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Minimum effective dose for CT?

Discussion in 'Cold Thermogenesis' started by sjoshua, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Just came back in from a walk in the woods... and a short nude swim in the tiny lake, just a minute maybe!
    But I could really feel the shrinkage :) :) :)
    Walked barefoot a few km after...

    My mom got rid of her severe asthma by just dipping in the river year round every morning (Finland)!
    Even small amounts can have big impact :)
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  2. brent-next

    brent-next Gold

    Okay I think I get it. I need to re-watch the Doug Wallace video:

    and the more of the neolithic diseases that he describes that I have, the longer I need to spend in cold water.

    Also older people will need to spend more time in cold water than younger people for optimal health.
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2017
  3. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK Gold

    I think it still goes back to heteroplasmy. Assuming that either had no Neolithic disease diagnosis, the façade is as expected for their chronological age ....Someone of 25 with the heteroplasmy rate of a typical 50 year old versus someone of 50 with the heteroplasmy rates typically expected in someone much younger/healthier ...:cool:. Which one needs more CT?

    Speaking as an older person ....:D
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  4. brent-next

    brent-next Gold

    The video above gets really interesting starting at 24:13 and again at 26:09. Basically he says, "As mitochondrial function declines, you decline over time and that's aging".

    He also says that if you take anatomy out of the center of medicine and put in energetics, you find that all the modern common diseases have the same pathophysiology.

    That's a radical statement, but he has the experiments to back it up.
  5. JanSz

    JanSz Gold


    Do you think PQQ (and some other)(L-carnitine, lipoic acid, and coenzyme Q10) as described in this article, would change anything?

    Rejuvenate Your Cells by Growing New Mitochondria
    Mitochondria are the only cell components (other than the nucleus) to possess their own DNA. This means mitochondria have the ability to replicate and increase their number within a single human cell.

  6. Michalis

    Michalis New Member

    Are the CT effects showing in a non-linear way even with consistent CTing? Like sun exposures?
  7. Dennis Durost

    Dennis Durost New Member

    Don't know if I'm spitting in the wind or not but am trying to spot treat midsection with a waist trimming belt stuffed with ice packs. Daily for one hour. A couple of people on youtube tried it and were pleased with the results. One guy lost an inch and a half on his waist after 30 days with an additional two inches coming off over a two month period after the icing was stopped. Worth a shot.
  8. brent-next

    brent-next Gold

    What you are trying to do is similar to the FDA approved fat reduction method called cool sculpting: http://www.coolsculpting.com/

    The problem with trying to do this at home is that it's easy to give yourself frostbite and that won't make you look better at all. If you can afford CoolSculpting and there is one near you, at least go for the free consult. You will at least learn a lot that might make it safer at home.

    The danger of doing this at home varies from wildly high to modest. Be careful. Read the research papers on Cool Sculpting.

    You may also want to do overall CT for the overall benefits too.
  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    There are two reasons why midsecion is large.

    1----The fat that lies just below your skin in most of your body -- the kind you can grab with your hands -- is called subcutaneous fat.
    2----In your belly, it’s called visceral fat because it builds up in the spaces between and around your viscera -- internal organs like your stomach and intestines.

    Increasing metabolism eventually should help with both. That correlates with easy to measure ----> temperature.
    If temperature is low (even just by 1/2 degree) it is going to be tough to loose that fat.

    There are many ways to talk about it, but that just makes for long discussions.

    Under tongue, should be 37C=98.6F
    but if you have:
    it is going to be tough to loose that fat

    Accurate digital thermometer helps.


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    Last edited: May 18, 2017
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  10. Dennis Durost

    Dennis Durost New Member

    Thanks for the information. I did look at the Cool Sculpting site and lucky I did as it mentioned that anyone with a hernia in the treated area would not be a good candidate. I have two. In addition to a hietal hernia I have one at my belly button. Could I still benefit from overall CT? If so, what is the recommended protocol? Thanks again!
  11. brent-next

    brent-next Gold

    Here's the link to the Cold Thermogenesis Easy Start Guide:
  12. Allin

    Allin New Member

    I placed a large zip lock bag filled with ice cubes inside another large zip lock bag on my belly for 15 minutes to start. Over time, I increased that time to one hour. I wore a compression shirt at first until I reached 60 minutes and then removed the compression shirt. I would drink 16 oz of clean water before the session. I also ate a can of sardines three times a week for the DHA and worked in 30-60 minutes of sun on my belly most everyday. Now the cost is just about zero....:mmpft:
  13. Dennis Durost

    Dennis Durost New Member

    Thanks Brent
    What were your results?
  14. Allin

    Allin New Member

    Went from 38 in jeans to 36 in jeans.
  15. Danco3636

    Danco3636 Silver

    Could it be from just general weight loss to to lifestyle changes mentioned? Did you weight drop of lean body mass change?
  16. Allin

    Allin New Member

    The love handles were reduced in size and it was harder to grab a chunk of fat around midsection.
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  17. Thanks for sharing! My friend and I are looking to spot CT in specific areas such as love handles and appreciate the n=1!
  18. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    16 oz =0.47 liter

    If you would limit your daily water intake below certain value
    that would force mitochondria to make up the required difference.
    Body fat would be used to make that water.

    to make one kilo=liter of water 1.1 kg of fat would be used.
    Rather efficient way of removing unnecessary body fat.

    Dr Boros drinks 0.2 - 0.25 liter of water daily.
    For his clients hi suggests 0.75L/day


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