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I need help with my music education.......

Discussion in 'The Cave' started by caroline, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. Anyone have any info??
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  2. Sara S

    Sara S New Member

    Have u seen this one ? One of my favorite covers!

     
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  3. Dan2

    Dan2 Pedantic schlub


    The notes opera singers sing are affected by the reference pitch and tuning intonation system. Some pitches are more stressful to the singer's body when using opera technique and some pitches are easier to sing with good technique. The reasoning explaining it gets into the microcosm macrocosm ideas about the human body and the solar system. So maybe when the solar system changes then opera singers can sing better at new pitches, but apparently opera singers have been preferring some pitches more than others since the Renaissance, so I guess the solar system changes slowly. And the pitches being stressful or easier has a lot to do with the intensity of the technique control and volume of opera singers; someone singing jazz or blues or something with more casual technique could sing at A440 for a hundred years and it's not gonna damage their voice, but an opera singer might notice damage to the clarity and control of their voice quickly enough to end their career early. But if the resonance of some pitches and harmonics can harm the physiology of the opera singer because of the intensity of the resonance, maybe a rock singer's voice being amplified and standing in front of the PA would affect their voice quickly (still doesn't matter much though, unless they're singing in a hair metal band where they want to sound like opera technique, because they can just sing with a new voice -- like Bob Dylan's voice. An opera singer's technique and voice is like a representative of an ideal body (especially when it's a fat Italian girl), and so the differences affect their role as a singer and whether they're considered a technically good opera singer of that voice type. If Dylan's ideal is how he's heard, I guess okay, sure, Bob, chain smoke and get in a motorcycle accident and play and sing at any reference pitch you want to and it still sounds good. Or like Mick Jagger on Monkey Man -- be careful about the pitches around your register shifts while making the monkey sounds, Mick; you don't want to sound unprofessional.)

    Look at these maybe in this order, or to get your attention the video first.

    https://r.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev_tuning_hist.html

    https://r.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/fid_911_jbt_tune.html

    So when middle C is 256 hz, the A can be a different frequency depending what the temperament, intonation system is -- equal temperament, just intonation, Pythagorean etc. With equal temperament, when C's 256, the A's about 430.5 if I remember right.



    First she sings at A440 (I think, or some high pitch around there). C256 singing starts at 7:08. The way she breathes in at 9:04 is so good. And 9:49 and 11:19. The way her face and eyes open up at 11:22 onward is beautiful. She's like a cute baby being overwhelmed with herself, with beauty. Such a cutie. From 11:19 on, God, it's so beautiful. I'm in awe of her.

    More about reference pitch and opera singers' voices:

    https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1988/eirv15n06-19880205/eirv15n06-19880205_025-renata_tebaldi.pdf

    https://r.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev_chart.html

    https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/...0812_024-revive_verdis_tuning_to_bring_ba.pdf

    More videos:
    https://r.schillerinstitute.org/music/2007/historic_videos.html#960529

    A bunch of other links:
    https://r.schillerinstitute.org/music/articles.html
    https://r.schillerinstitute.org/music/revolution.html

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    (and the playlist)

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLToMa32YCd1HCjY2-pLlYM4ulvU9uGkeO

     
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  4. Some awesome picking.
     
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  5. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Jack has talked about this somewhere here....

    I have read that autistic children will stop and listen when music is played at it's natural resonance.

    There was a woman on the forum [Sarah] whose husband is a musician and played pubs etc. He found when he played at natural resonance people would stop chatting and listen.

    Natural resonance is much more calming. I definitely know this to be true for me.
     
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  6. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Thanks everyone for all the great music!
     
  7. Dan2

    Dan2 Pedantic schlub



    Dee Dee's the best, man. He has one of the best stage presences I've ever seen.



    Dee Dee at 1:27 - 1:35 -- I love it. :D
     
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    5G Canary Gold

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    Dan2 Pedantic schlub

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