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hemochromatosis ?

Discussion in 'Heal Your Hormones' started by JasonR, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. JasonR

    JasonR New Member

    question if anyone has insight on this one. my dad has is my grandfather had it, im tested negative so far. can it be healed or dodged, my dad has to get a pick line from time to time to literally bleed him out to drop his iron levels.
  2. JasonR

    JasonR New Member

    my family thinks im a crack pot when I talk grounding health through diet, my mom was an RN so she's pretty much stuck in the mind set pills are the cure, and so is my father he also has atrial fib and sleep apnea, I tried to get him to read jacks book, so who knows if he picked it up yet. they have been zapping his heart into rhythm for a few yrs now. last go around they put more scar tissue in his heart to give a pathway for signals, aka $$$$$$$
  3. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Go read my Evolutionary Friend or Foe blog.

    Pretty good read on that disease there.
  4. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    atrial fib and sleep apnea
    atrial fib ----- lumbrokinase

    sleep apnea

    bad circadian rhythm
    excess weight

    It is "easy" to loose weight (the fat)

    convert it to water
    encourage body to do it drinking minimal amounts of water
    do not drink habitually
    wait for thirst
    when thirsty wait 20 min
    drink little bit
  5. JasonR

    JasonR New Member

    That was a really interesting read. I was not expecting that angle. The world needs to learn how to look at different angles its a wonderful thing. a picture is worth a thousand words so to speak.
  6. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    When you drink only minimal amount of water
    you are encouraging body to make its own water.
    It is very easy for body to make (totally new) (de novo) water. High flexibility.
    Water is made from oxygen we breed and hydrogen contained in (body fat) or fat we eat.
    At total rest body is making 1-1.5 Liters/day(24 hrs) of new water (plus) energy that comes from that nuclear reaction).
    But in a pinch (say during marathon) body can make 10 Liters/hr
    In the process of (nuclear reaction) of joining H (hydrogen) and O (oxygen)
    when water is created
    also excess energy is created.
    That excess energy
    is comparable
    to additional sunlight energy person gets when he/she moves from
    higher latitudes
    That excess energy is used by body to repair itself.

    When you are drinking lots of water
    specially really a lot (gallons), many liters a day
    you are preventing creation of that de novo water
    and are depriving your body from energy that whould have come from reaction of water creation.
    Additionally you are getting obese.
    can by-pass that (mistake) and travel to tropics, there you get heather (while staying obese)
    you can travel to tropics,
    drink less water
    if obese, loose fat
    if skinny, eat fat
    and double down on healing energy effect.

    There is a certain point when you can get too much energy.
    So easy does it.

  7. JanSz

    JanSz Gold


    new evolutionary adaptation
    evolutionary modification to survive existing conditions of life around about 1100 AD
    price you pay today for being allowed to be born
    watch out for adaptations to AIDS happening now
    The normal range for hemoglobin is:
    For men, 13.5 to 17.5 grams per deciliter.
    For women, 12.0 to 15.5 grams per deciliter.

    With time one will figure out how often he/she needs phlebotomy.
    At first Hgb is checked, after couple minutes you know the result.
    At this time (YOU) make a decision if you want to draw blood or able to wait.

    Get script from doctor (once a year)
    Script for therapeutic phlebotomy

    John Doe (man) DOB-7/21/1973
    elevated Hgb levels
    check once a month,
    perform therapeutic phlebotomy
    if Hgb>=15.8
    repeat every 3 months
    289.0 Secondary Polycythemia
    ICD-9-CM 289.0 converts directly to:
    2017 ICD-10-CM D75.1 Secondary polycythemia

  8. JasonR

    JasonR New Member

    Interesting thanks
  9. Christina Gagnon

    Christina Gagnon New Member

    It's genetic so no "cure" - you need to receive the gene from both parents in order to express the disease but you are a carrier so all children you have need to be tested also - and unfortunately you can't eat any raw seafood because is often contaminated with the bacterium Vibrio Vulnificas that thrives on iron so can lead to limb amputation and death.
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2019
  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Raw seafood
    say oysters.

    @Jack Kruse
    is it ok for person with Hemochomatosis to eat raw oysters or any other seafood?

    Christina Gagnon likes this.
  11. Christina Gagnon

    Christina Gagnon New Member

    Hi JanSz! Oysters carry the biggest risk but I've read that all raw shellfish shoul be avoided.

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