through an assessment of the level of maturity and effectiveness of the various disciplines deployed. The solution implies abandoning dreams of prediction, control, and optimization obtained by relying on a limited set of simplified narratives that linear thinking scientists and clinicians can understand to define the problem and moving instead to an open exploration of a broader set of plausible and relevant stories that define the real issues at hand. #mitochondriacwisdom
  2. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    haruspices: priest in ancient Rome who used to predict the future looking at the entrails of animals. that was 4 me , thought it could help somebody else :)
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  3. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Stick around here long enough and your scrabble score redox improves!
  4. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    ok we play scrabble then!;)
  5. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    and if we dont know the answer are we allowed an ASK JACK
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  6. drezy

    drezy New Member


    If it's been covered every which way since the Quilt he might rather stick a needle in his eye!
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  7. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    I have found in my "internet guru career" those who are easily shocked about things or words I utter should be shocked more often in their life. This is why our brightest blazes of insight in life are really kindled by unexpected sparks of insight. Be unique and light people up because you are extraordinary in how you think.
  8. Jason Coates

    Jason Coates Losing the Shade.

    Hence Methylene Blue hack in 4G environment of stress - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20463399 and maybe more lemon juice in the AM.
    Protective role of methylene blue in Alzheimer's disease via mitochondria and cytochrome c oxidase.
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  9. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Ask yourself this: Is it biologically possible to predict the effects of lifetime exposure to electromagnetic, chemical, and physical agents that are not part of the biological experience of man given what we know about the butterfly effect? Well, this new blog out today gets deep into that idea. CPC # 40: THE FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE FALLACY. It is high time in 2019 to start making things happen and stop allowing things to happen to you. #mitochondriacwisdom #BlackSwanWisdom https://www.patreon.com/posts/14766611
  10. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    WHY DOES THE ENVIRONMENT DICTATE HOW A MITOCHONDRIA ACTS? Do you think sound waves have no effect on water chemistry at a biophysical level? If not, you are no Black Swan. Nature chose water to be important for living things for this very reason. It breaks the symmetry you would expect. Sound waves or acoustic phonons are controlled by magnetic fields. Speakers that make sound emit both electric and magnetic fields. Things dissolved in water, like oxygen also respond to magnetic fields. Consider oxygen: Oxygen is paramagnetic. this means it is drawn to thinks that create a magnetic field. This is why oxygen heads toward mitochondria.

    The spinning FO head of the ATPase creates a magnetic field at the subatomic level. Inside a cell, water also has a magnetic dipole effect (negative and positive ends) because of the hydrogen and oxygen that make water up. Hydrogen is + charged, and the oxygen is - charged. This creates a bar magnet effect. These physical features are what helps water networks respond to electromagnetism and waves of light.

    The addition of deuterium to water changes the magnetic effects possible in water because deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen that has a different magnetic moment than hydrogen does. This means water is not homogenous as you are lead to believe. If deuterium is subtracted out water becomes more magnetic and interacts with light in different ways. This will cause the water to react differently than if we used seawater with 155ppm of deuterium. Matter in all things, including water, fundamentally is just slowed light waves. When light slows down it becomes matter. because of Einstein's mass equivalence equation E=mc-squared, where 'C' is the speed of light. It’s all right there.

    Energy and frequency are the only predeterminants nature needs to change water's behavior in your cells.

    As the environments frequencies and power density changes so does the reaction of water in you. When you begin to realize how sunlight changes in different latitudes on Earth and in different cities because of 1G-5G footprints it should begin to make sense to you why you perform differently in differently in differing locations. Water is made at cytochrome 4 called CCO. What if that process is disrupted by the environment? Is the fidelity of the signal destroyed? Will the oscillation pattern of the inner mitochondrial membrane also change? Is this why we lose the ability to fat burn with the 100Hz oscillation needed for beta-oxidation in alien environments?

    If so......does this affect how much water is made and how that water reacts within the metabolic cycles of the cell? You bet your ass it does. This is how nnEMF is operating to make you ill way below your ability to perceive it. This video also shows you how music and sound can be used to affect your health.

  11. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    More brilliance from Jason the mitochondriac on how the water our mitochondria make from sunlight and respiration lead to Optimal or destruction based upon our choice of how we use the SPECTRUM OF LIFE POORLY OR WISELY. How you choose determines your path.
    Environment trumps age as an epigenetic driver.
    Frequent shift work results in more urination for ANY AGE because the circadian gene Rev-erbα controls the production of Cx43, which determines how much urine a bladder holds.
    TL;DR: Poor circadian rhythm = More urination = more disease = FASTER DEATH COMES = THE RELATIVITY OF TIME MODELED.
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  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    which determines how much urine a bladder holds.
    Is this more frequent urination
    larger 24hr urine output?

  13. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    My musings so far ..:).I think its both less volume and more storage at night.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3138846/ Circadian Rhythms in Urinary Functions: Possible Roles of Circadian Clocks?

    "One of the most predictable environmental changes on this rotating planet is undoubtedly the alternations of day and night, which accompany daily variations in environmental illumination, ambient temperature, humidity, and food and predator availability. Organisms that can predict, and prepare themselves in advance for, these environmental changes have selective advantages over those who cannot accommodate themselves until the changes of environment have taken place. Indeed, almost every life form on Earth displays distinct daily or circadian variations in biochemistry, physiology, pathology, and behavior."

    With a latitude with a consistent 12/12 day/night cycle, and less seasonal variation, urine production circadian rhythm might be more consistent, but at my latitude I'd expect a larger urine output over 24 hours in summer than in winter, because of behaviours linked to day length, temperature etc. In midsummer I would also expect the 16 hours of daylight to alter the timing of urine production and Cx43 compared to midwinter. I think it’s the “circa” that’s important – as day length lengthens and shortens, if I’m consistent with it, it has predictive potential. My brain isn’t just taking note of what I’m doing today, it’s following a trend.

    So my thinking is that if there is a circadian rhythm to urine production, with good circadian rhythm, I should produce less urine during the dark part of the cycle, whether that’s 8 hours or 16. Add to that the circadian rhythm of Cx43, and more bladder volume and less urine = better sleep. I would suspect there's also a tie to circadian rhythm of CSF production, which I think peaks at 2 a.m. In the winter going cold dark and boring for 10-12 hours a night, I can go over 10 hours without needing to pee, even if I drank water just before going to bed. I've recently been hacking taking an extra small amount of water in the dark before going to sleep, and I can still sleep through the night. It is the getting up and moving about in the light that seems to signal the need to pee, but I’m not busting to go IYKWIM.
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  14. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    getting up and moving about in the light that seems to signal the need to pee
    Sounds familiar.

  15. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    I think the "Organisms that can predict, and prepare themselves in advance for, these environmental changes have selective advantages over those who cannot accommodate themselves until the changes of environment have taken place" might be related to autophagy, and the feed forward loop mentioned by Jack in https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.p...egin-their-water-education.22759/#post-263468

    "One of his key goals is to design a sensitive vasopressin test for healthcare workers to use for people with circadian arrhythmia in the ER. If levels can be assessed rapidly, it could help us, doctors, to understand how the body is managing water, giving clues as to how to deal with various illnesses with blue light and nnEMF exposures.

    Until recently (2017), it was thought to only work in a classic, negative feedback loop: when we are dehydrated (bad matrix function at CCO), levels of vasopressin rise, which causes urine to become concentrated in the kidneys, freeing up more water to be used in the body. Conversely, when we have too much water in our body, vasopressin levels decrease, and urine is diluted. What if that is not all that it does?

    What if drinking water post-sunset is mandatory for the outdoor living creature?

    The Canadian research showed that mice increased water intake just before sleep. Rather than being motivated by a physiological need for water, the drinking response was solely based on the animal's circadian rhythms. <----------BIG FREAKING DEAL.

    In 2017 the same researchers found Vasopressin does more than they thought initially. They found that not only is there a vasopressin circadian feedback loop, but "it's also involved in feed-forward mechanisms. This is quite important in understanding from a chronobiologic perspective. They determined that this molecule is produced in the brain right before people go to bed WHEN IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DARK, and during sleep, in anticipation of the dehydrating effect of sleep. See during sleep autophagy is very active if you are healthy.......and when you are recycling mitochondria during autophagy you cannot make any water at CCO. What happens if you cannot make water even in the sunlight because you've lost total control of autophagy because of chronic toxic blue light and nnEMF light stress? There is only one way to repair that well. It means that we need SUNLIGHT IS MANDATORY to make water at CCO during the day. If you do not get enough or live at a high latitude and inside you need more water. If we do not get enough sunlight then we lose circadian feedback control of vasopressin and the entire water cycle in our body. So.......Dr. Boros has not thought this out well from the Black Swan perspective."



    I want enough water in the system for my brain to be able to anticipate it can follow the circadian rhythm of CSF production for the brain's glymphatic system, and that there will be enough to not compromise autophagy. I think going too low with DDW risks not entering REM sleep, so that isn't part of my hack.

    It reminds me of the mice drinking water before sleep based on circadian rhythm not physiological need. The first morning pee seems more circadian than physiological.. but that's an n=1 musing of what it seems like …:)
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