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Phosphene — She Wants To Do Right

Discussion in 'My Optimal Journal' started by Phosphene, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    It has something to do with the quinine in the tonic. I did a quick search of the publicly available blogs and the only hit was in this monstrous masterpiece. Worth another read, or 5.

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  2. drezy

    drezy Gold

    Caroline got the Northern Polish alcohol dehydrogenase genes. Dropping that as a future reference.
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  3. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I have issues with sand flies .....and I was told that gin and tonic works a treat! Apparently because of the quinine in tonic water.

    But, as a bonus, I don't seem to get leg cramps at night or easy bruising.

    We spent some time with a lovely couple when we were caravanning recently. June became my hero .......she drinks gin and tonic with lime for some really good reasons.
    #!....the quinine in tonic
    #2......juniper berries in gin
    #3..... the lime is her fruit for the day

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  4. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Not sure what that means - but I like it!

    I actually love polish Vodka .....Zabrowska with grass.

    and Wishnoya - a very yummy cherry vodka ........don't have a clue about the spelling in either case btw.
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  5. drezy

    drezy Gold

    It's a work in progress. I'll keep you up to date.
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2018
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  6. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    darn - those two vodkas are getting really hard to find here. The Wishnoya vodka with grass has a slight cinnamon finish when it is iced.

    I was lucky enuf to have a very detailed and in depth discussion with a rep at a large liquor store here .........

    I guess I should have been reading blogs instead :(:(:(
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  7. drezy

    drezy Gold

    Perma-Ban her, now!!!

    LOL, I'm tinkering with this odd human quirk.
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  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Unless I missed,
    you are after two different alcohol drinks.

    1. variety of cherry vodkas
    Wiśniówka (liqueur)

    Żubrówka, also known in English as bison grass vodka, is a Polish dry, herb-flavoured vodka that is distilled from rye and bottled at 40% alcohol by volume. Its flavour is unique and is described as having woodruff, vanilla, coconut, cinnamon and almond notes. Wikipedia
    Note vertical blade of grass in the bottle below.
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2018
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  9. drezy

    drezy Gold

  10. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    Oh come on! That was helpful!

    Thanks Jan, and Caroline for somehow managing to expand my adult beverage horizons. :)

    My maternal line claims Ukrainian but they were from the tumultuous area of Galacia on the Ukraine/Poland border, so I’m surely at least part Polak.

    Methinks I’ll be hearing more about this alcohol dehydrogenase business.
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  11. drezy

    drezy Gold

    Then I'll just drop loose notes here.

    The liver recapitulates the sun -- is something I read early on in my studies here.

    I spent almost 2 decades working with many different talented people of many haplotypes and married into one of it.

    Drink with a Baltic or Russian (aka miserable light) person and watch them drink alcohol as if it were water.

    Drink with an equatorial Asian and watch them after the first sip. Red face and haze.

    It's probably no mystery that liver function is a function of mitochondrial latitude adjustment.
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  12. Inna

    Inna Platinum

    Yes, for a Russian one of the most admirable qualities is the ability to “outdrink” others at the table.

    So the one who remains seated at the table while others are lying under the table is considered a winner in a Russian book..
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  13. Inna

    Inna Platinum

    “Alcohol is the anaesthesia by which we endure the operation of life”.

    George Bernard Shaw
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  14. drezy

    drezy Gold

    I attended 1 college party and was, at first, confused why everyone was laying around and sleeping before 3 am.

    Now I think understand, but I don't push it at the expense of my DHA.
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  15. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    So my ancestors are middle European I guess. My Dad was Austrian and my Mom a Polack.

    Why is it that I can drink a ton of alcohol with almost no ill affect .....but 1 glass of wine at lunch time can make me feel quite tipsy?
  16. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Thanks Jan ....you are my main man! I love the Zubrowka and a little goes a long way. I keep it in the freezer - and also shot glasses.

    I do love the cherry vodka too tho.......
  17. drezy

    drezy Gold

    There's probably a couple of factors.

    Many people drink wine a little faster than they think they do. Wine comes with a sugar/insulin load to deal with as well.

    This does relate to what we learn here too. Look at good old ADH in the retinol metabolism pathway:

    So there's light environment, eye color, and mt-dna staring us in the face again.
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  18. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Last edited: Sep 30, 2018
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  19. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    Well I’m not quite sure what to make with all this heavy, deep and real alcohol info and philosophy. I think I need to let it sink in and come back. I certainly know my tolerance is high and it’s a slippery slope. I do feel like I have mental crampons now to dig in after just a few drinks and arrest the slide. Paternal side is German/Irish so I imagine that doesn’t help. Very dark brown eyes.

    It’s a time for a major decision right now, and I’m handling it all much better than normal, though the decision is no less difficult. I’m sure it’s all the sun and seafood and good sleep I’ve made it a priority to get this summer, as well as ramping up on CT.

    My deeply entangled British yogi with MS fell and shattered his tibia during his visit to the ashram. I have decided that I can’t help him, even though as his friend (and ONLY a friend) part of me feels I should. He needs a personal assistant, and it can’t be me.

    The sun has illuminated the fact that I have a deeply blessed life already, and that my strained marriage deserves valiant effort and attention.

    Ah, to be continued.
  20. drezy

    drezy Gold

    For the record I'm claiming it's not a good idea. Just noting haplo differences that also seem to correspond.
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