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testing subtle energy in EMF device

Discussion in 'The EMF Rx' started by Coldsnow, Jun 5, 2017.

  1. Coldsnow

    Coldsnow New Member

    Greetings, I was curious if anyone has any thoughts concerning a product a friend of
    mine is developing concerning EMF's. He's been working on a formula for 5 years in the
    form of a bio disc to mitigate the harmful biological effects of EMF. We've tested it with
    people who are acutely electro sensitive with great results and with kinesiology and dousing
    with great results. He purchased a bio well, as well, which doesn't really tell much and were
    going in to do some live blood cell analysis this week near a smart meter to see if that has
    an effect.

    I was curious if anyone has suggestions on measuring subtle energies. This isn't a shielding
    technology (which in many ways can be quite harmful), however, a technology to transmute and
    as Jack has mentioned incorporates many transition metals from Gold and Tourmaline which appear
    to have a significant effect with mood and feeling.

    http://www.goldenwave.energy/

    There is so much crap out there in this market that i'm really curious to see if this product is sound
    and have felt an affect myself, however, testing needs to be taken much deeper.

    thanks,

    James
     
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  2. Coldsnow

    Coldsnow New Member

    another interesting feature to the EMF issue is transmutation. Karim in his work with Hemburg has done some amazing
    stuff shifting the energy of this small town.

    https://www.biogeometry.ca/electrosmog-the-miracle-of-hemberg

    I think for 5G shielding isn't going to be enough and is really a shortsighted strategy.
     
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  3. mrc

    mrc Silver

    Their 'anti5G' tools keep being delayed but Dr. Karim's alchemy interview was interesting to hear on it
     
  4. Dan2

    Dan2 New Member

    link?
     
  5. mrc

    mrc Silver

  6. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    Dr Karim's Hemburg, Switzerland project was a fascinating case study in RF/MW radiation mitigation. It certainly seemed to help symptoms of people exposed to radiation in this little town.

    However, this project concluded by the mid-2000s and I have not yet seen a follow up study to examine long-term results. Did people remain symptomatically unaffected up to present day? That would be a revealing insight.

    Someone mentioned using Biokinesiology methods to measure RF/MW mitigation effectiveness using subtle energy devices and that sounds like a good start in trying to obtain reliable metrics. However, I don't suppose there are any published studies on this. We are still in the wild, wild west period of electrosmog protection.

    Bear in mind that mainstream consensus is still that 'subtle energy healing' is at best unproven, at worst pure hokum.

    Physical RF shielding materials are indeed imperfect at this juncture, and may even present some dangers. So everyone is basically on their own until we get some hard, evidence-based info are what works safely and effectively and what doesn't.

    Caveat emptor.
     
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  7. Dan2

    Dan2 New Member

    mrc, you mentioned in those posts you linked to about the Biogeometry stuff making scalar waves; this is the most reputable scalar device I know of:
    https://www.spooky2scalar.com/
    I haven't tried one myself because of the price, but there are active Facebook groups and official forums ( https://spooky2.com/forums/ ) and the people who developed it do seem to be sincerely trying to work together with the users to make a reliable scalar device, as they did before with their Rife machine ( https://www.spooky2-mall.com/ ). It seems people who've used the Spooky 2 Scalar have had some good results and also come up with some creative uses for it; that's talked about in the Facebook group. There's also a Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWHqueK4btOyJkraqCeM7xw/videos

    I have the Biogeometry Signatures book and have tried some of those and I do think they can have an effect, but I also think the management of the company regarding what information they provide and how they communicate with the users is less professional and thorough and useful than they could be, considering what Dr Karim claims to have knowledge of and what people are trying to do with it. Maybe it's because their best information is written or spoken in Arabic, maybe Karim's main focus is the information they give to Egyptians and the management of the English stuff is other people. I don't know. There are typos in the Biogeometry Signatures book that make it seem that even though it says it was edited, the person doing the editing must not have thought it was worth much time, and apparently Karim didn't read the book before it was published. It's their business and what do I know about it, but I'm skeptical about their attention to detail, at least in the way they communicate the ideas in English to the public, and so I'm not expecting the Biogeometry stuff to be useful much for 5G. If you find new information about that, I'd be interested to see what they say, though.
     
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  8. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    I'm sorry you feel Dr Karim and his Biogeometry organization are poor at communication. I don't think language is an issue-- Dr Karim and his staff seem to be quite fluent in English.

    The Biogeometry group under Dr Karim has always made training and education an integral part of what they do. They and their affiliates regularly hold training seminars in USA for students who want to become certified experts in Biogeometry and subtle energy sciences.

    One training site in US is Vesica Institute, run by Dr Robert Gilbert (a 'disciple' of Dr Karim). It offers online courses in Biogeometry and allied disciplines. You might want to check that one out (they also have some training YT videos available for free viewing).
     
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  9. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    There are indeed a lot of questionable EMF protective products on market (some may work and others are for the gullible ones with extra money to spend).

    If there is effective and safe protection gadgetry they surely work in poorly understood ways to 'treat' incoming harmful radiation so body can cope better initially, at least as far as symptoms go.

    Only a fool would rely on these devices as a license to freely go about in this dangerous electrosmogged world-- to go ahead using wi-fry with abandon, living next to antennae and towers, using cell phone and tablets all day long.

    So think of them just as treatment aids for palliative care when under siege in this 5G toxic world. The assault on you and your loved ones continues unabated no matter how many subtle energy gadgets you place around you--- you have to practice strict prudent avoidance and where necessary, aggressive shielding that is measurable.
     
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  10. mrc

    mrc Silver

    Spooky2 did catch my attention but i got so lost in the technical aspects I left it by the way side but do consider it legitimate & am glad there are forums to refine its use.
    1 of Biogeo's best forums can help w/what you are looking for where i've found lots of answers, ideas, intrigue
    Happy hunting on what suits you best
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/143735172365441/
    1 of their members fusing Dr. Kruse's work with biogeo
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2291317554513342

    I'm playing w/Russian pvc pipe pyramids thats helped w/sleep, dreaming so far.
    I'll post in the cave if deeper practical results are consistent
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKXZH0_An1AlC_-9889djHQ/videos
    Russia is making a city of pyramids & Valery Uvarov's done extensive successful work w/these angles in improving health who's easy enough to find in social media
     
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  11. Sun Disciple

    Sun Disciple AKA Paul...That Call Drop'n Canadian

    Im wary of all the emf devices that are emitting signals. Biogeometry does not emit anything. They are harmonizing with subtle energy qualities found in nature. Biosignatures for example uses your bodies own frequencies to activate them. The electromagnetic frequencies from modern tech are not the only danger we face from them. They also cause compression waves as a a secondary affect which is also messing with us. These scalar devices are using theses compression waves as well. I dont think we know what were messing with so im avoiding.
     
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  12. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    Those large Russian fiberglass pyramids (popularized by Alexander Golod) use steeper side angles than traditional Great Pyramid at Giza pyramids. Their energy power is said to be increased thusly.

    Ironically, the famous 150 foot high Golod fiberglass healing pyramid near Moscow was destroyed in a wind storm in 2017.

    Right now I have an array of 4, foot-high cardboard Golod pyramids under my cot as an experiment.
     
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  13. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    Indeed. We are like little children in our lack of comprehension of these energies.

    There is a myth that a that a highly advanced civilization (Atlantis?) was destroyed by misuse of a great energy source.

    I feel we are following in their footsteps towards destruction by misuse of electricity in form of ever-pervasive and invasive microwave radiation (forget nuclear devastation, globull warming, and other doom porn).
     
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  14. Sun Disciple

    Sun Disciple AKA Paul...That Call Drop'n Canadian

    Im also wary of pyramids and sitting under them for long periods of time. The ancient structures were built in a way to amplify earth energies so they built them on power spots over lay line crossings or underground water crossings that were beneficial to their aims. There are power spots known as cancer crossings which are detrimental to ones health you dont want to amplify that or nnemf by a pyramid that is not constructed and placed properly.They can have a dehydrating effect similar to nnEMFs as well great for preserving dead bodies though.
     
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  15. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    @ElectricUniverse
    little children in our lack of comprehension of these energies.
    ==================================

    So every doctor is thought in school that we make metabolic water.
    250 to 350ml/day for sedentary persons
    https://www.hydrationforhealth.com/...hysiological-basis-adults/#body-water-balance
    =========================================================
    that is 0.35 liters daily at rest

    all kind of theories can be built around that number

    but those theories will have to be (majorly) adjusted is someone (like dr Boros) figures out that actually, we make 7000+ liters of brand new water daily while at rest.

    With 0.35 liters daily, real-time solar energy at ground level is somewhat at par with energy created from water synthesis, moving to tropical areas can make some difference.

    With 7000+ liters/day, solar energy is not even a factor.
    Information from solar rays, yes.

    With 7000+ liters/day, I have a question where that energy is coming from on a long term basis?
    chlorophyl and mitochondria are connected

    7000+liters a day, say, that is to run 200# of eucaryotes flesh (one person or animal).
    How many tonnes of working chlorophyl there must be to support 200# of eucaryotes flesh?
    At what point there will be too many eukaryotes on earth?

    Eukaryotes are heavy-duty gas guzzlers.
    Somebody, something is missing on that energy.
    It is not coming to earth in real-time; it is taken from resources accumulated over millions of years.
    That energy will not last forever.


    Do you see where this synthesizing 7000+liters of water go?
    Extinction, and not even from EMF may be in the cards.
    And EMF was not even considered to raise this point.

    ///
    H2O
    1*2+16*1=18
    Each 18kg of water have 2kg hydrogen
    7437/9=826
    We are burning 826kg of hydrogen daily, when at rest
    3x that much if we must.

    //////////////////
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2019
  16. Bob Stirling

    Bob Stirling New Member

    @JanSz I have noticed that whenever you pose this question there is a deafening silence!
     
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  17. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

  18. Bob Stirling

    Bob Stirling New Member

    I feel you are bang on with your observations. I would add that the end user is interacting more and more with AI, being led hour by hour, day by day and becoming more stuck in the mind.
     
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  19. ElectricUniverse

    ElectricUniverse New Member

    Lena Pu among others has surmised, and I am beginning to agree with this idea, that 5G deployment is part of overall IoT (Internet of Things) agenda-- to wit, 5G/wireless will not only connect with inanimate objects (devices, appliances, vehicles, etc) but also animate objects like humans and animals.

    These new phenomenally higher frequencies proposed in 5G wireless toolkit have the distinct possibility to alter and control mass human behavior if misused.

    Suicides, docile temperament, depression, homicidal anger-- what behaviors could be pulled on our little puppet strings by overlords? Wait and see.
     
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  20. drezy

    drezy Gold

    I fixed that for you.
     

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