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Low Cortisol Levels

Discussion in 'Optimal Labs' started by Eddie Garza, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. Eddie Garza

    Eddie Garza New Member

    Hi Folks, I hope everyone is doing well today. I've had extremely low daytime cortisol levels for years and have not been able to correct my situation. Please let me know what Blood/Saliva test results I should post that may assist in making a determination on how I can improve my situation.

    Currently I have the following available:

    6X diurnal saliva cortisol test results
    Iron and thyroid panels
    Blood serum testosterone, pregnenolone and aldosterone
    Comprehensive Metabolic panel
    CBC and other lab work

    Note: all these test results are recent.

    Best regards,
    Eddie
     
  2. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Post all available labwork.

    More important may be for you to learn about light and EMF that is suitable for human animal (and obey that).
    Describe your average 24hr routine from pov of exposure to light and EMF.
    Sleeping habits.
    You should have body temperature 36.6C - 37C

    .
     
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  3. Eddie Garza

    Eddie Garza New Member

    Hi JanSz,
    I have posted my information below. Please let me know if you need any additional information. Thanks

    My 24 hour routine is as follows:
    • I wake up at 4AM and just lay in bed until 5 to 5:30AM
    • I take a shower and have breakfast around 6:30AM. Breakfast is usually two eggs and some type of steak, breakfast sausage, turkey or chicken. Occasionally I have a vegetable protein shake in almond milk.
    • I head off to work about 7:15 AM and once at work I am on the computer until 5PM.
    • I arrive at home at 5:15PM and watch a little TV. I then start dinner. I do some house chores and then relax for the rest of the evening. I may get some sun after 6PM for about 20 to 30 minutes.
    • I am in bed at around 10PM. I take some melatonin about 30 minutes before bed, anywhere from 5-8 mgs. I usually fall asleep within 10 minutes. I wake up at around 4AM daily. On rare occasion if I happen to go to bed later, I will wake up later in the morning. Last night I watched the fight. I didn't get home until almost 1AM. I went to bed right away and fell asleep quickly and woke up at almost 7AM.
    • On the weekend, I will have breakfast around 7 to 8 AM. If there is sun I will get some sun exposure at around 8am for about 20-30 minutes. I may also get 15 minutes at around 11AM. I do my shopping for groceries and take care of any pending items. The rest of the day I spend doing housework, washing and ironing clothes. I get on the internet for a couple of hours to do some research . Sunday is mostly a day of rest, but may do some more shopping at the Farmers market.
    • My diet consists of natural beef, chicken, turkey, lamb, offal's, fish. I eat only organic vegetables. I drink only spring water or RO water.
    • In regards to light, I have tried to minimize exposure to artificial light in the evenings. I bought blue blocker glasses recently and have been wearing them at sunset (about 8pm CST). I removed all electrical devices from my bedroom. I turn off the wifi before bedtime and set my cell phone to airplane mode. My bedroom is completely dark.
    • I was eating dinner at around 7:30 to 8 PM daily but have recently starting eating dinner by 6PM.
    Lab Summary Report, RR=Reference Range
    Iron, Serum: 133 Range 40-155 ug/dL
    Iron Bind. Cap. : 317 Range 250-450 ug/dL
    UIBC : 184 Range 150-375
    Iron Saturation: 42 Range 15-55%
    Ferritin Serum 171, Range 30-400
    Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Ab: 5 Range 0-34 IU/mL
    Antithroglobulin Ab, Result: <1 Range 0.0-0.9 IU/mL
    Reverse T3, Serum, Result 21.3, Range 9.2-24.1 ng/dL
    TSH, Result: 1.5, Range 0.45-4.500 uIU/mL
    Triiodothyronine, Free Serum, Result 3.3, Range 2.0-4.4 pg/mL
    T4, Free (Direct), Result:1.28, Range: 0.82-1.77 ng/dL
    T4, 10.1 RR 4.5-12.1 mcg/dL

    Pregnenolone, MS Result: 73 ng/dL 01, Reference Range: Adults: <151
    Aldosterone LCMS, Serum, Result: 6.0 ng/dL Reference Range 0.0 - 30.0
    Homocysteine, Plasma: 8.3, RR 0.0-15.0
    C-Reactive Protein, Cardiac: 0.56, RR: Low <1.00, Avg.: 1.00-3.00, High: >3.00
    Vitamin D: 50.8, RR: 30-90
    Glucose 89, RR: 65-99 mg/dL
    Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 11 RR 7-25 mg/dL
    Creatinine 0.72, RR 0.70-1.33
    eGFR 104, RR > or equal to 60
    Sodium 139, RR 135-146 mmol/L
    Potassium: 4.5 RR 3.5-5.3 mmol/L
    Chloride: 102 RR: 98-110 mmol/L
    Carbon Dioxide 28, RR 19-30 mmol/L
    Calcium: 9.7 RR 8.6-10.3 mg/dL
    Vitamin B12: 659, RR: 211-946
    Protein, Total 7.3 RR 6.1-8.1 g/dL
    Albumin 4.9 RR: 3.6-5.1
    Globulin 2.4 RR: 1.9-3.7 g/dL (calc)
    Bilirubin, Total 0.7 RR 0.2-1.2 mg/dL
    Alkaline Phosphatase 58 RR 40-115 U/L
    AST 20 RR: 10-35 U/L
    ALT 23 RR: 9-46 U/L
    White Blood Cell Count 4.0 RR: 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
    Red Blood Cell Count 4.94 RR: 4.20-5.80 Million/uL
    Hemoglobin 14.3 RR: 13.2-17.1 g/dL
    Hematocrit 43.9 RR: 38.5-50.0%
    MCV 88.7 RR: 80.0-100.0 fL
    MCH 28.8 RR: 27.0-33.0 pg
    MCHC 32.5 32.0-36.0 g/dL
    RDW 15.1 RR: 11.0-15.0 %
    Platelet Count 167 RR: 140-400 Thousand/uL
    Absolute Neutrophils 2560 RR 1500-7800 cells/uL
    Absolute Lymphocytes 1100 RR 850-390 cells.uL
    Absolute Monocytes 264 RR 200-950 cells/uL
    Absolute Bosinophils 56 RR 15-500 cells/uL
    Absolute Basophils 20 RR 0-200 Cells/uL
    Neurophils 64.0 RR %
    Lymphocytes 27.5 RR %
    Monocytes 6.6 RR %
    Basophils 0.5 RR %
    FSH 3.4 RR 1.6-8.0 mIU/mL
    LH 1.8, RR 1.5-9.3 mIU/mL
    Prolactin 3.9, RR 2.0-18.0 ng/mL
    Testosterone 308, RR 241-827 ng/dL
    Note: In December my Testosterone level was below the low reference range. In December 2014 my Testosterone was 243 on a reference range of 348-1197. I started supplementing with a natural aromatase inhibitor (Stinging Nettle) about 6 weeks before my recent test. I also started supplementing with Fenugreek as well.
    Cortisol (blood) 11.0 RR 4.0-22.0 mcg/dL
    (Note: my blood draw was done at 9AM. Was supposed be drawn at 8AM)
    Urinalysis: PH 7.0. RR 5.0-8.0
    RDW 15.1 RR 11.0-15.0
    Hematocrit 43.9 RR 38.5-50.0%
    White Blood Cell count 4.0, RR 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
    Red Blood cell count: 4.94, RR 4.20-5.80 million/ uL
    *complete CBC available
    Total Cholesterol: 141 RR 125-199 mg/dL
    HDL: 39 RR => 40
    Triglycerides: 89 RR less than 150 mg/dL
    LDL: 84 less than 130 mg.dL
    Non LDL: 102, less than 160mg.dL
    Total Chol/HDL 3.6, RR: less than or equal to 5.0
    Glucose: 89, RR 65-99

    Average Daily Tempurature @ 3, 6 and 9 hours after waking
    Date/Average Temp.
    04/18/15: 97.7
    04/19/15: 97.8
    04/20/15: 97.8
    04/21/15: 97.8
    04/22/15: 97.8
    04/23/15: 97.7
    04/24/15: 97.7
    04/25/15: 97.7
    04/26/15: 97.8
    04/27/15: 97.8
    04/28/15: 97.8
    04/29/15: 97.8
    04/30/15: 97.8
    Cortisol (Saliva) Test Results
    Cortisol 8AM, 0.155ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.1 - 0.9 (LOW)
    Cortisol 12PM, 0.128ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.1 – 0.3 (LOW)
    Cortisol 5PM, 0.015ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.06 – 0.19 (EXTREMELY LOW)
    Cortisol 9PM, 0.010 ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.04 – 0.10 (EXTREMELY LOW)
    Cortisol 2AM, 0.194 ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.04 – 0.1 (VERY HIGH)
    Cortisol 4AM, 0.528ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.1 – 0.9 (EXTREMELY HIGH)
    DHEA (Saliva) 8AM 4.73 ng/mL Range 2.80 - 12.70, the 4.73 is an average of three samples in one day.

    Notes on myself:
    • I am 58 years of age, 5' 9" in height, 172 lbs
    • Symptoms of a leaky gut
    • Allergies
    • Very dry skin
    • Eye inflammation and gritty eyes in the evenings
    • Inflammation in joints
    • Back hurts often.
    • Can't handle too much sodium, even sea salt.
    • I get startled easily,
    • Super sensitive to perfumes, chemicals, etc
    • Chronic constipation
    • Muscle loss
    • Tire around my waist
    • My arms and legs hurt when I wake up. Arms get cold also.
    • My muscles get sore easily after physical activity.
    • Wake up with a headache after physical activity the day before.
    • If I have starchy food for dinner I wake up with a headache.
    • Extreme hair loss over the last 13 years.
    • Was diagnosed with a mild case of sleep apnea about a year ago
    • I rarely exercise because I normally feel drained.
    My health issues started about 13 years ago when I had a large number of amalgam fillings removed by a non-biological dentist who had no idea about safe removal. My health wasn't the greatest before removing my amalgams, but a lot better than after removing the amalgams fillings. If I could go back in time I would have my filling removed. Prior to removing my amalgams about 10 years prior, I was under a loss of mental and physical stress. I was in a terrible marriage, was working in a job I hated, was going to night school and had a daughter who was born with a congenital heart defect and consequently had open heart surgery. During this time my extremities starting getting cold whenever I was in a cold environment and this symptom has continued to this day.
    In regards to my low cortisol which I have had for years, according to the individuals I have spoken to, my only option at this points seems to be Hydrocortisone. I am considering this as an option, but would like to correct it in a more natural way if possible. Any comments are appreciated. Thanks
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2015
  4. Eddie Garza

    Eddie Garza New Member

    Can someone please take a look at my lab work and provide their opinion on how I can turn my health around? Thank you.
     
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  5. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Getting it together.
    ------------------------

    I have numerous issues, some of which are low adrenal function (daytime saliva cortisol are extremely low, nighttime levels are high), low testosterone, leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, candida overgrowth, sleep apnea, always tired, body aches, inflammation, frequent headaches, etc.

    I live In south Texas. It's a small city named Edinburg. It's about 230 miles south of San Antonio.

    I am not feeling well. I am completely wiped out both physically and mentally. I try to rest, but I always wake up at 4am like clockwork and feel just as tired as when I went to bed. What I wouldn't give to get a night of sleep that made me feel rested and energized in the morning.

    I have been drinking R/O and spring water for over 15 years. I even cook with purified water.

    As for seafood, I rarely eat it because of the mercury. I eat mostly natural chicken, turkey, lamb, beef, and a little pork.

    I went to bed at 10:30PM last night and was wide awake by 3:30AM this morning. I look forward to the day I sleep 8 hours in a night. Seven hours sounds pretty good too.

    You mentioned that I should eat four hours before bedtime. What if a person's sugar level is possibly dropping in the night and waking them up? I think I may have that issue.

    It was recommended that I eat my BAB within 30 minutes of rising. So if I am currently waking up at 3:30AM, I should be eating my BAB by 4AM? Normally I usually lie in bed until 5:30 to 6:00AM, get up and shower then eat around 6:30.

    I will get some candles and red lamps and look into the salt lamps. Do the red light bulbs need to be incandescent light bulbs?

    Yes I have the f.lux on my home PC and Lap top. I installed in about 6 months ago. It really has helped with the brightness issue. I just installed it on my PC at work yesterday, where I spend about 8 hours on the computer daily.

    Currently there is no one in my life. My current health situation and lack of sleep does not put me in a position to be with anyone and give them the quality attention they deserve. My health has cost me a wife and a few girlfriends.
     
  6. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Pregnenolone, MS Result: 73 ng/dL 01, Reference Range: Adults: <151
    FSH 3.4 RR 1.6-8.0 mIU/mL
    LH 1.8, RR 1.5-9.3 mIU/mL
    Prolactin 3.9, RR 2.0-18.0 ng/mL
    Testosterone 308, RR 241-827 ng/dL
    Note: In December my Testosterone level was below the low reference range. In December 2014 my Testosterone was 243 on a reference range of 348-1197. I started supplementing with a natural aromatase inhibitor (Stinging Nettle) about 6 weeks before my recent test. I also started supplementing with Fenugreek as well.
    Cortisol (blood) 11.0 RR 4.0-22.0 mcg/dL
    (Note: my blood draw was done at 9AM. Was supposed be drawn at 8AM)


    97.7F=36.5C

    Cortisol (Saliva) Test Results
    Cortisol 8AM, 0.155ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.1 - 0.9 (LOW)
    Cortisol 12PM, 0.128ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.1 – 0.3 (LOW)
    Cortisol 5PM, 0.015ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.06 – 0.19 (EXTREMELY LOW)
    Cortisol 9PM, 0.010 ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.04 – 0.10 (EXTREMELY LOW)
    Cortisol 2AM, 0.194 ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.04 – 0.1 (VERY HIGH)
    Cortisol 4AM, 0.528ng/ml Ref. Range: 0.1 – 0.9 (EXTREMELY HIGH)
    DHEA (Saliva) 8AM 4.73 ng/mL Range 2.80 - 12.70, the 4.73 is an average of three samples in one day.

    I am 58 years of age, 5' 9" in height, 172 lbs

    In regards to my low cortisol which I have had for years, according to the individuals I have spoken to, my only option at this points seems to be Hydrocortisone. I am considering this as an option, but would like to correct it in a more natural way if possible.
     
  7. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Hi Eddie,
    Welcome.
    Sorry to hear about your problems.

    I think your pituitary may be sluggish.
    That shows in your low testosterone an a fact that your pituitary have not got your LH & FSH to higher levels.
    Have you been hit in the head, specially frontally?

    I am working on assumption that your problems are not related to your removing amalgam's feelings,
    but dr Kruse still keeps his amalgam's.
    ----
    You are missing some important tests.
    Estradiol E2
    Estrone E1
    DHT
    progesterone
    fasting insulin
    PSA
    Fatty Acids

    If you have it available, it would help if future testing you would do at LabCorp.
    It would also help if you could get
    IGF-1
    IGFBP3

    If you would do tests at LabCorp I would be much more specific about what test are preferable.
    -------------------------------------

    Remember I am not a doctor.
    I am 75yo man, 5'8", 155-160#

    -------------------------------------
    Lets start first without need for a doctor.
    All below cost $$ but you do not need any script from doctor.
    But if you now could get script for IGF-1 and IGFBP3 that would help.
    -------------------------------------

    Eventually, being 58 yo, you will likely need testosterone supplementation,
    but,
    many doctors will be telling you that you do not need HCG, which is bs.
    Even if you would get script for HCG, supplys are erratic and it cost a lot.
    I suggest that you get HCG online:

    Assuming 200iu/EOD every other day
    365/2*200=36500, 40000iu per year
    5 Ampoule/s, 50000iu can be had for US$ 144.90

    HCG mimics LH. LH stimulates testicles to produce testosterone.
    Too much LH may raise E2 estradiol, above dose should be a middle of the road.
    If it does not work, keep using it anyhow, but you will need actual testosterone and for that you will need doctor's script.
    The type of testosterone that will be good for you will depend on your DHT level that you can find only after testosterone use.
    It will be good to start with injectable testosterone (cost less).
    Androgel 1.62% should work in any case (expensive).

    If you will go with using HCG, you will need additionally Bacteriostatic water, sterile ampoules, insulin syringes for injection, syringes for mixing

    and sterile alcohol pads, all available via internet.

    Prolonged use of testostrone without HCG, in most cases will cause athrophy of testicles and scrotum.
    Keep that in mind. Girlfriends like to play wih them, you need them to make girls happy.
    Just in case you wonder, it is reversible situation, but slow.

    -------------------
    Looks like your whole steroid hormone panel is low.
    Starting with low total cholesterol. (you will have to eat lots of fats)(do not eat fish oils)
    Food and life style per dr Kruse is of immense help.
    Sleep/lay in the bed 7-8hrs in totally dark bedroom.
    First thing getting of the bed, look few minutes straight at the sun (eylids closed)(kills melatonin, boosts cortisol)
    shower in cold only water then BAB
    BAB=50% of your daily food intake (it also works on getting Circadian Rhythm Better)
    Dinner ends 3-4 hrs before bed time.
    Have 1-2 tbsp of sugar next to you in the bed. If you start sweating in middle of the night, eat sugar, if it helps it was low sugar that made you

    sweat.


    There are other details. Rather than making zillion of educated guesses do this tests.
    You can buy them over internet, go to the recomended place to draw blood then get results over e-mail.
    You will have to communicate via e-mail.
    Get this two tests, post results here.
    This tests will be your major information to build up your supplemnts list.


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    --------------------------------------------------
    In any case monitoring progress will require blood tests.
    Check my posts here:
    http://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/pg-e2-ratio.6427/
    PG/E2 ratio??

    There is a way to buy blood tests online, then do the testing at LabCorp.

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    Use one pill before or right after you are done looking at the sun when getting of the bed.
    Another about 10AM.

    This should work on preg., progesterone and rather quickly it should raise your cortisol.
    This is just a start, the process to work must be monitored by blood tests.
    We will talk about that latter.
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    Prescriptions for lots of testing you can buy over internet.
    List of outfits that do that is in (PG/E2 ratio??) thread.
    Until you find out that you must use testosterone it is DIY project.



    Good luck


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  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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    City of Edinburg, TX covers 2 Area Codes
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  10. Eddie Garza

    Eddie Garza New Member

    Thank you for replying JanSz. I greatly appreciate it. I will reply back after absorbing all the information you provided. Best regards.
     
  11. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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  12. Eddie Garza

    Eddie Garza New Member

    Hi JanSz, I appreciate all your help. I had my DHEA, Serum level checked and got my results today. My level came in at 180 on a reference interval of 31-701. I would say I am on the lower end.

    Regards,
    Eddie
     
  13. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    That corresponds to your saliva:
    DHEA (Saliva) 8AM 4.73 ng/mL Range 2.80 - 12.70, the 4.73 is an average of three samples in one day.
    ------
    The blood test you did, was it DHEA or DHEAs
    what lab did that test
    what are the units

    It is easier if you would just copy all test report pages and post it here.

    ..
    Get enough DHEA pills specified above, until you get

    DHEAs------(350-500) μg/dL men

    -----

    Blood tests for DHEA are sometimes erratic.
    DHEAs test is more stable.

    ....................

    s in DHEAs stands for sulfate

    cholesterol sulfate
    vit D sulfate
    pregnenolone sulfate

    eat lots of sulfur --->>garlic, onions, leeks, MSM


    .............
     
  14. Eddie Garza

    Eddie Garza New Member

    Hello again, The test was DHEA not the DHEAs. The units were ng/dL. The lab work was done by LabCorp. What method is more reliable? Blood serum or saliva for DHEA/DHEA-s? Thanks and best regards.
     
  15. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    On a post above, I just said that DHEAs is more stable than DHEA.
    But you have DHEA via saliva and blood, plus feeling bad, you are definitely low.

    Now, eat that 100mg/day I mentioned above, hope that it does not interfere with anything else (so you will be able to take it). After sometime (a month) it would be a good idea to retest and adjust dose.

    You cant solve all your problems with one pill.
    Work on the rest.
    The fact that you may not feel any different taking DHEA pills means nothing.
    Keep taking them.


    ....
     
  16. Eddie Garza

    Eddie Garza New Member

    Hi JanSz, FWIW, these are my saliva test results from 2014 and 2013.

    January 2014 (MyMedLabs/Endo Screen Research)
    DHEA Sulfate Panel (Saliva)

    Test Name Result Units Range
    DHEA-S 8AM 4.73 ng/ml 2.80 --- 12.70
    DHEA-S 8PM 2.49 ng/ml 2.70 --- 9.00
    DHEA-S 12AM 4.06 ng/ml 1.80 --- 8.1
    September 2013 (ZRT Laboratory)
    Test Name Result Units Range

    Estradiol (saliva) 1.1 pg/ml 0.5-2.2
    Progesterone (saliva) 40 pg/ml 12-100
    Testosterone (saliva) 52 pg/ml 44-148 (Age Dependent)
    DHEAS (saliva) 13.2 ng/ml 2-23 (Age Dependent)

    Do you think that supplementing with DHEA/Pregnenolone could possibly help my low testosterone and/or low adrenal function? Thank you for all your help.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2015
  17. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    low DHEA is a low redox sign. It is really linked to IL 6 production in the brain. I used it to give me a good idea of how bad the environment the patient is in. You need to read the CPC 1 blog. http://www.jackkruse.com/hormone-cpc-1-dhea/
     
  18. Eddie Garza

    Eddie Garza New Member

    Thank you Dr. Kruse. I will definitely read that article. I have read some of your writing, but not all. You have a wealth of information and I applaud you. I recommended your writings to a lady I met online and she said she could stop reading your material. Best regards.
     
  19. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    [ quote="Eddie Garza, post: 163866, member: 13794"]Hi JanSz, FWIW, these are my saliva test results from 2014 and 2013.

    January 2014 (MyMedLabs/Endo Screen Research)
    DHEA Sulfate Panel (Saliva)

    Test Name Result Units Range
    DHEA-S 8AM 4.73 ng/ml 2.80 --- 12.70
    DHEA-S 8PM 2.49 ng/ml 2.70 --- 9.00
    DHEA-S 12AM 4.06 ng/ml 1.80 --- 8.1
    September 2013 (ZRT Laboratory)
    Test Name Result Units Range

    Estradiol (saliva) 1.1 pg/ml 0.5-2.2
    Progesterone (saliva) 40 pg/ml 12-100
    Testosterone (saliva) 52 pg/ml 44-148 (Age Dependent)
    DHEAS (saliva) 13.2 ng/ml 2-23 (Age Dependent)

    Do you think that supplementing with DHEA/Pregnenolone could possibly help my low testosterone and/or low adrenal function? Thank you for all your help.[/quote]

    The bottom line is that you should evaluate your situation using
    mostly blood tests.
    Saliva is useful to check cortisol and melatonin, specially the shape of your rhythm
    Urine tests are also useful.

    When you would use DHEA and pregnenolone pills,
    specially when additionally you would use supplement list build on
    results from Spectracell Micronutrient test you can expect to make big progress
    in area that some call Adrenal Fatigue.

    You should not expect big progress in raising testosterone.
    It works that way (sometimes) with ladies, but not with men.
    That is, you could expect some testosterone raise as much as lady would,
    which in men counts for nothing.

    Your testosterone (may) raise when you will start using HCG,
    providing
    that your testicles are capable of producing additional testosterone.

    I mentioned before that your pituitary is suspect (low LH when testosterone is low).
    That made me suspect that your GH, growth hormone may also be low.
    If GH is low, correcting that deficiency could help a lot (after 6-9+ months of using it).
    You would then use Norditropin (rather than making "savings" using other brands.
    You would not waste your good will and energy, time and $$ on peptides.

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    Make sure that you follow dr Kruse advice.


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    Last edited: May 11, 2015
  20. Penny

    Penny New Member

    You could try taking phosphatidyl serine before bed plus glycine (3 mg) on an empty stomach - it'll help with the spike in cortisol as your body tries to get enough sugar into your brain but the side effect of that is cortisol spikes - and you wake up -
    http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/item01669/Glycine?oldItem=00128

    Candida can also be keeping you up - so take a bug bomb before bed - maybe some pau de arco or sacharomyces boulardi :

    http://www.amazon.com/Source-Natura...F8&qid=1431377432&sr=8-6&keywords=pau+de+arco

    http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formul...77480&sr=1-1&keywords=saccharomyces+boulardii

    Get a red incandescent lightbulb from Lowes ($3.00) and read before bed or shine it near your eyes... this is for your circadean clock -

    Get totally off of media and unplug everything or cut the breakers and of course, check if you have a smart meter -

    Put some ice packs around your carotid artery - that along with the red light will make you sleepy -

    Since you have clock issues and blood sugar issues - avoid carbs - if you're going to have a carb, have it in the morning or at the latest lunch - when you think of carbs, think of them as a blue light signal that will wake you up - think of fat as a red light signal that will knock you out - so, a good dinner would be seafood with coconut oil/bacon along with asparagus covered in garlic pluc garlic mushrooms - chased with 300 mg of molybdenum...

    This will help solved the blood sugar spike at 3:00A.M. -

    You must eat seafood - every day - you must avoid blue light and EMF - you must wear blue blockers at night if there is a light on starting at sundown:
    http://www.amazon.com/Uvex-S0360X-U...=1431377851&sr=8-2&keywords=uvex+blue+blocker

    My favorite adaptagens for this is sublingual pantethine and rhodiola:
    http://www.amazon.com/Life-Extensio...=UTF8&qid=1431377908&sr=1-9&keywords=rhodiola

    http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formul...TF8&qid=1431378018&sr=1-1&keywords=pantathene

    lots of coconut oil and bone broths - the more fat, the better - avocados too -

    Soak in Epsom Salts - fabulous for you - it'll help your redox/detox sulfur and magnesium -

    Oh yes, take magnesium malate (will chelate aluminum plus help with the Kreb's cycle plus help with dehydration)
    http://www.amazon.com/Source-Natura...d=1431378217&sr=1-1&keywords=magnesium+malate

    You would be amazed how important it is to avoid blue light and add DHA in the form of seafood -
     
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