Z and others, are you doing the combo of Q10+d ribose. I bought a big bin of it, so I figure I enjoy my a.m. drink with it so much I'm not going to look to deeply into JK's comment that "it doesn't process like sugar" hehe. Pick your battles!

Also, I don't notice the appetite changes with it that I would with real sugar.

 

I don't take any co q 10. When I say to use it like 'sugar' is for the taste alone. It tastes like a sugar so I like this instead of using too much sugar (even from natural sources). I do like honey in small amounts and I don't shun it.

I'm a little confused. If it's not processed like real sugars, maybe it does not have to be a pick your battles scenario.

That's probably a good thing and supports the notion that it doesn't act like 'real' sugar. Yay. lol


Either way, I think I will gain something from this supp. hehe. Co q 10 I won't bother with if I have beef heart. If I had a million $$$ would I investigate in it a little further? Sure. Then again I try to keep my supps simple and logic tells me that something about co q 10 I can get better from my food whereas d-ribose seems like something special that is better derived from supplement form. Also, co q 10 has a lot of issues pertaining to heat level etc. I was confused about something JK (or someone else?) sayign they put it in their coffee (in addition to the d-ribose)...but then if you open the capsule of co q 10 the fat based co q 10 gets destroyed immediately upon exposure to air/oxygen.

I assume that for d-ribose it can handle being in a warm beverage....such as coffee or tea...? I only drink water, coffee and tea. For water alone, it would taste too gross. So far coffee is the tastiest (versus tea).

 

Lyndra, how did your sleep go down hill? Was it merely in length or did you feel unrested? Could it be theorized/tested that if sleep is a bit less but the quality is improved? Example 7 hrs of very high quality sleep vs. 8 hrs of lesser quality...?


I am curious and I shall test (to varying degrees) on myself. I will see how my sleep goes tonight.

 

That's what I was thinking. I never heard you say that before, not even in private phone consults. It's all about context.

 

Cavemam I'm taking ubiquinol, lotsa magnesium in different forms and l-carnitine. I've been taking them most of the time for the past 2 years...though stopped for a trial period (except the magnesium) when I realised I was getting similar benefits outta CT.

Curious to see about sleep tonight too!

 

Sleep has been bad for almost 2 years since I quit synthetic hormone replacement cold turkey. I started BHRT a year ago and am still trying to get everything dialed in (thyroid, adrenals, methylation, etc.). So my n=1 on sleep is not going to be applicable to many out there. I log it based on how many times I wake up during the night and how long it takes me to get back to sleep.

 

Lyndra, strange how the synthetic hormones did not cause (or seemed to have caused you) any troubles? Unless ...if there was a reason outside of synthetic that you quit cold turkey.

I hope you can figure things out soon. Hormones is a sucky thing to have to figure out. Ugh.

Ok, so maybe for your case it was not the d-ribose 'per se' that affected your sleep....

Now there are lots of different experiments I want to try with this d-ribose. lol

 

Lyndra - have you looked into the work done on relevance of amino acids to things like sleep? My husband is back on Thursday - so if not perhaps we can get our oysters in on Friday and discuss!!!

 

No, I haven't looked at that. Anytime I've tried taking aminos, I've gotten a migraine. Jack says that indicates poor mitochondrial function.

Now I am wondering whether my hot flash episodes are related to iodine (I'm convinced they are due to estrogen deficiency; I'm on plenty and the hot flashes don't feel the same). I was going hyperthyroid and stopped Armour several weeks ago but still get mild hot flashes every couple of hours, day and night. I just read of a woman whose insomnia and hot flashes went away after stopping supplemental iodine so I tapered and am now off that.

Oh, and I'm up for oysters any time!

 

Maybe not so strange. Because of a hysterectomy at 35, I had very low hormone levels so the synthetics were filling in for what I didn't have. I used to sleep like a rock - my husband used to tease me about how easy it was for me to fall and stay asleep. I quit because I was afraid of cancer from the synthetic estrogen.

I think things would have gone downhill eventually but I accelerated the process by depriving my body of hormones which caused my sleep to fall apart. I kept up exercising and tanked my adrenals and hit bottom. I think we're doing well at getting the female hormones dialed in but something is still not quite right.

I have been changing a lot in the last month (stopped Armour; stopped iodine; added d-ribose, Q10 and lipoic acid; added lactoferrin, Vit E, C, and zinc; decreased EMF exposure) so who know effect any one thing is having. Nothing like having a multitude of variables to contend with

 

I took 10g d-Ribose again yesterday and woke again at 4am this morning! I did go back to sleep...probably within half an hour, but I am sticking with just 5g d-Ribose today (I take it in the am) to see if it makes any difference.

I know we've taken the original topic off course so I'll post and further updates in the d-Ribose thread where it might be more useful for anyone researching or whatever later on?

 

I think Stephen has clarified his issues on the blog comments of EMF 4 quite well recently........I think this thread has run its course.