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Sluggish liver.... I think?

Discussion in 'The Leptin Rx' started by Aerose91, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. Aerose91

    Aerose91 New Member

    I'm going back to the Leptin reset, largely because I believe I have problems with my liver. Dr Kruse says that this should improve gluconogenesis in the liver and that's my hope. However, I think ive had liver issues my whole life...

    When in my early 20's I had a lot of trouble drinking. I never did often, once a month or so, but when I did I would have horrible hangovers for at least 2 days. Very ill.

    Nowadays, the skin on my fingers, toes and fingernails has turned brown. I don't know for sure if this is tied to liver but it gets worse if I eat foods high in saturated fat.

    Most annoyingly- no matter how tired I am or when I fall asleep I get rocked awake between 2-2:30 every night. Anxiety, sweats, adrenalin. The only thing that quells it is eating. I know the chinese circadian clock says that liver is emphasized between 1-3 am so that feels significant to me.

    Also, I get pain in the upper right quadrant of my abdomen whenever I eat any fat. I'm thinking this is gallbladder.

    I know Dr Kruse has said that the liver is the gatekeeper for gut health and i believe it's been an issue for me my whole life. I would love to figure out the underlying issue and how I can solve a sluggish liver. I appreciate any suggestions
  2. Inger

    Inger Silver

    your skin turning brown? Hmmm.. could this be from iron overload? That can color skin bronze. I have gotten a brown discoloration too on a certain part of my body from iron I guess. Not telling where..lol
    Liver and gallbladder issues also can be from too much iron. Please check your iron labs ASAP if you have not before. It is great to rule out that issue, and easy to solve if it is iron overload.

    Have you had an iron panel lately?
  3. Aerose91

    Aerose91 New Member

    Hmmm, no I haven't. I've had some regular blood work done but that's about it. Every time I have blood work my ferritin comes back high but no doc has ever said much about it.
  4. Inger

    Inger Silver

    No doctor has reacted to high ferritine? This is very sad.
    But truth is many doctors are un-aware of the dangers of iron overload. Mine was too.

    You need to start donating blood ASAP. Get a iron panel too. If your iron is very high you will get phlebotomies and the iron will get down faster, which is important. Excess iron is very dangerous long term.

    This could be the reason to your issues that do not resolve!!! It is very possible.
    So it is a good thing too, because now you have hope :) :) :)

    This is what you can do additionally to lower your iron:
    Stop eating any red meat, organs, or mussels or shrimps. Start eating tons of fish. Try if you tolerate high omega 3, if not then do the leaner fish like cod, pollack etc. (I seems to tolerate tons of omega3 so I eat lots of fatty fish too). Also eggyolks, raw if possible. It helps heal your liver and gallbladder too.
    Drink green tea with meals, it hinders iron uptake to a great degree.
    Take IP6. It is a iron chelator. Read up about it.
    Get a book about the iron overload/disorder to help you manage the issue and heal yourself :)
    Here is one, there are several out there. This one you can read for free at least the beginning. Great info there :)

    https://books.google.de/books?hl=en&lr=&id=cVg0tAwOCRwC&oi=fnd&pg=PA3&dq=jym+moon+iron+the+most+toxic+element&ots=vA6n88M8U_&sig=YdQWIFShZNqfhx6OAWo48Bs4Od0&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=jym moon iron the most toxic element&f=false

    I have these two books;



    This I wanted to buy too but have not yet.

    Last edited: Jun 10, 2020
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  5. Aerose91

    Aerose91 New Member

    Is iron overload a genetic issue? Or is it something metabolic that can be addressed and reversed?

    Thanks for the information
  6. Aerose91

    Aerose91 New Member

    Actually I have to get bloodwork today and I just checked and it has an iron panel on it. Plus hemoglobin and ferritin. Would that show it if there is an iron overload?
  7. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Yes, iron panel, feritin and HB are all great to check. Ferritin and iron panel are a must, to rule out iron overload.

    Iron overload can be genetic or food related.
    Mine is food related.. but many people have genetic mutations that make them store way too much iron. It is very common.
    I have read that ancestral people often had rituals with blood letting. Now I know why. If they ate a meat based diet they would otherwise have gotten way too much iron in their body, as the body has no way of getting rid of heme Iron, except menstruation and childbirth. Bleeding.

    If you eat fish this is not an issue because fish does not have much Heme iron at all.
    Non heme iron is not the issue, Heme iron is. Non heme iron will not get absorbed into the body if you already have enough iron. Heme iron will.

    It is fascinating to learn about iron and the human body :) :)
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  8. Inger

    Inger Silver

    You cant reverse the genetic mutation but it is easy to live with and will not cause you any issues when you just donate blood regularly. And avoid red meat.

    Metabolic.. well if there are issues with the liver it could cause issues with iron too because it is the liver who regulates the iron uptake. It is very complicated and fascinating. Many things matter.
    But it is not hard to reverse the issue.
    Donate blood, take good care of your liver, avoid red meat, eat tons of fish, tons of sun, avoid nnEMF etc. :) and it will heal itself :)

    I bet too much iron in the body will make one way more sensible to nnEMF too!
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  9. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Let me know what your results are when you get them, Ok?
  10. Aerose91

    Aerose91 New Member

    Thanks for all the input, Inger. I'm anxious to get these blood results back. It's been so many years and I've had little if any improvement, I look forward to addressing whatever this problem is. I'm definitely on point with the sun, lack of nnEMF and tons of fish. Plus, I do 6-8 eaw egg yolks per day. I do, however eat a fair amount of oysters, liver and red meat (I use the meat off the bones from the bone broth I make). Hopefully this lab will be sufficient to give me an idea.

    One last question- would high iron lead to high ferritin? Or would that drive it lower
  11. Inger

    Inger Silver

    well mostly when you have iron overload you have high ferritin.
    It is a pretty valid marker for iron overload.
    But of course there might be other reasons too.
    High ferritin CAN be a marker for certain other conditions too, like inflammation I think.
    And you can have iron overload and not so high ferritin too.. when the iron is loaded in your organs.. so you might have pretty normal ferritin and still way too much iron. But such situations are not common. There are exceptions to the rule for everything I guess ;)

    Commonly, high ferritin also means iron overload.
    Ferritin is a sort of "holder and transporter of iron". Keeps free iron out of the blood . Too much free iron is very dangerous, so the body does anything to keep it bound... to ferritin.

    Oysters sadly have pretty high iron, which would normally not be an issue because it is wonderfully balanced with copper and zink, but if you do have severe iron overload, I would limit oysters for a while until it comes down. Mussels have more than double the amount of iron that oysters! Avoid mussels if iron overload. Shrimp too. But do tons of fish. No red meat. Porkl is better, pork has way less iron that red meat. Even less than oysters.
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