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Red Light Therapy Devices

Discussion in 'Biohacking 101' started by OptimalSkr, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

    I just listened to the Anthony DiClementi (https://podcast.biohackingsecrets.com/show) podcast about light and he talks about the photonic torch device (https://photonichealth.com/people/) and other red light (led) devices. (https://www.amazon.com/RubyLux-ALL-...rd_wg=LNKqL&psc=1&refRID=PYX5BARNFG0XCNGM4Y0M)

    Also this tendlite seems to be a cheaper alternative (https://tendlite.myshopify.com/)

    Does anyone have any experience with these? I am specifically wondering about the EMF's these devices have. I assume the actually LED light bulbs will be an issue but are the handheld devices a problem?

    I am looking at using these for 1.Improving Brain function from concussion recovery 2.chronic muscle pain and injury healing to muscle (old sports injuries) 3. to help with Foreskin regeneration from circumcision

    Also after reading all Jacks' stuff I assume that they should preferably be used in the morning or night and with a cooled skin surface to increase absorption.

    Any input or experience would be great! Thanks,
  2. JanSz

    JanSz Silver

    I am looking at using these for 1.Improving Brain function from concussion recovery
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    Check all your pituitary hormones.
    Pay special attention to GH.

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  3. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I am really interested in following this .....my partner has old muscle injuries / tears and now it looks like a full thickness tear. Everyone I have been in touch with says that LLLT is a waste of money. It makes so much sense to me to use red light for regeneration.

    In one of Jack's last podcast he talks a little about this therapy but you have to know what you are doing or there could be issues......
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2017
  4. Alper

    Alper New Member

    What about infrared lamps? Those that are sold for chronic sinusitis and muscle pain etc? Are they appropriate?
  5. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    That podcast was the one I did with Greenfield on redox and MRI: NO in the sinus.
  6. Penny

    Penny New Member

  7. gene@kalmens.org

    gene@kalmens.org New Member

    In this podcast, Jack mentions a laser to treat an underperforming thyroid, but does not provide the specifics. I searched the forum as well as the web. On the forum, this thread mentions it, Meg's Journal. The web search proved not to be very conclusive or straightforward. There are good results from Ukraine and Russia, specification of the device that would work best (wave length, power, beam angle), DIY red light devices, etc. I have all these links. For affordable consumer devices to use on thyroid (and virtually any other part of the body), my only pick is this infra-red device. Yet, I am not fully convinced it is the right device. I will greatly appreciate any educated opinions about this device or maybe others that I failed to find.

    Other device-related links are http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Near-Infrared-IR-Array-for-Detox-and-Light-T/, http://vielight.com/product/vielight-810/, http://www.vetrolaser.com/Home_Page.php. For one reason or another, these don't seem to meet the requirements.
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  8. Earth Monkey

    Earth Monkey New Member

    Thanks for the info gene, I'll check them out. I'd like to to try one of these for celiac, as metioned in the interview.
  9. Penny

    Penny New Member

    Here's a great thread on infrared light therapy - plus, on Dr. K's facebook page he chats about - I think it was 850nm - IR therapy for hypothyroid -
    https://selfhacked.com/2013/11/14/my-review-of-lllt/

    Here it is:
    Most people know that sunlight has 42% IR-A light present in it. Most people do not know that red light at 613.5 and 623.5 nm (in one spectrum, at 606 nm), in the red maximum have some interesting effects on human tissue. Are there other key frequencies buried in the sun for healing? The far-red maximum has exact peak positions between 667.5 and 683.7 nm in different spectra. Two near infrared maxima have peak positions in the range 750.7-772.3 nm and 812.5-846.0 nm. Can these be used to treat things like auto-immune thyroid disease which is now explosive in the USA with no good therapy? Yep.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22718472

    Lasers Med Sci. 2013 May;28(3):743-53. doi: 10.1007/s10103-012-1129-9. Epub 2012 Jun 21.
    Low-level laser in the treatment of patients with hypothyroidism induced by chronic autoimmune thyroiditis: a randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial.
    Höfling DB1, Chavantes MC, Juliano AG, Cerri GG, Knobel M, Yoshimura EM, Chammas MC.
    Author information
    Abstract

    Chronic autoimmune thyroiditis (CAT) is the most common cause of acquired hypothyroidism, which requires lifelong levothyroxine replacement therapy. Currently, no effective therapy is available for CAT. Thus, the objective of this study was to evaluate the efficacy of low-level laser therapy (LLLT) in patients with CAT-induced hypothyroidism by testing thyroid function, thyroid peroxidase antibodies (TPOAb), thyroglobulin antibodies (TgAb), and ultrasonographic echogenicity. A randomized, placebo-controlled trial with a 9-month follow-up was conducted from 2006 to 2009. Forty-three patients with a history of levothyroxine therapy for CAT-induced hypothyroidism were randomly assigned to receive either 10 sessions of LLLT (830 nm, output power of 50 mW, and fluence of 707 J/cm(2); L group, n=23) or 10 sessions of a placebo treatment (P group, n=20). The levothyroxine was suspended 30 days after the LLLT or placebo procedures. Thyroid function was estimated by the levothyroxine dose required to achieve normal concentrations of T3, T4, free-T4 (fT4), and thyrotropin after 9 months of postlevothyroxine withdrawal. Autoimmunity was assessed by measuring the TPOAb and TgAb levels. A quantitative computerized echogenicity analysis was performed pre- and 30 days postintervention. The results showed a significant difference in the mean levothyroxine dose required to treat the hypothyroidism between the L group (38.59 ± 20.22 μg/day) and the P group (106.88 ± 22.90 μg/day, P<0.001). Lower TPOAb (P=0.043) and greater echogenicity (P<0.001) were also noted in the L group. No TgAb difference was observed. These findings suggest that LLLT was effective at improving thyroid function, promoting reduced TPOAb-mediated autoimmunity and increasing thyroid echogenicity in patients with CAT hypothyroidism.
  10. Emma Sabin

    Emma Sabin Gold

    Hi there
    I am trying to find the best light to use to help my thyroid. I was very hypothyroid in London taking nature thyroid to help me (attached tests from Jan 28th) then moved to Ibiza and started CT and getting UV every day and increased my nature and my labs showed an increase. I'm waiting on my latest results before changing anything too drastically but want to get a red light and am very unsure what to get. Any advice would be good. My functional dr reccomends the vielight 655. I'm interested to know anyone's thoughts..
  11. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Hi Emma ....have you listened to JK's podcast with Luke Storey?
  12. Emma Sabin

    Emma Sabin Gold

    No but I will. Thank you.
  13. Emma Sabin

    Emma Sabin Gold

    Ok listened to it and quite confused. I don't know what I should get to help my scenario. Do you have any advice Caroline?
  14. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    maybe ask some questions here? I don't have enuf knowledge to give advice.
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