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Tensegrity and Redox......

Discussion in 'Redox Rx' started by Jack Kruse, Sep 4, 2022.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Diabetics can be fat or skinny but both have leptin resistance. Can you explain why their body phenotype varies from skinny to fat?

    What causes low potassium levels in diabetics?

    Low Potassium Levels are common in Type 1 Diabetes when it is tested.

    Low potassium levels are associated with a complication of Type 1 diabetes, called diabetic ketoacidosis. It is a condition in which your body does not make enough insulin to transport glucose into the cells, so the body uses fat as an energy source.

    Type 1 Diabetics tend to be skinny & thin.

    Now, what about type 2 diabetics?

    The Link Between Potassium and Type 2 Diabetes is nuanced

    In type 2 diabetics, Potassium is generally stored in the fluid inside of the cells, but when there's too much glucose outside of the cells in the plasma (blood sugar is too high), potassium moves OUTSIDE of the cell, raising potassium levels in the blood in type 2 diabetics. When K+ moves out of the cell so does cell water. This is why type 2 diabetics urinate so much. They are getting rid of the water they no longer can structure due to their mitochondrial power loss. This K+ ion difference is a different electronic situation than we see in type 1 diabetics. Tell me now my Black Swans mitochondriacs, what do the different movements of K+ have to do with the physiologic action of water inside your cells made in mitochondria at cytochrome C oxidase? How does this effect your biological clocks in the SCN?

    What is the stoichiometry of K+ to water in mitochondria in your SCN that is working fine in a healthy state of redox power between -300mV to -400Mv in your mitochondria?

    Experiments by Ling et al. have shown in healthy cells that each molecule of ATP in a cell controls 8,800 water molecule binding sites and 20 potassium ions to allow water to become structured inside every cell of your body. As redox varies so does the K+ concentration and # of water molecules created by mitochondria. Melatonin, NAD+, CO2 all vary in the same way as potassium does to redox power inside a cell. Environments change redox power by varying the charge density of the hydrogen bonds in water that mitochondria create.

    Diabetics never have redox power of -300-400Mv. They fall way short of this power. This alters how K+ operates inside the cell.

    When their K+ levels are too low, their pancreas makes less insulin. Did you know that? Might the level of insulin made have something to do with if they are skinny or fat? When insulin varies so does blood sugar.

    Insulin is also a solar hormone. Did you know this?

    Does glucose change the charge density of RBCs in blood plasma? Does this change their optics? Studies show that people with low potassium levels release less insulin (less sun), have higher blood sugar levels, and are more likely to get type 2 diabetes than those with normal potassium levels. Did you know that?

    Potassium, both serum levels and to a lesser extent dietary intake levels, has been associated with incident diabetes. Lower levels of potassium have been found to be associated with a higher risk of diabetes. Few seem to understand how this links to biological clock function in humans........Do you yet?

    As one gets fat/larger, Leptin levels rise in blood. What happens inside cells? Once they get high enough (around a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 20-24), Tumor Necrosis Factor (TNF) rises in several tissues. This also causes a rise of NF kappa beta and IL-6 in the brain. TNF quickly destroys normal hepatic (liver) homeostasis, which sets the stage for fatty liver disease and type two diabetes over time. This rise in TNF also biochemically changes Leptin receptor signaling and changes its quantum properties by changing its “resonance” (think of a vibration-like effect in the receptor) at the hypothalamus level. Once TNF rises, it causes the liver to make an acute phase inflammatory protein called hsCRP.

    hsCRP is an inflammatory marker. hsCRP = Inflammation

    inflammation = too many protons chasing too few electrons which inhibit the structuring of water in cells by K+ = low pH = fewer electrons being delocalized in water networks on a relative basis = lowered charge density on K+ = decreases the structured water in cells and alters hydrogen bonds in cell water = which allows respiratory proteins to spread apart = lower probability of tunneling electrons and protons = less energy made by mitochondria = less water, melatonin, NAD+ in mitochondria = pseudohypoxia = higher % heteroplasmy = emergence or disease phenotype = no nuclear gene change required to cause disease = leptin is an electron & photon light accountant protein for redox strength = leptin resistance is a lack of electrons/sunlight and too many protons. Simple.
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  2. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    You can do whatever you want, but I wonder when you are going to put all my lessons together?

    Do you think it is wise to have a chronic tan induced pharmacologically that reduces how much sun you can get due to melanin biology to alter the hydrogen bonds in your cell water when you are an old guy who is from high latitude Poland?

    Do I really need to answer this?

    Is this the reason I do not answer a lot of questions when the answers should be blatantly obvious?
  3. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    @Jack Kruse

    I got so much attention from you.

    Thank you very very much.

    I still have not got the number for

    How much (liters or kilograms) matrix water healthy human goes thru over 24hrs?

    I was expecting what you will say about melanonan-2 (MT-2) and you did.

    Personally, I do not think I am diabetic.

    Triglycerides –111 (a year ago was) 140

    HgA1c=5.6 (a year ago was 5.7

    Fasting insulin-4.7 (a year ago was ) 5.9

    Fasting glucose—114 (a year ago was) 115

    But whatever I do, I still have fasting glucose too high
    I mostly eat once a day. (Prolactin, homocysteine, TNF-a ok)

    About potassium.

    I always have good potassium levels on CBC tests.

    Potassium—4.3 (a year ago was) 4.2

    Then last year I was able to get

    Potassium RBC—it was right on the low laboratory range

    This year phlebotomist messed up, and no results

    Because on my rather low potassium RBC I started taking potassium bicarbonate.

    I feel great about taking it.

    A the least, after decades of problems, it takes care of my GERD.

    And I think it is doing it the natural way. Belching after taking it.

    There is literature holding that way back then our ancestors ate huge amounts of potassium.

    So much that even eating nothing but bananas we would still be short of potassium.

    Add to that diabetic losing potassium (like you described) and is not pretty at all.


    About diabetics, skinny or fat.

    It looks to me as the most important fat that we should control is visceral fat.

    That is why I started my questioning with:

    How to lose visceral fat?

    Thank you again for your attention.
    Thank you for keeping this great site.

    Last edited: Sep 15, 2022
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  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    So now that you know about how potassium and water operate in a quantum coherent fashion add this new data to your brain.

    Rhythmic potassium transport regulates the circadian clock in human red blood cells.

    ^^^^Read it again.

    everyone who reads this thread should know why K+ = and the circadian mechanism are linked = waters hydrogen bonds

    They said:
    "Because RBCs constitute the most abundant cell type in the human body, and have a vital function, it will be important to establish the physiological significance of circadian regulation of RBC ion transport, and whether its disruption has any pathophysiological consequence. For example, RBCs play an essential role in transporting CO2 from tissues to the lungs, which in turn is dependent upon the activity of the Band 3 bicarbonate transporter (SLC4A1) whose activity is sensitive to membrane potential. It should now be tested whether circadian regulation of RBC membrane physiology affects RBC CO2-carrying potential. Likewise, circadian rhythms in RBCs may be an unexplored factor contributing to the strong diurnal pattern to the onset of myocardial infarction and other adverse events of the cardiovascular system"

    Diabtics and hypothyroid people have more MIs than most other patients = lack of sun.
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  5. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    recall from my post above:
    Last year my
    Potassium RBC— was right on the low laboratory range
    The serum potassium is always ok

    Whatever good thing potassium does
    it has to be there to do that work.
    If our bodies expect our food to be high in potassium, and we actually eat low potassium diet
    what remedy are you proposing (other than more sun)?
    Aging is Not a Disease, Damn It! | Page 10 | Jack Kruse Optimal Health Forum

    Following text there I figured that our bodies expect
    amount of potassium daily contained in 7.4 teaspoons of potassium bicarbonate.
    I am eating two teaspoons and seeing a lots of positive changes.

    You said:
    ....people have more MIs than....

    what is: MIs

    Last edited: Sep 16, 2022
  6. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    About skinny diabetics.
    I think there are likely two types of them.
    Those who eat animals and seafood, let's call them Europeans.
    And Asians and Orientals who by religion or just lack of food, newer ate animals or seafood.
    Both types may be overall skinny but have enlarged bellies.
    high fructose and vegetable oils are likely created all these skinny diabetics in India when previously there were none.

    Initially, I was trying to talk to you about Asian and Orientals.

    But thank you for steering it toward my personal needs.

  7. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    A single cell uses about 10 million ATP molecules per second and recycles all of its ATP molecules about every 20-30 seconds.
    Two molecules of water are produced as O2 is reduced in the electron transport chain and accepts hydrogen ions. 3.4 H+ causes one spin of the Fo head to make 1 ATP.
    The average adult human with a typical weight of 70 kilograms thus consumes approximately 69 kilograms of ATP per day, which equals nearly the amount of his or her own body weight. That tells you, that your body is designed to constantly turn over the water in the cytosolic and matrix space greater than your own body weight per day. Do you still think water and the hydrogen bonds it creates as unimportant in life or health? If you do, you are someone to ignore.
    The energy used by human cells requires the hydrolysis of 100 to 150 moles of ATP daily which is around 50 to 75 kg. Typically, a human will use up their body weight of ATP over the course of the day. This means that each ATP molecule is recycled 1000 to 1500 times during a single day (100 / 0.1 = 1000).
  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Please, I am not ignoring anything. Even when it is over my head, I am convinced of its importance.
    I am just concentrating on one important item, the amount of energy a healthy body uses, and trying to figure it out in kWh per day.

    turn over the water
    means synthesizing H & O
    that water is broken again, decomposed into separate H and separate O.

    synthesizing H & O is called burning, it releases heat/energy, and decomposition uses energy
    eventually, it is a cycle
    I just want to figure out that energy flow at one point in the cycle.
    Over 24hrs we are burning enough hydrogen that body weight of water is created. Maybe little more.
    That is much much less than what dr Boros said.
    But offhand your values look much more realistic than his.

    1 H2
    16 O
    18 kilo of water has (2/18)=9 kilo of hydrogen in it

    When one kilogram of hydrogen is burned it releases 33920 kcal/kg
    860 kcal=1kW

    Assume body weight 72 kg
    that is also the amount of water
    constantly turn over the water in the cytosolic and matrix space

    72/9= 8 kg amount of hydrogen in bodyweight of water
    9*33920/860=315.5 kW over one 24hr day (is released when water is synthesized)

    over one hour that is 315.5/24=13 kW

    Let's think of a healthy person as a 13 kw electric motor running at full load all the time.
    1kW=1.341022 HP
    13* 1.341022=17.6 HP

    Let's think of a healthy person consuming power of 17.6 horses

    This energy has more to do with the oxygen we are breathing than the food we eat.


    I think the above may be somewhat correct.
    but that means
    that eukaryotes are consuming tremendous amounts of Earth's resources.
    That amount is extremely higher than any sunlight energy coming to Earth in real-time and operating on that person.

    Last edited: Sep 16, 2022
  9. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    A child's body weight is 80% water. It replaces that water every day.

    A 50 yr old body weight is around 55%. They replace it every day. The drop from 80 to 55% is due to a higher heteroplasmy rate.

    Any disease that causes us to lower energy = a further decline in creating water in the matrix
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  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Above I calculated assuming 100% of body weight water is replaced.
    If it is 55%
    then the 13 kW becomes:
    0.55*13=7.15 kW

    An adult person is using 24/7/365 energy equal to the energy used by a 7 kW fully loaded electric motor.

    and we are using 2500calories of food
    2500 Calories per hour = 2.9075 Watts=0.0029 kW

    Food almost does not count.
    Same with energy from sunlight.
    The energy that we use to live comes mostly from breath and hydrogen.

    That is to say, we are using earth's resources that are finite.

  11. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Now you understand my words about food. This makes me happy.
  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Thank you. I am happy too.
    Why are you not protesting about the 7 kW I came up with?
    Why are you not protesting about sunlight energy received by person?

    That is maybe less than 0.5 kW over average day in the best theoretical situation.
    So, also very small fractional part of all energy person uses daily (if he uses 7 kW).
    Data.GISS: Insolation at Specified Location (nasa.gov)

    insolation (INcoming SOLar radiATION). Insolation levels represent daily average solar energy. They are usually expressed in kilowatt-hours per square meter per day (kW-hr/m2/day)
    average density of Sun's irradiance at the top Earth's atmosphere on an imaginary surface
    perpendicular to the sunlight rays and it's value is approximately 1366 watt per square meter
    if we take the amount of sunlight power that reaches our atmosphere and average it over
    entire Earth's surface, we'll get ¼ of solar constant, which is about 341 W/sq.m.
    Now, about 29% of this amount is reflected back to space, 23% is absorbed in the
    atmosphere, and 48% reaches the surface. Thus, an average amount of sunlight received at
    the Earth surface per square meter is 341×0.48=163 W/sq.m, or 15 watt per square foot.
    Note that this is the value averaged over the entire surface of the planet.
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  13. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Protest? I see no protest
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  14. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Maybe in your head, but not mine.
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