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Supplementing light

Discussion in 'Beginners Area' started by jeff taylor, Oct 14, 2018.

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  1. jeff taylor

    jeff taylor New Member

    So I am starting on my own personal N=1 journey. I am realatively healthy so I am looking for optimization. My diet is good, high in seafood, low in garbage. I drink at least 2 liters of high quality water per day. I have a magnetic bed cover on order. Been bathing in sun this summer, but as we enter fall and winter a question arises that has likley been gone over many times here. what is the best way to supplement light. Here is what my plan is and I am interested in feedback and thoughts

    1) I am considering getting a led red light panel, body sized (probably joovv) and using 10 min/day
    2) In looking at Jack's work, it seems to me that this needs to be balanced with the right amount of UVA and UVB to optimize. My thinking is that we can use the sun to estimate how much one should be getting based on the amount of red light. (my understanding is that Red light is 41% of the equation, not sure about UV) Very interested on peoples thoughts on this, as I suspect getting this ratio correct is the key to not making one sick.
    3) I plan to get to Hawaii 2x this winter to get as much natural sunlight as possible.
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  2. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    use the sun as your supplement
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  3. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    That sounds as if you wish, you could drink more.

    Your body is able to make all the water it thinks that it needs.

    That would be extremely high quality water.
    That water is mad within mitochondria in the matrix.
    Production of that water would result with additional energy being available.
    Same energy that you get when you get when you take your clothes off an expose your self to sunlight.

    If you consume excess water you are depriving your self of that sunlight.

    Under-drinking is beneficial.
    Specially when having excess weight.

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  4. Bonnie

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  5. Bonnie

    Bonnie Gold

    Ok. Really interested in this. I am A Silver Member. Every time I see Jack I webinars and such he is holding Pelligrino. I am also drinking at least a litre. And some organic Earl Grey unsweetened ice tea. I thought lots of water was beneficial. I live in Calgary Alberta. So not tons of sunlight but lots of CT and early morning walks. I am so confused now
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  6. Bonnie

    Bonnie Gold

    Also Janz. I am overweight, so under drinking is beneficial?
  7. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    I think there's a lot more to it and that its significant that under drinking isn't part of the leptin reset. If I look at the extremes of the animal kingdom such as the camel. The camel can go days with making enough water from it's hump fat, but its kidneys and gut etc are adapted to recycle that water far more than humans. It will also drink a massive amount of (deuterium loaded) water when it next gets a chance. The other thing is that the camel is able to burn fat to make metabolic water .. One of the problems of obesity is the level of efficiency someone has to burn stored fat. Less efficiency = less metabolic water production. I think it could potentially screw up my circadian rhythm of ADH. My n=1 "sufficient" water varies seasonally and with what I'm doing, my environment etc. I think in the wrong context under drinking could potentially lead to thermoregulation and sweating problems, constipation, brain fog etc. It could also impact sleep. I've still got weight to lose, progress is slow, but under drinking is not something I'd attempt without understanding the wider issues in relation to my n=1. :)
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  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I thought lots of water was beneficial.

    That is basic truth.
    We run on water.
    Scorpions, camels, polar bears, humans run on water
    repairs take energy

    There are two sources of energy.
    1-comming directly from sun (max at equator, gradually less at the polls)
    2-comming indirectly from sun (synthesis of H + O to create water have energy as a by-product)

    under-drinking is not normal function
    it requires paying attention to ADH (Anti-Diuretic-Hormone),
    otherwise thirst will make you drink

  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    that water
    is exactly the same as drinking water from a glass
    was different (H3O2 or some such) at the time of its creation in the matrix of mitochondria
    after it traveled thru the body and reached bladder, it became indistinguishable from (H2O) water that originated from drinking.
    matrix water have 105ppm (D/H) (as told by Boros in that 4 hr video)
    drinking water have (usually) 150ppm
    so there still is advantage to make arrangements to increase matrix water participation.

    dose makes poison
    send Polar Bear to equator (with all the fat seals he will be eating there)
    and Polar Bear will die there from excess energy.

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  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Wonder how ADH is regulated?
    Thirst is likely major input
    during sleep (I think) ADH is likely on a raise (so as to not interrupt the sleep).

    @Jack Kruse
  11. jeff taylor

    jeff taylor New Member

    Interesting. I did not intend to start debate about water consumption. That said, I am in the camp that more water is better. But I agree that you can drink too much. My point with my water intake is that I have adequate amount. What I am really interested in is how to practically get enough quantum yield from the southern oregon sunshine in winter, while still working. This seems tricky. I am thinking that our population here would need to supplement somehow. Jack's response to supplement sunshine is ideal, but my understanding is there is almost no UV here after the equanox. So...
  12. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Here is the picture explanation of redox 101.

    Remember what do the colony of mitochondria in you make when they are in the sun? CO2 and water. Is the water special they make? Yep. When it comes to the sun........get as close to her power as possible. When it comes to all other radiations on EARTH get as far away from them as possible. That is why doctors wear lead with Xrays when they have to be too close to the Xray machine. So for the sun.......moving from a high latitude to a low latitude is all one needs to do to get well. Every cell in your body is optimized to the solar radiations and no other parts of the spectrum. It is that simple. Why is this so hard for you all to get?
  13. DrEttinger

    DrEttinger Choice, the only thing we control

    Q: What is the furthest north in latitude that would still be considered healthy from the perspective of proper sun exposure? In Orange County, CA we are at 33.8 degrees.
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  14. drezy

    drezy New Member

    That may be worth reframing with a haplotype and current redox status. Still it may be a pretty wide open question.
  15. DrEttinger

    DrEttinger Choice, the only thing we control

    I doubt even 5% on this forum know their status. I'm sure there is a simple answer to that question. How about this, "If you're not well don't move to Alaska, move to the Yucatan Peninsula. I'm sure there is a latitude too north to promote optimal health for someone not well and there is a latitude far enough south which would support someone who is not well.
  16. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    I hope you realize this question is poor........unless you understand the EMF stimulus around the colony of mitochondria youre asking about.
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  17. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator


    Redox Rx 1 and 2 blogs can make the non black swan wise fast. Adding Patreon to the mix can make the moron wise quick.
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  18. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Well you did and it was good considering what has followed here..........
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  19. DrEttinger

    DrEttinger Choice, the only thing we control

    Then why such a generalized statement if the information needed to get to that conclusion requires a detailed assessment of one's mitochondrial EMF stimulation and Redox status?

    "So for the sun.......moving from a high latitude to a low latitude is all one needs to do to get well. Every cell in your body is optimized to the solar radiations and no other parts of the spectrum. It is that simple. Why is this so hard for you all to get?"
  20. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    That is why I do educational consults.......EVERYONE's REDOX is a N= 1 game.
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