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Recent EMF findings since 2011. Update.

Discussion in 'The EMF Rx' started by Jack Kruse, Feb 10, 2014.

  1. Inger

    Inger Silver

    it is funny... there is something special living with an open door...

    it is also funny we find Peters way of living absurd, this was the way everyone lived just a few years ago... when I was a kid no one had cellphones either
    and I can say honestly, I miss that time

    Just 4 years ago I worked in a book store cafeteria in Hamburg (Germany) and my boss/owner (the same age as my mom), she had no cellphone either... or, she had one, but it was locked up and never switched on lol
    she was a special lady, very strong person. I loved her. We sure had a special relationship.
     
  2. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    Hi Inger! I definitely try to limit as much as I can the use of all the tech gadgets - once in a while now I turn on my iPhone just to check if it needs to be recharged. My iPad, however, doe not get even that much attention anymore.... Everyone knows that they will need to call me on my landline if they need to talk to me.
    The only reason that I felt compelled to comment on Peter's post, is because while I felt in agreement with almost everything that he listed there, it was this:
    that gave me personally the chills. That reminds me, I need to go and do my CT for today....
     
  3. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    It seems that the old-fashioned way may mean different things for different people. This would not be included in my definition of it
     
  4. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Tanya... hi :)
    I guess yeah we might take it up differently than Peter meant - I guess I have done that a lot by him. Because of my own experiences that I then "pushed" on him, but he did not mean it that way. I think now.
    Our brains are weird, aren't they? ;)

    For sure... we can hardly know someone 100% by the internet.... but it is great to have an open mind, at least I need to be careful to not let my own traumas color what I see/read :oops:
    so I tell myself to stay open

    I sometimes feels so stuck in my brain.. like it is way too slow to change!!!
     
  5. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    We all tell our stories, here we discuss not just illness any longer, we discuss what the basics for life is...

    What i mean is that, first, words just like Inger said can be taken wrong. Then we all try to describe how every single one of us see the world, right here and right now. This will also be a matter of different takes on simple subjects.

    The things i tell is not to make myself feel better about myself, it is my lifestory i share, the trails i walked and the ones i choosed to leave. Many times i think it is a good thing to ask questions and take steps back even if it hurts. I have destroyed my ego so many times thru my life that this is nothing shocking anymore, therefor i seem to take easy on things that other do not but i care about the ones i love just as much as others do but in a different way than 99 percent.

    Just a simple line where i can sound cold and very, very weird.

    This is perhaps why many leave me also... I simply can not have a mobile that dear ones call me and say how they feel in that moment, it would destroy my own inner peace. Instead i try to meet them live as much as i can so that and if anything happen i and them remember that instead of a crisis.

    If my life gets to messy i must escape, i do not support my dear ones if i can not take care of myself first, others may be able to do that but multitasking is bad for me. When i do i get lost in things, can work until i drop down, can stop be there for others, isolating myself and what good is that for me? Trust me i tried to do regular life as my friends do but that kills me.

    Many in my surroundings think i got mental problems, just by acting in a complete different way than they do... But i learned from age of six to take care of myself, even if my parents where always there they let me go and do my own choices from that age. Right or wrong? I think i know the answer for myself, they did not have any choice, it had to be done.

    This also puts me in a world where my likens are climbers, surfers, divers, dancers, circus people and even homeless humans. This is where we have some kind of silent acceptance for our unique weirdness. Here i also can describe why i must do things and they have the same issues as i do, we tend to travel around alot, not just physical but also mental... Many of these friends of mine is considered outcast and a danger to themself because of the things we do. Just that we often put life at risk does not mean that we are prepared for the risk. This applies to my thoughts about modern social media and the gadgets that is the carrier for it. In my own little world these things does not even work, what help is it for me if i can not get reception? Who would i call if i have a blackout while diving. This do not mean that you and others should toss the thing out the window but i will always discuss the need for it.

    And it is not about the kicks, the thrills of it i do live like this... I simply must because, otherwise i end up in the same trap as old friends from work, illness and sudden death. Yes, it is that bad among them, in one year four have died at ages 35-46. Clue for me? IT business and semiconductor plants, guess why i feel how i do.

    When i say push i also mean pull. I push myself 24/7 and 365 and by that i also pull some around me...

    To end it i quote a someone i meet years ago...

    "to be normal today is like making violence to yourself" - Klint Olle

    I found my weirdo in myself at age of six and i hope we all find him or her in the end.

     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  6. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    just beautiful Peter ^^^^^

    I have had some amazing moments in my life the last year or so ....I always try to hang on to every single second, every single word, every single touch and smile .... but it all seems to evaporate ....and I am left with the overall wonderful memories only.

    I always feel so desperate to hang on to it all....maybe that is not how it is meant to be .......
     
  7. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I feel very strongly about what Peter said - I connect to that 100% ......People need to share love and kindness and touch in the moment ....... later is no good to anyone .....it is after the fact ......
     
  8. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    Audrey, saying
    to me does not mean what you see as
    It is what it is and it speaks for itself - no matter how anybody try to dress it up later....Sometimes, just a few words can say plenty... I believe that at this point enough has been said about this....:(
     
  9. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I don't understand?
     
  10. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    It makes two of us, Audrey then... I don't know then what you were referring to when you said about agreeing with Peter 100%. I hope it was not this, though
    But as I said before, it is time to leave it alone....
     
  11. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    yes - that is exactly what I meant ........
     
  12. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    People who soar are those who refuse to sit back, sigh and wish things would change. They wander in nature. They neither complain of their lot nor passively dream of some distant ship coming in. They just live the life they create. Rather, they visualize in their minds that they are not quitters; they will not allow life’s circumstances to push them down and hold them under.
    We are unaware that we live simultaneously in two worlds, with two realities: the inner city of our thoughts, emotions and attitudes, and the outer reality of people, places, things and events. Too many of us allow the outer world dominate our sense of what is real. This causes our inner reality to react and not live. In this way you never tap your full power as a person..............Begin by disconnecting from noise of the outer world and connect to the silence within you. When you do this you can make sense of the disturbance going on around you.

    Make your mental blue print off your inner world, and begin to create.........
     
  13. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Very beautiful ^^
     
  14. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    We always need to have the highest aspirations in life and do everything we can to achieve them…while we are at the same time in that "outer world", with all those people still in there...We cannot simply tun out to the distress of the others. People will always need each other, they will inspire us, help us or might need our help . They want to feel that someone cares about them, even if they themselves no longer can in return do anything back for us, but just smile and say thank you. Unfortunately, while there is no shortage of some very self-centered and self-absorbed individuals in this world, there is a serious decline in empathy....
     
  15. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    aspiration means nothing if you do not act. Ideation without execution leads to deletion of any great aspiration.
     
  16. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    It is the act that counts for everything .... in my opinion.....
     
  17. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    I agree.... We need to act to achieve our aspirations and I believe I even said as much:
    Sometimes though, it is also a question of prioritizing your responsibilities in life and being there for the others who might need your help. Oh yes, that requires a lot of action....
     
  18. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Tanya - in my opinion - you are misunderstanding what Peter and I are saying.... we need to be kind and gentle and patient and act with love in the moment ...and do what we can for people we care about ...and, indeed, go the extra mile or whatever it takes for people we love .....

    I am saying ...... to treat people horribly ... and then say you are sorry later - is no longer acceptable to me.
     
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  19. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    I am reliefed to know that you feel this way, Audrey.... As far as Peter is concerned - I do wish that it would have been a case of simply misunderstanding him.... but he made it very clear.... I think, it is enough time and energy being spend on this :)
    Let it be...
     
  20. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

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