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Muscle Memory

Discussion in 'Optimal Fitness' started by TrevorR, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. TrevorR

    TrevorR New Member

    Hey guys, I started a thread a couple months ago, I don't want to make this a long post so I'll keep it brief. I'm finally getting better after battling C.Diff, co-infections, and debilitating Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. In the past month I have felt amazing. I started lifting weights again for the first time since getting sick 1yr and a half ago, it's truly miraculous.

    Before getting sick I was very into fitness and lifting, I would work out a couple hours every day. After getting sick I lost all my muscle and dropped 60 pounds and turned into a twig. I've read some stuff about "muscle memory" and being able to gain muscle faster if you've already previously built it up. Does anyone have any information about this.

    I figured I'd throw out the question of favorite/best training methods to build muscle faster too, any tips?

    Thanks!
     
  2. ssj3

    ssj3 Silver

    Hi Trev, right down my alley...

    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/08/02/0913935107.full.pdf
    http://www.exercisebiology.com/index.php/site/articles/muscle_memory_solved/
    http://nutsci.org/2010/08/23/muscle-memory-its-in-the-myonuclei/
    http://www.wired.com/2010/08/muscle-memory/
    http://www.rxmuscle.com/blogs/the-t...s/9276-satellite-cells-and-muscle-memory.html

    Personally I lost just under 40kg and have only managed to add back on half of that. I'm currently out to prove to my coach that against long held belief in this field that I can do this on a low carb/keto diet.... progress not coming along as planned, YET.

    Drop me a message and I can share some training resources that might be of interest.
     
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  3. TrevorR

    TrevorR New Member

    Wow great stuff, i am sending you a PM now
     
  4. shah78

    shah78 Gold

    Post CFS , the best lifting program is Body by Science by Doug McGuff M.D. He's Paleo as well. Low volume(, very low) and high intensity. LEARN TO WORK OUT AFTER SITTING IN A COLD TUB! I've gained well almost twenty five lbs of muscle and lost almost ten lbs of fat with seventy minutes of compound movements a MONTH over the last forty months. I'm 58. This is not supposed to happen at 58. I also had twenty seven years of CFS/FM. At your age it should be even easier........ Also,. Muscle memory is very real, imho.
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2014
  5. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    memory is retained in the cytoarchitecture........you just need energy to retap and reconstitute it from its store. DHA is the key to the rebuild.
     
  6. TrevorR

    TrevorR New Member

    Thanks guys, I have worked out and THEN sat in a cold tub but never the other way around, I'll have to try it.

    Jack, how much DHA a day is too much? I know you say to get it naturally from fish, but I don't have enough money to eat it as much as I'd like. I have some good fish oil pills for when I can't get the real stuff. How much can I take?
     
  7. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    canned oysters, sardines, mackerel etc. etc.
     
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  8. sjoshua

    sjoshua New Member

    How do you know they are good? Did you ask the fish :)? The issue with capsules is the unnatural form, which leads to a higher potential for unnatural ratios of the various O3 substrates being present, namely EPA which we don't want to overdo.

    Thank you, sir, you just inspired me to find wild caught sardines in bulk... 8 lbs for $48: http://www.wholey.com/sardines.html

    $40 shipping for me in CA... $20 to my old NY zip code... very tempted to hit their $200 threshold for free freight... $6/lb is pretty solid

    EDIT: Wow, this place is a gold mine for seafood at great prices.... I don't think I am going to have any trouble getting to $200
     
  9. Jude

    Jude Gold

  10. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I was just skyping with Stella and and she was eating sardines from Spain - way more expensive but way more delicious apparently!
     
  11. oceanwild

    oceanwild New Member

    muscle memory? for me I doing the work out for couple weeks , and take a rest for a while. then I feel like my muscle gain up a little. I dont know why. and L-carnitine helps build muscle as well. The main physiological function of L-carnitine is to promote fat into energy, taking L-carnitine can help to reduce the water and muscle at the same time when reducing body fat and weight
     

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