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Josh's Journal

Discussion in 'My Optimal Journal' started by Josh (Paleo Osteo), Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Looks like this is the thing to do!

    As many have figured out i am an osteopath, so most time is spent trying to optimise others
    in the last year i have been finding the loss of my own electrons to others is taking its toll, so i have been putting more focus into not becoming "the unhealed healer!"

    on the weekend we drove through a town founded on mineral springs
    i went to the magnesium spring and filled quite a few bottles

    the water there is extremely sulphuric, smells v v strong
    i mixed it with some glass bottled italian spring water to make it easier to drink

    made a prawn head broth with one bottle

    been drinking the rest all week, a marked change in energy from just drinking bottled spring water...
     
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  2. nonchalant

    nonchalant Silver

    Good idea, Josh, diluting the sulphur water. I used to wonder why there were towns named "Sulphur Springs" and rivers similarly named. I thought that it wouldn't be something I would like to advertise, lol! Guess people were smarter a century ago.
     
  3. if you ever go to NZ and visit Rotorua you will wonder why anyone would want to live there because of the smell
    i guess its the seismic activity and energy
     
  4. Gagnrad

    Gagnrad New Member

    Are you in New Zealand, Josh?
     
  5. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Hi Josh .....
     
  6. hey mate, no im in Australia, my wife is from NZ so we are back there a bit :)
     
  7. Gagnrad

    Gagnrad New Member

    You get to enjoy both then. That's good.
     
  8. thought i'd post the first set of labs that i did on myself, it was probably over a year ago now, and i did them out of interest from an N=1 but i havent really followed up much
    Im largely asymptomatic, besides some tiredness of an evening, usually after dealing with patients all day, which i find zaps my energy a lot, especially the difficult personalities. hands on work tends to result in a direct loss of electrons to the client!

    anyways, the liposcan LDL i think is normal for me because i am APOE3/4
    other polymorphisms i have are homozygous -174G>C IL6_2, Val158Met COMT, and 213T>C CLOCK
    meaning seasonal sleep is v important etc

    Liposcan

    Fat Metabolism (SI units)
    Cholesterol 5.30 + mmol/l < 5.17
    Triglycerides 1.13 mmol/l < 1.7
    LIPOSCAN (SI units)
    HDL 1.09 mmol/l > 1.03
    LDL 3.70 + mmol/l < 3.36
    LDL/HDL 3.4 + < 3
    VLDL 0.52 mmol/l < 0.59
    IDL 1.37 mmol/l < 1.66

    - non pathogen LDL subfractions (SI units)
    LDL1 1.11 mmol/l < 1.5
    LDL2 0.10 mmol/l < 0.8
    - pathogen LDL subfractions (SI units)
    LDL3 0.34 + mmol/l < 0.18
    LDL4 n.d. mmol/l n.d.
    LDL5 n.d. mmol/l n.d.
    LDL6 n.d. mmol/l n.d.
    LDL7 n.d. mmol/l n.d.

    Oxidised LDL (oxLDL)
    LDLox <90.0 ng/ml 90 - 133.2
    The oxLDL is under normal range and thus does not indicate an increased risk.

    Fatty acid - FA - status
    Tl saturated FA 910 mg/l 667 - 1287
    Tl mono uns.FA 707 mg/l 480 - 1000
    Omega 3 FA 219 + mg/l 85 - 195
    Omega 6 FA 1162 mg/l 1037 - 1760
    Quot. sat./uns. 0.44 0.25 - 0.75
    Quot. om 6/om 3 5.3 5 - 14
    - saturated acid -
    Myristoleic a. 25 - mg/l 28 - 88
    Palmitoleic a. 658 mg/l 602 - 1076
    Stearic a. 208 mg/l 191 - 324
    Arachidic a. 6 mg/l 5 - 9
    Behenic a. 13 mg/l 13 - 23
    - mono unsaturated acid -
    Palmitolenic a. 48 - mg/l 60 - 171
    Oleic a. 659 - mg/l 666 - 1266

    Test Result Unit Reference Value
    Alpha linol. a. 19.0 mg/l 15 - 41.8
    Eicosapentae.a. 57 mg/l 32 - 67
    Docosahexaen.a. 143.0 + mg/l 65 - 102
    - poly unsaturated acid omega 6 -
    Linoleic a. 814 - mg/l 827 - 1363
    y-linolenic a. 10 mg/l 10 - 31
    Homo-y-linol.a. 29 - mg/l 35 - 72
    Arachidonic a. 309 mg/l 196 - 337
    The fatty
     
  9. i like how they write DHA as a + haha
     
  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Omega 3 FA 219 + mg/l 85 - 195
    Omega 6 FA 1162 mg/l 1037 - 1760

    O6/O3=1162/219=5.3/1

    Eicosapentae.a. 57 mg/l 32 - 67 ------ EPA close to top but within range
    Docosahexaen.a. 143.0 + mg/l 65 - 102 --------- DHA over the range



    Arachidonic a. 309 mg/l 196 - 337 ------ AA close to the top

    AA/DHA=309/143=2.16

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    Pretty good results.
    How have you accomplished that?
    I am still busy trying to get rid of excess of EPA from prior fish and krill oils use.
    It takes forever to clear it out, no matter how many oysters and similar, I eat.
    Excess EPA suppresses both of mine DHA and AA.

    ...............
    Palmitolenic a. 48 - mg/l 60 - 171-------------low

    On my list I have Palmitoleic Acid, C16:1w7 (and do not have Palmitolenic)(so not sure if my comment applies)

    mine is also low but within range, I started using lef.org Provinal,
    1/day first, now changed to 2/day
    likely 2/day would be better start


    I tried Red Palm oil but seen no improvement.


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    y-linolenic a. 10 mg/l 10 - 31 ----------GLA
    Homo-y-linol.a. 29 - mg/l 35 - 72 ----DGLA

    both are low, but your AA is ok, so no action need.

    Mine are also low, but mine AA is low, I blame EPA for all that.
    Rather than using the usual Evening Primerose oil (GLA) I use Black Currant oil (GLA), supposedly it is better in raising DGLA.


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    Last edited: Jun 11, 2014
  11. not sure how it got great JanSz, this was from back when i was really just following paleo (but my own instincts told me i needed more shellfish at the time...)
    i was raised on cod liver oil and fish and paleo style eating basically, for most of my childhood, so i have to wonder whether that has something to do with it....
     
  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    So far so good.

    But you are still missing on GLA and DGLA
    you may want to figure out why.

    Then there are many more different fatty acids.


    ..
     
  13. Probably another SNP...maybe in the cardiometabolic profile
    I never knew much about n6 benefits tbh, i'll look it ip
     
  14. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    you actually need more N6 over N3 to build a brain that works........when you have too many you get neuro degeneration, chronic pain, depression, and many other disorders of protein folding
     
  15. 5:1 is therefore pretty close to optimal i guess, but missing some GLA in the 6s
     
  16. PaulG

    PaulG New Member

    Josh,

    Where did you get tested? I assume not through your doctor? Is it available to folk in other aussie states? Was it expensive?
     
  17. PaulG

    PaulG New Member

  18. hey paul
    i offer it through my clinic, but it can be used privately also by the general public
    its not expensive, 350 or so for the lot
     
  19. yes, i believe it should be about 5:1 or between 3:1 and 6:1...
    looks like my ratio is cool but missing some GLA
    will try the blackcurrant oil...
     
  20. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Josh;
    while you are at it, consider tightening definition.

    What is actually meant by ratio.
    Each class, O6 and O3 have numerous different fatty acids.

    Does that proportion means O6/O3
    where
    O6=sum of all participants (by weight, by molar participation, by something else)

    O3=sum of all participants (by weight, by molar participation, by something else)

    or
    O6/O3=AA/DHA

    or
    something else.



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    I see ratios being thrown here and there,
    I do not see clear definition of ratio


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