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Phosphene — She Wants To Do Right

Discussion in 'My Optimal Journal' started by Phosphene, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. drezy

    drezy New Member

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  2. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    Yes I will (re)read that thread and give the webinar a close listen or three. My sons made it back a few pounds lighter but unscathed from their camping/kayaking trip in the Adirondacks so yesterday was spent trying to put those pounds back. They are a little self-conscious about their 6’1” and 6’3” frames at barely 145-150 pounds. I keep reassuring them that all is well and they have more important things to worry about.


    After noticing these intricate spiderwebs I was called to listen to the God is Light, Light is God webinar as my spiritual practice this morning. Confirmed a lot of what I already believe, which was golden. If nature and God aren’t one and the same I’ll eat MY shorts.

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  3. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    Love that webinar God is light and light is God. I have said once before about listening to Doc speak that I find his voice very pleasant. I'm like a kid a story time would be. . Well, a behaved one;)

    Tell them many guys wish to look like them with or without trying. Tell them to enjoy life and have fun and give mom and dad lots of hugs and kisses.
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  4. Jenelle

    Jenelle Evolving

    If only your kids could see themselves as we see them. Of course we all know ~ they look great.

    At some point in recent years, my focus shifted from what my body looked like to what my body can DO ... and that's a pretty cool place to be. My body can do some amazing stuff. Clearly ~ theirs can, too.

    They would fit RIGHT in with the group of young men we saw in Vermont. Maybe you guys can go next year? ;)
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  5. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    LOLHAHAAAA I said next year we will try and say on the farm. That would be awesome.
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  6. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    Lots to say, but it’s late and must get to bed. Stayed up to listen to August 2018 webinar and... wow. Just wow. Dots are connecting with the clogged carburetor analogy (gearhead father and brother). Must listen again.

    Also, life goals:

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  7. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

  8. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Based on some of the pictures you posted, your lot looks pretty private as is.

    In one of my notebooks I have something like this sketched in:

    Imagine this kind of hamper:
    But bigger(using some tent poles), less see through, and top adjustable like this:
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  9. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    More on the above later, but need to get this out.

    Like for many of us here, @drezy has been an inspirational, funny as shit, patient, tough-love coach. This morning as I ate my oysters and eggs in the sun I pondered the above suggestion (to what I thought was a decent idea) thinking WTF, why doesn’t my brain work like it used to? Am I really that far gone?

    And then it finally hit me. Duh, it’s the CT dummy!!!!!!!!! Or lack thereof for me. Despite knowing its importance I’ve been a pathetic wimp, just doing some inconsistent face dunks and tepid showers with a short, cold, irritating blast at the very end. I had absolutely no excuse for not filling my tub with awesome well water that frosts the faucet and can’t be any warmer than 55F.

    I read the CT blogs ages ago when I was even fuzzier, and since then most of the CT forum comments. Like most things in my life I was over-analyzing and over-complicating.

    I did have a negative experience with accidental deep CT many years ago when canoeing with a friend on a recently thawed lake. The borrowed canoe tipped several hundred meters out and we couldn’t get back in. Being strong swimmers we stupidly decided to tow it back to shore instead of abandoning it. We made it but the exertion in such cold water left us numb and close to paralyzed, and we had to be hauled up onto the dock and carried to the house. The warmup took hours and was so painful! We really were quite lucky it all turned out well, and of course later celebrated with the adult beverage du jour.

    Shit, gotta do something but will post this for now. To be continued.
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  10. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Dude, way too kind.

    I do think if you don't give CT a solid 2-3 month try then you're underutilizing the information here.

    Thinking through and learning the science here is fun, but I never got a single benefit without acting on it. I personally acted on it before really understanding the science since nature doesn't require me to understand it for it to just work.

    Understanding is good for later unmistakably recognizing where the gains are coming from.
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  11. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    Oh, should have added—I did actually get in the tub, and it was awesome!!! Want to describe the experience in full before the memory dissipates. Later.
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  12. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    Ok. I didn’t get to this yesterday because I dropped like a rock around 8pm. Fell asleep on the couch and then moved to bedroom when husband finished work. (He works from home doing tech support for a local hospital, and the home office is in the bedroom. Yes I know—shitty—topic for another day. Oddly I seem to sleep well in there, but I do prefer the guest room. Though once I decide to sleep I can do it anywhere, and I’m grateful for that.)

    Anyway, on to CT. Cold Thermogenesis I’ve caught a glimpse of your mystique. I am almost constantly cold except for high summer. I think it’s a thyroid thing, and will post labs at some point. Need to go back for current ones—haven’t been to the doctor in well over a year. Spent more than enough time previously with primary care and various traditional and alternative specialists to make up for it.

    Man, distracted much?

    Eating out in the searing heat yesterday it occurred to me that CT would feel great right about then. (I swear I could hear @drezy yelling, “Do it, just Dooooooooo it!” I had a revelation that I could try an ‘opposite frog boil’ (probably not new here though I can’t recall it being discussed). Instead of slowly turning up the heat to stupify the frogs to their doom, I could just start out sitting in a little tepid water then add the cold gradually. Wimpy I know but you gotta start somewhere.

    So I marched into the bathroom, cleared the cobwebs and dead bugs from the soaking tub (separate from the shower) and started off with the hot/cold mix. I quickly discovered that I had indeed been an uber-wimp before because the damn cold really wasn’t that bad. It was of course just my thoughts that made it seem bad.

    I switched to full cold right away, and just decided to close my eyes and observe the sensations as the water engulfed me milliliter by millimeter. I kept my hands and feet out, as recommended by some, and with just a few minor flinches found my lower half submerged to my ribs.

    WTF??? That was easy! Yet another lesson about mountains and molehills.

    I kept the girls dry since out of the pounds I packed on at the ashram, quite a few ounces decided to go there for once, and I’d like to keep those if possible. :D

    As my mind raced, beating myself up for not starting this sooner, I noticed a small spider struggling near the drain and had compassion on that at least. I put my finger near and it gladly clung on. It took a minute to recover and start moving, then we carefully observed each other before deciding all was cool. I let the spider crawl all over me in complete fascination, totally forgetting the cold which I couldn’t even feel at that point.

    I was completely surprised by the lack of shivering, and decided I’d stay in till I started shivering. At one point I submerged hands and feet just to test whether it was actually still cold. Fuck yeah it was cold—painful on wrists and ankles so those came back out. I’ll get a thermometer to test how cold.

    Had some lovely flashbacks to frolicking in the frigid Atlantic waves till my lips turned blue on Jersey Shore family vacations. Need to get back to the ocean so badly...

    After what I thought was half an hour or so I repositioned and leaned back to submerge the back of my head, then ears, then eyes, just leaving nose, mouth and boobs up top. Can only imagine the sight!

    My tinnitus changed underwater from the high pitches to a rather loud freight train, and the cold felt good at first but got quickly uncomfortable. Then shivering started and I got out soon after. Was surprisingly dizzy and a bit weak on standing. Think I stayed in too long—I had my phone off but when checked I couldn’t believe a bit over an hour had passed.

    Stumbled back outside and flung myself in the sunny grass. Felt what must have been euphoria as the tingling warmup began—so different from what I’d experienced with the tipped canoe.

    Is that what euphoria feels like?

    Still grappling with it all, but will certainly continue. Can see some deep meditations happening there.

    Wondering if it is indeed a good idea to keep the girls dry or whether the cold can do any, um, structural repair from 3 years of breastfeeding? Would gladly give back the ounces for a little lift... :rofl:
  13. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Now it's easier than rinse and repeat because you don't even have to rinse.
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  14. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    Repeated! :thumbsup:

    I am so fortunate to have the gift of time and place to do it.
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  15. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    Minor setback. Had a lousy night with digestive upset that I don’t think came from my steak salad dinner. (Though the dressing was a commercial avocado-poblano that was past-due so who knows.)

    I remember reading a comment about this being a possibility with CT if not well-hydrated, so need to consider that too. (Something about grease guns... :eek::mmpft:) I’m not really tracking my water intake—just chugging 12-16 oz at a time whenever I’m near a sink, which is often. I take some outside too of course.

    Feeling ok now but a slight headache like a minor hangover without the party. Might take a CT break today unless I just sit out in the rain that’s supposed to come this afternoon.
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  16. drezy

    drezy New Member

    If I haven't done a CT in a while and I do not drink 1 QT (32 oz) of cold water prior things can go that direction. Largemouth quart mason jars make this easy.

    For sure though Rule #1 is hydrate. In my experience those protons are coming out the easy way or the hard way...
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  17. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

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  18. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Having been there I can assure them that simply allowing 20 years to pass will begin to address that "problem".
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  19. Love all this @Phosphene and i know what you mean by bizarro lol
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  20. http://www.ketopetsanctuary.com/

    Have you heard of KetoPet, you put the dog on a Keto/Meat diet basically.... some even feed them Raw meat. Might help the little one along as it will be a deuterium depleted diet and anti-tumour/cancer....... I love my dogs but my Mom will only feed them Biscuits because worrying about meat is too much stress. I wish i could take them off her to be honest but I also wouldn't be able to spend enough time with them in the day time...... My mom made a low dopamine choice when getting one, and then a second!! You really gotta have the time and space for a dog, I believe!
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