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Seeking Transformation: Ravi's Journal

Discussion in 'My Optimal Journal' started by Ravi Sandhu, Mar 21, 2021.

  1. JanSz

    JanSz Gold





     
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  2. Thanks Jan for the help here!

    I will definitely keep diving in and find a solution.

    I think at this time I should be clear my focus is on restoring sex drive.

    There was a day where it felt like it may be coming back but it has been super low since.

    I have been on 22 dates! And all of them told me they were not feeling any connection. Truth is, neither was I. I couldn't feel any attraction.

    It's tough. I have been eating quite a lot calorie diet for some time, trying to lose weight.

    It may be that this has just stressed my system far too hard and sex drive is shutting down.

    I will work on destressing, eating more, and will be more consistent with sunrise, CT, and DHA.

    Otherwise, I will watch these videos provided by Jan.

    Ravi
     
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  3. I did drop fat and my body composition is improving

    But sadly I am feeling like a robot with no sexual desire whatsoever

    Needs work
     

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  4. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Ravi said:
    I think at this time I should be clear my focus is on restoring sex drive.
    -------------------------------
    If there is only one indicator about your health
    your ability to procreate (many females) is the one.

    The culture developed where one man lives with one woman, so I do not advice you to do that, but I am talking about ability.
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    Have you had a sex and orgasm with all of that 22?

    You are talking low oxytocin.
    Try it, the oxytocin spray, let me know.
    I do not know how to raise it in natural way.
    (Lots of sunlight newer hurts).
    Try to have sex dates in the mid day, sunny day preferred, open windows, all naked, no covers, so you can see all that interest you at the moment. Visual is important.
    Right on the beach would be ideal.

    I have not used oxytocin.
    I think you should do one spray into your mouth, then it should work on you.
    How quick it is before you feel the reaction, I do not know.
    If you want to help a girl to feel more comfortable with you, spray it on your skin, in the area where you expect her nose would be.
    Make sure the girl is willing to begin with. (Before you start oxytocin.)
    You are heavy duty pretty man. There is plenty of willing girls. No rush.
    Make sure that you are not even close to forcing.
    Right before, ask her twice if that is what she wants.
    You must oblige her in the last second.
    There are funny girls around, keep that in mind.


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  5. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Post your

    IGF-1
    IGF-BP3

    ...................
     
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  6. Oh I must clarify: the 22 dates (now 23) were purely conversation, nothing physical happened, and I am looking for something serious with one woman.

    Unless she is going to be a good fit for me, I typically abstain from sex. I have had sex with 1 woman my whole life and that was literally in January of this year when I posted.

    She dated me for a while and then I deleted all the dating apps. But then when we had sex for the 3rd time, I could not get an erection, and she didn't bother with me again from there!

    But for this, I will need to revitalise sexual energy. It is not really there at this time.

    I will review your post Jan and take actions outlined.

    Ravi
     
  7. Haha thanks Jan, remember when I joined this forum I was obese, I was 250lbs for 3-4 years! And I looked terrible.

    My looks have improved now. I am glad.

    But obviously we're going for OPTIMAL.

    Dr Ettinger has given some great advice also on building an overall aesthetic body, learned some great stuff, in particular he advised the ab wheel to really tighten up the mid section. I'm loving it.

    Ravi
     
  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    When you are doing your research or questioning anybody,
    think of a way of how to raise oxytocin naturally.
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    As far as I know, your testosterone is on the low side, you are lucky to get it up 2x, third time you re pushing.
    #1, it is all about you. Make sure that this is not bothering you.
    ----

    There were two bulls on the pasture. Young and old. Lots of cows.
    The young said, hey do you see that pretty one there, lets go, quick.
    The old said, take it easy, go slow, do them all.

    ................
     
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  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Ravi;
    Watch this coming PowWow. I asked Jack two questions.
    Hopefully he will have a time to answer it in a way that may have a practical information for the both of us (especially considering my Hayflick limit situation that he alluded to previously).

    Two questions:
    How to raise oxytocin naturally?
    How to raise oxytocin using (what)?


    @Jack Kruse
    @DrEttinger

    March 2022 Live Q&A
    Date: Sunday, March 27, 2022
    Time: 3:00 p.m. CT


    ........

    The Hayflick limit is the limit on cell replication imposed by the shortening of telomeres with each division.

    Wonder how much use I could have from testing my telomeres.
    I did it once some years ago.
    Now am getting ready for my next Spectracell test.
    Spectracel checks telomeres.
    But first would be (usefull) to know if I cold arrange any preventive moves (that actually works).
    .
     
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  10. Dan2

    Dan2 Pedantic schlub

    @JanSz

    Telomeres
    "But first would be (usefull) to know if I cold arrange any preventive moves (that actually works)."

    Epitalon, also called Epithalamin

    (2nd section)
    https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/dan2s-journal.25288/page-5#post-295571

    [about people cycling Epitalon] "...one aspect that was studied was telomeres and they saw between 16% and 33% increase in telomere length, and remember, this is 70 to 90 year old people; they had like eight times the improvement in physical performance activities; and they had subjective well-being improvements in these groups..."


    Dr. Vladimir Khavinson's publications
    https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/dan2s-journal.25288/page-5#post-295728


    https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/dan2s-journal.25288/page-5#post-296114

    Excerpt from that post where Epitalon is mentioned:
    "One other thing: in the Khavinson studies, when it says they were using Epitalon and Thymalin at the same time, it doesn't mean they were using them at the same time; it could be you use Epitalon for three weeks, three months after you use the Thymalin, three months after you use the Epitalon again, and you rotate like that. It just meant taken at the same time in that yearly or study time frame. Now when I do design some long-term anti-aging program where I do rotations, I do that: I say 20 days of Epitalon, for example, and three months after another bioregulator, and Epitalon again etc. And you can do them more at the same time, but it doesn't have to be like today at the same time."


    Epitalon acetate, 100 mg, $120
    https://science.bio/product/epitalon-aliquot-100mg/#product-description


    My guess about how to make a variety of bioactive organ peptides, similar to or maybe the same as Khavinson's bioregulator peptides (not sure how the dosage would compare to a concentrated extract like Epitalon and Khavinson's other extracts though), from fermented desiccated beef organs:
    https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/dan2s-journal.25288/page-5#post-296115
     
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  11. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I will have to spend some time on this.
    Thank you.
     
  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Off hand reading.

    Are you familiar enough to post here protocol for Epitalon use?
    How much, how long, how to prepare
    All possible details user of that protocol may need to implement it.

    ..
     
  13. Dan2

    Dan2 Pedantic schlub

    In the caption to this Facebook picture post

    https://www.facebook.com/BGFitness/...protocol-for-anti-aging-fo/10158630176829179/

    Ben Greenfield wrote, "The Khavinson protocol is 10mg epithalon, administered 3 times a week for 3 weeks, and is the exact dose that was studied in a 15 year follow up longevity study in humans that produced impressive results for controlling telomere shortening. The protocol only needs to be done once yearly."

    ___

    Similar recommendations

    https://bengreenfieldlife.com/article/anti-aging-articles/how-to-use-peptides/

    "Here’s the recommended dosage instructions for Epitalon:

    Dosage: 5-10mg per day

    Frequency of injection: 1 injection per day for low dose, 2 injections per day for high dose (divided between morning and late afternoon). Injections for this and other peptides can be subcutaneous (under skin, usually by bellybutton).

    Duration: 10-20 days

    Repeat cycle: 1-2x/year"

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    International Peptide Society Medical Professional Monograph Epithalon

    https://peptidesociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Epithalon-Monograph-Final.pdf

    "Dosage
    - IM [intramuscular injection?] General Dosing (Russian Protocol)
    - 100mg total
    - 10 mg IM daily for 10 days
    - Twice a Year

    - or IM General Dosing (Ukraine Protocol)
    - 50 mg total
    - Use 10 mg every third day times 2 weeks
    - Twice a year

    Note these Are IM [intramuscular injection?] protocols, this is a small peptide and Currently IPS [International Peptide Society, publisher of this document] protocol is a sub- q [subcutaneous injection?] protocol

    ...

    Epithalon induces telomerase activity and telomere elongation in human somatic cells. In a study it was shown to induce a 33% increase in telomere elongation which is directly involved in the aging process. [9] There was a human trial done over a 12-year period with patients treated with epithalon and a placebo group. The results of this study demonstrated a 28% decrease in overall mortality with those treated with epithalamin, and a 2-fold decrease in cardiovascular mortality by decreasing the functional age and degree of cardiovascular aging. [10] Another study was done to show that those treated with thymalin and epithalamin over a 6-year period had a mortality rate that was 4.1 times lower than the control group. [11]

    [9] Epithalon Peptide induces Telomerase activity and Telomere elongation in Human somatic cells, Bulletin of Experimental Biology and Medicine,Vol 135,No.5,pp 692-695, June 2003

    [10] Bull Exp Biol Med. 2006 Sep;142(3):356-9, Geroprotective effect of epithalamine (pineal gland peptide preparation) in elderly subjects with accelerated aging., Korkushko OV1, Khavinson VKh, Shatilo VB, Antonyuk-Shcheglova IA.

    [11] Neuro Endocrinol Lett. 2003 Jun-Aug 24(3-4):233-40.,Peptides of pineal gland and thymus prolong human life.,Khavinson VKh1, Morozov VG."

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    Reconstituting peptide powder with water and dosing with an insulin syringe
    (Scroll to "How to get BPC-157" section)

    https://bengreenfieldlife.com/article/supplements-articles/how-to-use-bpc-157/

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    Khavinson's main publications
    https://khavinson.info/research/main-published

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    "Vladimir Khavinson" search on libgen; 24 studies
    https://libgen.is/scimag/?q=Vladimir+Khavinson

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    Gerontological Aspects of Genome Peptide Regulation book
    By Khavinson

    https://www.amazon.com/Gerontological-Aspects-Genome-Peptide-Regulation/dp/3805578954/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1647658784&refinements=p_27:+Vladimir+Kh.\cEd.+Khavinson&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Ed.+Khavinson,+Vladimir+Kh.

    That book's table of contents

    https://tahomaclinic.com/Private/Articles3/Peptides/Khavinson 2005 - Gerontological Aspects of Genome Peptide Regulation.pdf

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    Peptides in the Epigenetic Control of Ageing book
    By Khavinson

    https://longevitysupplements.store/product/peptides-in-the-epigenetic-control-of-ageing-book/

    ___

    The peptide bioregulator revolution book
    By Marios Kyriazis, M.D.
    https://profound-health.com/product/the-peptide-bioregulator-revolution-book/
     
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  14. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    @Dan2
    My test shows:
    Alipoprotein E Genotype E3/E3
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    Had done telomere test once in the past, can't locate that test.
    -------------------------------------------

    The protocols that you posted on the post #233 range from
    10mg epithalon, administered 3 times a week for 3 weeks
    3*3*10=90mg once a year ----->> so one bottle of epitalon/year
    to
    2x 5mg/day for 20 days total 200 mg twice/year, so 400mg/year (4 bottles of epitalon/year)
    bengreenfield
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    Which one to choose?
    How to monitor if it makes any difference?
    ---------------------------------------
    Spectracel does telomere testing, is it worth to do that tests?

    .........................
    I do 2/week HCG injections using subq, with 31Ga needle
    Also MT-2 from time to time
    May that affect anything?
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  15. Dan2

    Dan2 Pedantic schlub

    "Which one to choose?
    How to monitor if it makes any difference?
    ---------------------------------------
    Spectracel does telomere testing, is it worth to do that tests?"

    I don't know why Ben Greenfield made the different recommendations; it's probably considering Khavinson's dosages in his experiments, what people self-experimenting discuss on peptides or anti-aging etc discussion forums that I'm not aware of specifically but Ben Greenfield probably reads, and probably discussions with doctors he knows who offer peptide treatments and have experience with results of their patients from different protocols. I don't know more about it other than the transcripts of some podcasts about peptides that I have in my journal thread (that I linked to the mentions of Epitalon in those).

    In my previous post:
    "Epithalon induces telomerase activity and telomere elongation in human somatic cells. In a study it was shown to induce a 33% increase in telomere elongation which is directly involved in the aging process. [9]

    [9] Epithalon Peptide induces Telomerase activity and Telomere elongation in Human somatic cells, Bulletin of Experimental Biology and Medicine,Vol 135,No.5,pp 692-695, June 2003"

    This is that study:
    https://libgen.is/scimag/?q=Epithal...nd+Telomere+elongation+in+Human+somatic+cells

    That's with cell cultures, where the "shown to induce a 33% increase in telomere elongation" is from.

    From that study:
    "These results indicate that in human somatic cells Epithalon can induce the expression of telomerase enzyme component, telomerase activity, and telomere longation (by on average 33.3%). Hence, we for the first time demonstrated induction of telomerase activity with a peptide. These data largely explain the geroprotective effects of Epithalon in various experimental models [10]. It is known that critically short telomeres cannot prevent chromosome fusion, which can lead to activation of protooncogenes and malignant transformation [7], while activation of telomerase and telomere elongation under the effect of the peptide explain the mechanism of antitumor effect of Epithalon in old animals."

    So because the 33% telomere length increase claim is from a cell culture study, yeah, might be useful to do a telomere test after Epitalon protocol to see how it affects yours.

    I thought maybe there'll be more about telomeres in the 12-year study Khavinson did; there isn't more about telomeres, but I did find a dosing protocol, and there's some interesting details about cardiovascular health and melatonin normalization.

    (Continuing in that paragraph from my previous post)
    "There was a human trial done over a 12-year period with patients treated with epithalon and a placebo group. The results of this study demonstrated a 28% decrease in overall mortality with those treated with epithalamin, and a 2-fold decrease in cardiovascular mortality by decreasing the functional age and degree of cardiovascular aging. [10]

    [10] Bull Exp Biol Med. 2006 Sep;142(3):356-9, Geroprotective effect of epithalamine (pineal gland peptide preparation) in elderly subjects with accelerated aging., Korkushko OV1, Khavinson VKh, Shatilo VB, Antonyuk-Shcheglova IA."

    Here's that study:
    https://libgen.is/scimag/?q=Geroprotective+effect+of+epithalamine+(pineal+gland+peptide+preparation)+in+elderly

    (quoting from it)
    "Epithalamine (ET) is one of the first peptide preparations in the world medical practice, which exhibited high geroprotective efficiency and safety in experimental and clinical studies. Epithalamine is a complex of polypeptides with molecular weights of 1-10 kDa isolated from the pineal gland and containing no melatonin [7,9]. The preparation stimulates the function of pinealocytes and increases melatonin production by these cells [3,11]. The effect of ET on the function of the pineal gland seems to be very important, because age-related weakening of the melatonin producing function has a significant impact on the body in general: leads to age-specific disorganization of biological rhythms, disorders in wake-sleeping cycle, neuroendocrine regulation, immunity, reproductive function, stress resistance, and promotes carcinogenesis [1,2].

    ...Pineal gland peptides induce telomerase activity and reduce the incidence of chromosome aberrations, which seems to promote slower realization of the genetic program of aging [6,8,13]...

    [References about telomeres...

    [6] S. V. Rosenfeld, E. F. Togo, V. S. Mikheyev, et al., Effect of Epithalon on the Incidence of Chromosome Aberrations in Senescence-Accelerated Mice, Bulletin of Experimental Biology and Medicine, 133, No. 3, 320-322 (2002).
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1015899003974
    https://libgen.is/scimag/?q=Effect+...me+Aberrations+in+Senescence-Accelerated+Mice

    [8] V. Kh. Khavinson, S. V. Anisimov, V. V. Malinin, and V. N. Anisimov, Peptide Regulation of Genome and Aging [in Russian], Moscow (2005).

    [13] V. Kh. Khavinson and V. V. Malinin, Gerontological Aspects of Genome Peptide Regulation, Basel (2005).
    https://libgen.is/scimag/?q=Gerontological+Aspects+of+Genome+Peptide+Regulation

    From a review of it, "The monograph [Gerontological Aspects of Genome Peptide Regulation] consists of 10 rather short but very informative chapters." (https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10541-005-0245-6)

    Table of contents and preface: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085302
    Chapter 1: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085301
    Chapter 2: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085303
    Chapter 3: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085304
    Chapter 4: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085313
    Chapter 5: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085314
    Chapter 6: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085316
    Chapter 7: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085319
    Chapter 8: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085320
    Chapter 9: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085321
    Chapter 10: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085322
    Chapter 11 Conclusion: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085323
    Index: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085325
    References: https://sci-hub.se/10.1159/000085324 ]

    Clinical studies of the efficiency and safety of long-term treatment with ET were carried out in 1992-2004 by scientists of Institute of Gerontology, Academy of Medical Sciences of the Ukraine... The efficiency of ET was evaluated in a thoroughly selected population of rapidly aging elderly subjects, representing an adequate object for evaluation of geroprotective treatments... Higher functional age in comparison with calendar age was considered as the criterion of AA [accelerated aging] [2]. The examined patients suffered mainly from the cardiovascular variant of AA. This was seen from a significantly greater (by 10 and more years) functional age of the cardiovascular system CVS) in comparison with actual age. Other manifestations (syndromes) of AA were also present: autonomic dysregulation, immune system dysfunction, decreased blood levels of sex hormones below the age-specific norm, reduction of physical and mental working capacity and of compactness and mineral saturation of bone tissue, disorders in lipid and carbohydrate metabolism, reduction of the detoxicating function of the liver, increased functional age of the CNS and of structural and functional age of bone tissue, etc...

    The patients were examined before ET or placebo treatment, after the 1st course of treatment, every year during the first 3 years, and then 5, 8, 10, and 12 years after the starting of ET [Epitalon] treatment.

    The protocol of long-term treatment with ET suggested therapeutic courses every 6 months for 3 years. Each course consisted of 5 intramuscular injections of ET in a dose of 10 mg with 3-day intervals. The dose per course was 50 mg, total dose over 3 years was 300 mg. Epithalamine was injected at 10.00 [AM?; I'm guessing this is like military time and would be 22.00 if 10 PM], as it was experimentally proven that injection of the drug at this time of the day best of all stimulated the melatonin-producing function of the pineal gland [11].

    Elderly patients in the main and control groups received the same basic therapy, including daily preventive dose of aspirin (100-125 mg), daily nitrosorbide (20-30 mg), low-dose β-adrenoblocker (propranolol, 20-30 mg), and/or angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor (captopril, 25-50 mg).

    After the first 3 courses of ET therapy, the functional age of CVS decreased by 3.2±1.5 years. Subsequent courses (4-6) promoted stabilization of the attained favorable effect (Fig. 1). By the end of 3-year observation the functional age of CVS in the main group virtually did not differ from the initial values, despite the fact the actual age of the patients increased by 3 years during this period... As early as after the first course of ET elderly subjects could walk a longer distance (by 254±73 m) along the terrain cure route without stopping and noted lesser fatigue during the exercise. The results of bicycle ergometry confirmed increased physical performance ability (Fig. 2). The threshold exercise tolerance increased by 21% under the effect of ET. This was paralleled by increase in the maximum O2 consumption during performance of the threshold exercise (by 0.11± 0.05 ml min), indicating increased functional potential of the oxygen transporting system...

    One of the mechanisms of favorable effect on physical working capacity was improvement of the efficiency of the CVS functioning (economic work). Heart rate and systolic blood pressure decreased significantly at the peak of dosed (25 W) exercise (by 7±3 bpm and by 9.4 mm Hg, respectively), while stroke volume increased by 12±4 ml, indicating decreased energy expenditure of the heart. Epithalamine had a favorable impact on the autonomic regulation. The treatment promoted a decrease in the low-frequency component and increase in the intensity of high-frequency component of heart rhythm variability, that is, decreased the sympathetic and increased the influences on CVs. This restructuring of autonomic regulation provides more effective functioning of the CVS during exercise...

    The favorable impact of ET on aging organism is partially due to its normalizing effect on the melatonin-producing function of the pineal gland [3]. Epithalamine stimulated endogenous production of melatonin in patients with initially low function of pinealocytes: plasma hormone concentration moderately increased during the dark hours of the day (Table 1). Injection of ET to patients with retained melatonin-producing function of the pineal gland virtually did not suppress the production of endogenous melatonin. Therefore, prescription of ET does not require preliminary evaluation of the pineal gland function.

    table 1 melatonin.png "
     
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  16. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    @Dan2
    I see you quoting:
    As early as after the first course of ET elderly subjects could walk a longer distance (by 254±73 m) along the terrain cure route without stopping and noted lesser fatigue during the exercise.
    ------------------
    Thank you for your time and attention.
    ..................
    Currently I am walking 7 days a week about 5 miles. Have a good balance.
    When the Bicoin starts going up,
    I am planning to hire male dance teacher for my girl so she could learn some dancing, and eventually start back on dancing.
    If that will not work I will hire female dancer for me, for few hours a week.
    I used to do that (hiring dance teacher for dancing), but my DW sickness and then her death messed up that part.
    Another words, I do think I am in not so bad shape.
    Wonder how good candidate I am to use Epithalon?
    When they are talking about walking 254 meters and presenting it as a success.

    ................
    The whole conversation/speculation started with my two liposarcoma surgeries in my left thigh.
    There is a less muscle there now, yes but, thanks to God (for arranging skilled surgeon) the thigh is still functional.
    ------------------
    Couple weeks ago:
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  17. Dan2

    Dan2 Pedantic schlub

    Hahaha I didn't mean I thought walking another 250 meters would be difficult for you. I don't know why I included that. It was in the paragraph about exercise and cardiovascular improvement and I didn't change it to "..."; I didn't emphasize it though! Try Epitalon and do telomere test and dancing test.


    "The effect of ET on the function of the pineal gland seems to be very important, because age-related weakening of the melatonin producing function has a significant impact on the body in general: leads to age-specific disorganization of biological rhythms, disorders in wake-sleeping cycle, neuroendocrine regulation, immunity, reproductive function, stress resistance, and promotes carcinogenesis."

    I guess the melatonin normalization affects the cardio improvements? Or maybe, like this,
    "It is known that critically short telomeres cannot prevent chromosome fusion, which can lead to activation of protooncogenes and malignant transformation [7], while activation of telomerase and telomere elongation under the effect of the peptide explain the mechanism of antitumor effect of Epithalon in old animals."
    maybe if it lengthens telomeres, that affects gene expression related to cardio health, (cardio health being less affected by the melatonin (and feedback signals from its production?))? Maybe that too you already do and don't need the Epitalon.
     
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  18. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I was just reading back thru this journal

    can I make a suggestion from a female point of view?

    I am meaning no disrespect at all - I totally appreciate and respect your journey here .....

    My perspective for a male or female .....it can't just be about how you look.

    You have to love yourself before someone else can love you.

    This is an inside job!

    Maybe you are trying to hard?

    Maybe just go on with your life - doing the things that interest you, things that make your spirit soar, things that resonate with your heart, things that give you substance and soul and make you glow with satisfaction..

    In my opinion - all these inside things show on the outside far more than what exercise you are doing to improve your abs.

    It is almost never about what someone looks like on the outside - it is always about what is on the inside.

    Have you ever seen a beautiful woman with a very average looking guy and wonder why she is attracted to him?

    I will guarantee you that it is all about kindness, and decency and compassion and a great love of life in whatever form that takes.

    Personally I think the right person comes along when you least expect it, when you are living your life to the max, when you are loving yourself ....then you sparkle with vitality and vigor.

    Who could resist that .........

    I am pretty sure that Jack would tell you that being best friends first is a precursor to a great love.

    Relax and enjoy the journey........
     
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  19. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I appreciate your input, @caroline
    Please continue.
    Maybe some other ladies would chime in too. Or men.
    I hope that none of my advice to Ravi have not offended you, but and first of all I hope that I have not hurt Ravi with bad advice.
    Even less, I hope I have not wasted Ravi's time with pretty and useless advice.

    If possible make any advice practical. (Think that you are match maker). Ravi is running out of time, he is 30yo would like to start family asap.
    I know about him only what he wrote on this thread.
    Possibly new brains come with more practical solutions.
    ..............
    Note, I think that way anyhow, great poetry comes mostly from broken hearts.
    Poetry ok. But lets not have broken hearts.
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  20. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Dear Jan .....I meant no respect for the things that you are helping Ravi with.

    You have a big heart Jan and you do a great job of biohacking.

    You know so much about testing etc and I appreciate you for your thoughts on so many different things.

    I guess I just meant that there is so much more to what makes a man or woman vital and appealing and beautiful to the opposite sex.... and to maybe relax a little.

    My Tony is just a guy who is small in stature but he has a huge heart and a huge love of nature and music and life...and me. How could I resist that?
     
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