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Ming's Optimal Journal

Discussion in 'My Optimal Journal' started by MingP, Jul 25, 2018.

  1. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I test to see where I am.
  2. MingP

    MingP New. Gold. Thirsty.

    Treating my journal as a learning platform. I have ZERO medical training officially.
    Everything I know so far is tied to Dr Kruse and other off shoots that I've come across in the past few years.
    Trying to tie it all together.

    Marik Protocol:


    Thoughts on Marik:
    I've been reading about Dr Fredrick Klenner, who used ultra high dose intravenous vit C to cure a host of different ailments.
    Wondering if the increase in dosage of vit C would aid in sepsis.
    Interestingly, he also throws in thiamin.



    Nearly every person with multiple sclerosis that I’ve met has had two things in common: a lack of hope, and a lack of vitamins. Klenner’s patients lacked neither, with a treatment schedule calling for massive quantities of B-vitamins to, said Klenner, “effect nerve repair.”He based his protocol in part on work, in the late 1930’s, by Stern from Columbia University, (who) was employing thiamin hydrochloride intraspinally with astonishing results in multiple sclerosis. He reported taking patients to the operating room on a stretcher, and following 30 mg thiamin given intraspinally, they would walk back to their room.” (24) While, Klenner commented, “the response was relatively transient,” it indicated that multiple sclerosis might be a severe form of avitaminosis.

    If one vitamin helped, two seemed likely to work better. Klenner writes: “Moore (25), in 1940, published a monograph on the use of high intravenous doses of nicotinic acid for the cure of multiple sclerosis. Moore employed a drug combination called ‘Nicobee.’ This preparation contained 100 mg nicotinic acid and 60 mg of thiamin in each 10 cc solution.” Moore, like Klenner, was influenced by earlier work showing that nerve degeneration results from multiple nutritional deficiencies. (26) Subsequently, Klenner would employ what may only be described as a wide ranging nutritional approach. His protocol for multiple sclerosis and myasthenia gravis follows, as described in his paper, “Response of Peripheral and Central Nerve Pathology to Mega-Doses of the Vitamin B-Complex and Other Metabolites” (27):

    Thiamin hydrochloride (B-1): “300 mg to 500 mg, 30 minutes before meals and bed hour, and during the night if awake” plus “400 mg daily by needle, given intramuscularly”

    Niacin (B-3): “100 mg to 3 grams, thirty minutes before meals and at bed hour, and also during the night if awake – whichever dose will produce a strong body flush.”

    Pyridoxine (B-6): “100 mg to 200 mg is given before meals and bed hour. At least 100 mg daily is given intramuscularly.”

    Cobalamin (B-12): “1000 mcg three times each week by needle.”

    Ascorbic Acid (C): “Ten to twenty grams should be taken daily by mouth in divided doses.”

    Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2): “40 mg to 80 mg given daily by needle I.M. 25 mg before meals and bed time.”

    Choline: “700 mg to 1400 mg after each meal and at bed hour.”

    Lecithin: “1200 mg soybean lecithin after each meal.”

    Magnesium: “100 mg after each meal.”

    Calcium gluconate: Two 10 grain tablets “after each meal and at bed hour.”

    Calcium panthothenate: 200 mg “after each meal and at bed hour.”

    Aminoacetic acid (glycine): “One heaping tablespoon of the powder in a glass of milk four times each day.”

    Zinc gluconate: “10 mg three times each day has some value in Myasthenia Gravis. Take several hours after vitamin B-2.”

    Additionally, Klenner gave vitamin E (800 to 1,600 IU/day), crude liver extract, adenosine-5-monophosphoric acid, and a multi-vitamin/ multi-trace-mineral tablet, which would have included some vitamin D. Klenner prescribed a high protein diet, and used available drugs to relieve tremor and stiffness. He might also specify linolenic acid, thyroid, fresh green vegetables, fresh fruits, a considerable quantity of milk (1 quart/day) and eggs (up to 6/day). Klenner required patients to limit fats, eat only whole grain bread, and specified “no junk foods, especially sweets.” (28)

    Klenner also offered what he considered to be an abbreviated, compromise program. “Should a given patient’s physician refuse to administer this schedule, I have this recommendation: One gram thiamin hydrochloride one hour before meals and at bed hour, and during the night if awake. Niacin taken at the same time, and in amounts sufficient to produce a good body flush. Two hundred mg calcium pantothenate and 100 mg pyridoxine before meals and at bed hour. Ten grams ascorbic acid, taken in divided doses. Amino acetic acid: one heaping tablespoon in a glass of milk, four times each day. Naturally, the full schedule will afford more dramatic response.” He declares: “We categorically make this statement: Any victim of multiple sclerosis who will dramatically flush with the use of nicotinic acid, and who has not yet progressed to the stage of myelin degeneration, as witnessed by sustained ankle clonus elicited in the orthodox manner, can be cured with the adequate employment of thiamin hydrochloride and other factors of the vitamin B complex in conjunction with essential proteins, lipids, carbohydrates and injectable crude liver.” (27)

    24. Sern EL. The intraspinal injection of vitamin B-1 for the relief of intractable pain, and for inflammatory and degenerative diseases of the central nervous system. Amer J Surg, 1938. 34:495.

    25. Moore MT. Treatment of multiple sclerosis with nicotinic acid and vitamin B-1. Archives Int Med, 1940, January, Vol 65, p 18.

    26. Zimmerman HH, Burack F. Lesions of the nervous system resulting from a deficiency of the vitamin B complex. Arch Pathology, 1932, February, Vol 13:207.

    27. Klenner FR. Response of peripheral and central nerve pathology to mega-doses of the vitamin B-complex and other metabolites. Parts 1 and 2. J Applied Nutrition, 1973, 25:16-40. Free full-text download at http://www.townsendletter.com/Klenner/KlennerProtocol_forMS.pdf Also: Klenner, FR. Treating multiple sclerosis nutritionally. Cancer Control J, undated. 2:3, p 16-20. And, a similar, comprehensive MS/MG protocol is to be found in the Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C: The Clinical Experiences of Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., reference 6, above.

    28. Program prescribed by Dr. Fred R. Klenner, a two-page itemized check-off list of nutritional recommendations for patients. Hand-dated January 25, 1979 by Irwin Stone, who added a notation that it had been “Rec’d from L. P. Institute.” (Linus Pauling Institute of Science and Medicine). Provided by Steve Stone.
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2019
  3. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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  4. MingP

    MingP New. Gold. Thirsty.

  5. MingP

    MingP New. Gold. Thirsty.

    Awesome. Thanks for pointing this out. I had not looked in depth into this.

    This is what makes the forum such an awesome place.
    I shall check out your links in short order. =)
  6. MingP

    MingP New. Gold. Thirsty.

  7. MingP

    MingP New. Gold. Thirsty.

    Just read tt Norwegian Salmon is pretty nasty shit.

    Minus the click bait title, the documentary seems legit, mainly because if you follow the money trail...
    "The fish farmers argue that they play a vital role in feeding the planet, and that they produce a crop worth $8 billion annually to Norway, accounting for about 8 percent of the country’s exports.
    The Norwegian government already has rules requiring farms to test the quantity of sea lice in pens and to take action if they exceed the limits.

    Along with his fellow Green Warriors, Mr. Oddekalv argues that the scale of fish farming in Norway is unsustainable, and that huge volumes of uneaten feed and fish excrement pollute the seabed. Over the years farmers have been criticized for using antibiotics in fish feed, something that is now barred in Norway, though additives designed to curb the lice also find their way into the food chain, Mr. Oddekalv argues.
    As Wild Salmon Decline, Norway Pressures Its Giant Fish Farms

    Farmed Norwegian Salmon World's Most Toxic Food
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  8. MingP

    MingP New. Gold. Thirsty.

    International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP)

    Didn't know they existed
  9. MingP

    MingP New. Gold. Thirsty.

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  10. MingP

    MingP New. Gold. Thirsty.

    Been reading more about Red Light

    We previously showed that blue (415 nm) and green (540 nm) wavelengths were more effective in stimulating osteoblast differentiation of human adipose-derived stem cells (hASC), compared to red (660 nm) and near-infrared (NIR, 810 nm).

    Intracellular calcium was higher after blue/green, and could be inhibited by the ion channel blocker, capsazepine. In the present study we asked what was the effect of these four wavelengths on proliferation of the hASC? When cultured in proliferation medium there was a clear difference between blue/green which inhibited proliferation and red/NIR which stimulated proliferation, all at 3 J/cm2.

    Blue/green reduced cellular ATP, while red/NIR increased ATP in a biphasic manner.
    Blue/green produced a bigger increase in intracellular calcium and reactive oxygen species (ROS).
    Blue/green reduced mitochondrial membrane potential (MMP) and lowered intracellular pH, while red/NIR had the opposite effect.

    Transient receptor potential vanilloid 1 (TRPV1) ion channel was expressed in hADSC, and the TRPV1 ligand capsaicin (5uM) stimulated proliferation, which could be abrogated by capsazepine. The inhibition of proliferation caused by blue/green could also be abrogated by capsazepine, and by the antioxidant, N-acetylcysteine. The data suggest that blue/green light inhibits proliferation by activating TRPV1, and increasing calcium and ROS.
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2019
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  11. Lite Nomad

    Lite Nomad Gold

    Here's what has worked for me personally:

    Drink loads of clean, non-fluoridated water (2-3ltrs) throughout the day. Icelandic Glacier water seems to be the lowest fluoride content available in SG. Water filters can't filter out fluoride and reverse osmosis is too expensive.

    1/2 teaspoon of Celtic Sea Salt, twice a day more if required (see labs below, myth "too much salt is bad for you" debunked ~ quality is important)

    Avoid alcohol, caffeine and stay away from EMF.. RF radiation is everywhere in SG. Good to get your home checked and shield accordingly if you haven't already.

    March 2019
    BUN/Creatinine: 29.77
    Sodium: 141 mmol/L
    Potassium: 3.6 mmol/L

    July 2019
    BUN/Creatinine: 11.80 (Aiming for <10 from here on)
    Sodium: 140 mmol/L
    Potassium: 4.8 mmol/L

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