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How was your CT today?

Discussion in 'Cold Thermogenesis' started by differentstory, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. drezy

    drezy Gold

    1.) From https://www.jackkruse.com/cold-thermogenesis-easy-start-guide/ : It's part of a slow cold adaption. Some people are in conditions that make them so un-adapted to cold that they get cold urticaria.

    2.) I'll leave this to the pros since I regularly eat fatty meals and stopped thinking about it.

    3.) When you get out of a CT bath you will have to urinate enough that race horses within earshot will start look for the gates. Also I suspect it's part of prepping your vagus nerve (like splashing the face with cold water). I couldn't come up with any good horse imagery on that one. Sorry.

    4.) cautionary answer:
    With all due respect beware the following statement "only need spot treatment around your abdomen". While that may be true, don't limit yourself before trying this out. The fat cells in your abdomen weren't sitting around in an otherwise optimized body and then decided they and they alone were just going to go wild without receiving any signaling.
    I very much recommend building up to full CT to see if your N=1 receives any serendipitous (at least relative to your current perspective) benefits. I sure did. Like you I went in targeting just weight loss. I came out with perfect sleep, higher libido, knees that don't pop, better cognition, and increased sense of drive to name a few. All of that is secondary to the best benefit for me so far. My wife, long time insomnia suffer, now sleeps great when she keeps up with CT. Hell, it even gives me a marital shield. When she complains about sleep and is crabby I just drop the "When was your last CT?" bomb and it puts and end to it(at least me having to experience much) . That really was a game changer in my household. I can't tell you if just an abdomen pack would have had the same effects but will share my crude mental model.

    Take a smartphone and put it into a 120 degree oven for 20 minutes. It won't be so "smart" anymore. Could a small icepack applied to just the right spot while it's in the oven make it work better? Yes. But whoever owned the smartphone would insist that I first take it out of the environment that is effecting it and then put it in a fridge or cool spot so it would regain it's functioning sooner. That, in a nutshell, is a significant part of the advice given here.

    I think that if it weren't for the discomfort (due to non-cold adaption) or hassle of possibly having to buy ice if you live in a warm climate CT would be a very easy sell. The adaption came over time for us (Mom, dad, and son). The hassle of getting ice became a little bit of an obstruction that I've since worked around.
     
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  2. Glad winter has arrived in Sydney Australia, I have been doing CT 6am each morning at around 9c and 8pm each night at average 11c ,,observations so far sleep has become deeper energy levels have increased libido threw the roof
    skin has become more "youthful" friends have commented on this fairly often. But most of all I have noticed interactions with other people and individuals I normally wouldn't talk to have been very positive in nature (Magnetic Attraction :)) and problem solving skills have increased from a new awareness .
    Each CT presents itself with different challenges those are which are more related to mental state and overcoming the lead up to throwing oneself into a very cold situation ,but once Monkey Brain is diffused the overwhelming feeling of
    accomplishment is very satisfying. I have used my CT experience so far as a metaphor for other areas of my life. Thanks Dr kruse
     
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  3. ScottishEmma

    ScottishEmma Silver

    This morning my husband and I tried to get into a cold bath (not at the same time). I won't lie, it was fucking killer. I think we'll go back to face dunking to build up!
     
  4. Hi ScottishEmma yes go with your intuition and go with the face dunks make sure you increase your diet with saturated fat I use mainly butter and Ghee in my diet I have reduced Carbs due to it being winter here in Australia
    and increase your seafood for DHA if you haven't already done so to help with brown fat activation

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-11-omega-fatty-acids-brown-adipose.html
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9689148

    I guess the other area of success with CT is actually forming a HABIT a routine of doing it, with being part of your day.

    If I haven't had breakfast and do early morning CT,I will incorporate WIM HOF method of breathing to generate inner heat and this has been effective for me.
    I also wear a beanie and diving gloves and ankle boots as my feet were really feeling the cold.:D:D
     
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  5. Coldsnow

    Coldsnow New Member

    just got a new Kenmore ice chest and filling it with ozonated water - wow
     
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  6. Sun Disciple

    Sun Disciple AKA Paul...That Call Drop'n Canadian

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    Here we go!
     
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  7. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

    I jacked up my commitment to CT lately and was thinking during my last session; could it be that warm/hot showers in the morning are a huge circadian mismatch?
    Where outside of the tropics is there warm water available in nature in the morning? Definitely not at my latitude, not even at the height of summer.
     
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  8. Anton Chigur

    Anton Chigur New Member

    I started CT yesterday after 5 month break and seems that body is still adapted as 40mins in 10 degrees went good with minimum shivering. The funny thing is that when you start doing CT and you are sitting at the office under artificial lights all day, the mind and body are craving ice bath
     
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  9. JDW

    JDW New Member

  10. Valerie

    Valerie Gold

    I started CTing again after being off for 1 year with little difficulty.
     
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  11. FNJORD

    FNJORD New Member

    I started CT since it is getting cold enough to cool the water around here! I haven't set up the tub yet but just go to the lake and hang out in it, today either the lake was warmer or I progressed because I swam around for about 30 minutes alternating between standing in rib height water and swimming slowly. Don't know what the temperature is yet but one difference from last year is that I don't have the excruciating foot pain in cold water any more. Other people get it (any one I can drag kicking and screaming to come with me) but I don't, so that is cool.
     
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  12. Antonis

    Antonis Free diving

    I personally do cold showers and swimming in the sea. I don't have any tub so I use only the nature to do it. Water is not too cold. It is about 18-19 °C. I feel bit cold when I shower and then I use to it. But to be honest am cold aswel when am with my shorts and t shirts but I resist. Environmental temperature is around 18°C but we have humidity which makes you feel the cold. It is the first time I do it for the winter. I also wear less clothes at the moment. I find it a bit hard but I keep pushing my brain to forget that is cold. December and January will be colder. In the night is colder and I find it hard to not cover myself when I sleep. What should I do. Do you have any recommendations?
     
  13. I took a circuitous route to CT. I did the face dunking for a week or so. Added walking my dogs around sunrise in shorts, moccasins, gloves/hat as necessary. Morning temps were/are in the lower 20s to lower teens (F). Then added 15 minutes of tai chi in shorts with moccasins and gloves. All together about 45 minutes around sunrise. Then added partial cold shower, then full cold shower and today did cold tub for the first time. I was in the tub for 10mins, submerged up to the middle of my belly. Last few minutes put my torso under too. I haven't measured the exact water temp, but guessing it's between 55 and 60.

    It was harder to be outside in bare feet (light snow on the ground now) w/o gloves than to be in the tub. I drank a cold smoothie (plant-based, will be the last one f0r awhile as I am starting the leptin reset) afterwards. Still shivering a bit. Some numbness in my fingertips.
     
  14. Mystic Rose60

    Mystic Rose60 Let the sun shine on you :))

    Spent a lot of time outdoors in the snow today with hubby and the grandchildren, bulding a snowman family and pet dog and an igloo fort and had a nice fire going the entire time too. We made a day of it as a family. There's nothing like spending the day outdoors with the one's you love. :love::love::love:
     
  15. Temp 20f - wind ~5mph. Walked the dogs before sunrise, long sleeve t-shirt, light gloves, moccasins. Then shoveled snow - 1 inch of powder - in shorts only. Then cold shower. Breakfast - 2 slices of seed bread with homemade sprouted almond butter, beef jerky, wakame/sauerkraut salad, gotu kola/ginkgo/milky oats tea (this is a brain/nervous system combo).
     
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  16. Mystic Rose60

    Mystic Rose60 Let the sun shine on you :))

    Nice CT, but deuterium bomb breakfast Michael! This is like adding gasoline to a blazing fire and defeats the purpose of your CT, which is depleting the deuterium in your body. Also, make sure your eye surface is covered well if you are out before sunrise in our blue light world.

    Have you seen Jack's recipe for the deuterium depleting soup yet? Also, pastured deviled eggs with seafood in them is another great option. pastured, fatty cut steak, brisket, bacon, eggs, fatty, wild caught fish, fishhead and raw egg smoothies, seafood, bone broth, mushrooms, pastured butter, all good choices.
     
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  17. Thank you Mystic Rose! I've not seen the soup recipe yet, could you point me at it? I was pretty sure yesterday's breakfast was not the best, and my energy levels during the day confirmed it. Today was 6 eggs, biodynamic pork, broccoli, seaweed/sauerkraut salad, 2 slices seed bread, melissa/elderberry tea. I don't have the digestive capacity yet for raw eggs - tried them a few days ago. Fish heads, hmmm.

    I backed down a little bit on the CT today. I've been getting headaches, which feel like the headaches I used to get when I worked out too much. I think I'm overdoing the amount of CT for where I'm at right now in developing cold adaptation. I wore a sweater to walk the dogs, then did tai chi for ~20 mins in shorts, moccasins, gloves. No shower or tub.

    Mystic Rose - you're in Michigan? Can you walk in snow barefoot? I can handle it for a few minutes, then the pain gets to be too much. I was reading a Wim Hof student talking about being able to handle standing in snow within a few days.
     
  18. drezy

    drezy Gold

    Mystic is awesome to have around here. I believe there are several people here that eat fish heads or make smoothies out of them, but I have to admit to a nagging minor suspicion that it's a prank. Like when you report back that you ate it everyone will be all "Dudes look! He believed us and actually did it!" I'm probably wrong about that though...

    On that note I always wonder if the temptation is intense for Jack to tell everyone to stand on one leg, rub their tummy, and pat their head and then chuckle and say "Guys I'm just f*cking with you." Even just once. Just sayin...I'll be on the lookout next April.

    I remember a little of this in the beginning and/or if I didn't hydrate well enough prior to CT. In our house we coined the term newborn poo because if you really didn't hydrate well your rear and the working end of a grease gun become indistinguishable. A little graphic there but it's a place you don't want to be.

    I think this might be your own inflammation/deuterium story. If I get off the path for a week or so my first CT sessions lead to more cold discomfort in my hands and feet.

    Good luck as you try all this out. Maybe chuck that seed bread out to the birds. You taught me a new one "biodynamic pork". That's a cool term. Makes me wonder if the pigs know. Somewhere the could be two boars saying something like "Yeah so I spent the night with that sow in the other field. You know, the extra furry one with the tear in her ear. She's nice but, I don't know... We're just friends with benefits is all. I guess she's just not biodynamic enough to really make this a thing."

    It looks like you are a member so the soup recipe is listed in your dashboard:
    https://members.jackkruse.com/optimal-klub-member-dashboard/
     
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  19. Hah! Hilarious, thank you for sharing your viewpoint @drezy

    Striking imagery....;-) Bowels have been somewhat normal, slight tendency to constipation, between 2 and 3 on the bristol.
    Might be new idea here - I use filtered tap water (I'm reading the RO viewpoints, but from past experience it's not quite as dead as distilled, but) that I pour into a Violettglas bottle - http://www.miron-glas.com/ - and place in the sun for several hours. Violettglas blocks all but IR UV and violet. I then pour the water through a structurer and drink through out the day. I've been experimenting with water for a long time and this is the best water I've found yet.

    Gotcha. The pain has not decreased at all yet, so might have a ways to go here.

    Biodynamic - if there are any farms in your area, check them out. If done properly, the quality is impressive. Great joke too! Thank you for the soup link!
     
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  20. drezy

    drezy Gold

    @Michael Leger
    I might sometimes be a little rough around the edges, but I'm glad you're here. I hope to hear more of your story as it progresses. I will do my research on biodynamic. Thanks for the tip. Heck, I've got 2 Lbs pork headed to my grinder this evening.

    I'm making food for my son (only child and I love this guy so much it hurts) and my post-stroke mother. Half of it goes to a vindaloo and the other half to GOŁĄBKI.

    Thanks for the violettglas link. I'll read up on that. I've been shocked here to learn how many (thermodynamic)tricks that life plays to be life. So much to learn and so little time...
     
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