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Help with Leptin Rx

Discussion in 'The Leptin Rx' started by Tfreeman, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    Just wanted to post this here Incase anyone has any advice? @Jack Kruse

    So, I was originally on a paleo diet that I thought fit my health picture. It was higher in paleo carbs, definitely over 150g a day, but I would consistently feel energy dips that would make me feel like I’d need more. These weren’t dips like needing to sleep, but moreso low blood pressure type symptoms from my pots where I would feel weak, anxious, and low. Since Sunday, I started the true leptin RX to the tee. 50+ grams of protein with breakfast, light in my eyes in the morning (though very little), no eating until lunch, protein and veggies and fat for lunch, same with dinner. No eating after 7:30pm, red glasses at sundown.

    Positives:
    I lost 3 pounds in 2 days and I’m hoping that really continues. 219.0 on Sunday morning to 216.0 this morning.
    My digestion feels AWESOME - no reflux, gut is actually hungry, craving healthy foods (though I’m still having bad carb cravings).
    I’m already sweating?? I don’t know if that’s from 3 days of reset but I woke up and had to wipe my lip this morning for the first time in years. I know it’s not good to sweat when you sleep as you want a cold environment but that is still exciting to break a sweat.
    My mood is fairly general once I got over the first day of low carb moodiness.

    Negatives:
    I’m still feeling pretty weak at certain times of day. Definitely a symptom of low blood sugar - and it’s weak with some anxiety that I do not experience withbcarbs in my diet. I hope this goes away after a while.
    I’m having some cramps in my legs - typical for paleo/low carb transition? Should I be taking some tri salts or another mineral mix?
    My breathing symptoms (which have been bad for the last 4-5 years) always get worse when I’m weak/bp feels low which is definitely happening a lot since I started Sunday.
    Anxiety is a tiny bit worse because of all these symptoms - though I am calmer in general.

    biggest issue: my histamine levels are much higher. I’m trying not to take Allegra, but it’s really noticeable. I stopped having histamine episodes a month ago and now I feel like they’re going to start coming back without Allegra. Luckily I am going to Florida in 2 weeks and will get some sun for 10 days. Then when I return spring should be here.
     
  2. Just wanted to post this here Incase anyone has any advice?

    I genuinely don't know why more newbies don't do this diet. I think it's absolutely critical to reset Circadian Rhythm of Gut/ Brain/ Leptin Axis...... I am also doing this Leptin Rx diet currently and I'm in my 4th year on the forum, and it is my 2nd time doing the diet. Congrats for starting from the start, it will benefit you massively in my opinion. If you have chance, reading the early blogs 2012/2013 alongside this 2012 protocol, would help you build a good foundation of learning for later.

    So, I was originally on a paleo diet that I thought fit my health picture. It was higher in paleo carbs, definitely over 150g a day, but I would consistently feel energy dips that would make me feel like I’d need more. These weren’t dips like needing to sleep, but moreso low blood pressure type symptoms from my pots where I would feel weak, anxious, and low. Since Sunday, I started the true leptin RX to the tee. 50+ grams of protein with breakfast, light in my eyes in the morning (though very little), no eating until lunch, protein and veggies and fat for lunch, same with dinner. No eating after 7:30pm, red glasses at sundown.

    Will become obvious to you that those issues with Carbs is because of your environment. 150g a day for, I'm guessing, a poor light environment/ high latitude? That's a mismatch. But, if you live in high EMF/ Blue Light due to work/ home then you will struggle moreso with Carbs. EMF and Blue Light upregulates glucose metabolism without you even eating, and this breaks your ability to process carbs.

    Positives:
    I lost 3 pounds in 2 days and I’m hoping that really continues. 219.0 on Sunday morning to 216.0 this morning.
    My digestion feels AWESOME - no reflux, gut is actually hungry, craving healthy foods (though I’m still having bad carb cravings).
    I’m already sweating?? I don’t know if that’s from 3 days of reset but I woke up and had to wipe my lip this morning for the first time in years. I know it’s not good to sweat when you sleep as you want a cold environment but that is still exciting to break a sweat.
    My mood is fairly general once I got over the first day of low carb moodiness.

    3 days can lead to great results on this diet. Good news on reflux and hunger for your Gut Clocks. Sweating is a major sign you are doing things right, in my opinion. Give the cravings time.

    Negatives:
    I’m still feeling pretty weak at certain times of day. Definitely a symptom of low blood sugar - and it’s weak with some anxiety that I do not experience withbcarbs in my diet. I hope this goes away after a while.
    I’m having some cramps in my legs - typical for paleo/low carb transition? Should I be taking some tri salts or another mineral mix?
    My breathing symptoms (which have been bad for the last 4-5 years) always get worse when I’m weak/bp feels low which is definitely happening a lot since I started Sunday.
    Anxiety is a tiny bit worse because of all these symptoms - though I am calmer in general.

    Symptoms will take time, be patient. Also, focus on your environment more.... what EMF/ Blue Light are you around?
    For Salts... I use 1 to 1.5 teaspoon of ground Sea Salt per meal, so 2-3 teaspoons per day. That is concurrent with recommendations for low carb diets too regarding Salt intake (Jeff Volek/ Stephen Phinney). I would also advise drinking more H2O, search the forum for Water recommendations, that is a whole other topic. That may help your anxiety, because a lot of that comes from dehydration (again, environmental EMF/ Light), which I've learned very recently.

    Seafood and cold showers are very good for when I had anxiety in a high latitude. But, please try and sort out your environment if you aren't already.


    biggest issue: my histamine levels are much higher. I’m trying not to take Allegra, but it’s really noticeable. I stopped having histamine episodes a month ago and now I feel like they’re going to start coming back without Allegra. Luckily I am going to Florida in 2 weeks and will get some sun for 10 days. Then when I return spring should be here.

    Sun and Cooling surfaces for Histamine....... Also, please look at your environment. You may have multiple triggers for these reactions.

    Let me know if you have more Qs, and good luck. My Journal, from around pg 15-30 is all about a Leptin Rx I did, and then recently too I talk about it on pg 55-57.
     
  3. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    I genuinely don't know why more newbies don't do this diet. I think it's absolutely critical to reset Circadian Rhythm of Gut/ Brain/ Leptin Axis...... I am also doing this Leptin Rx diet currently and I'm in my 4th year on the forum, and it is my 2nd time doing the diet. Congrats for starting from the start, it will benefit you massively in my opinion. If you have chance, reading the early blogs 2012/2013 alongside this 2012 protocol, would help you build a good foundation of learning for later.

    Thanks for the helpful reply, @Sean Waters. It took me a few months to start but I'm glad I did. I am actually reading Jack's blogs from the beginning - page 22. I tried to read them back when I found the website in November but I feel like I retained none of the information; now I am trying again from the first page - keeping track of the helpful hints and information in a document rather than largely summarizing each blog post. I know they will get more complicated but luckily/unluckily (school EMF's) I am a teacher/learning specialist and can pull important information well. :)

    Will become obvious to you that those issues with Carbs is because of your environment. 150g a day for, I'm guessing, a poor light environment/ high latitude? That's a mismatch. But, if you live in high EMF/ Blue Light due to work/ home then you will struggle more with Carbs. EMF and Blue Light upregulates glucose metabolism without you even eating, and this breaks your ability to process carbs.

    I was following 150g+ carbs per day prior to the leptin reset. Since I've started the reset I'm eating between 50-60g per day-- I hope to lower this even more as time goes on. My blue light/nnEMF environment is terrible. I work in a private school in NYC -- the only worse option would be to work for the DOE, lol. I look forward to spending the 3 months of summer when the school year is over at my parents house on Long Island near the beach. There I'm 10 minutes away from the Sound and 30 mins from the Atlantic on the south shore. I know it's not the Yucatan, but it's a start. For now, I have Ra Optics day walkers that I wear in my classroom. I wear UVEX and another red pair at night. I bought a Ruby Lux and Sauna Space bulbs to keep on when i get home from 4:30-bed, and I have a UVA/UVB reptile bulb I can use, too. I walk to the east river each morning and watch the sunrise. I take a walk at noon each day to get my eyes in the light. I have gotten the school to have all students turn off their cell phones when they enter building. I am saving up some money to get my apartment grounded by this company with great reviews --> https://www.elexana.com/

    3 days can lead to great results on this diet. Good news on reflux and hunger for your Gut Clocks. Sweating is a major sign you are doing things right, in my opinion. Give the cravings time.

    Cravings are already getting better, apart from my afternoon 3/4PM slump. I'm thinking maybe I should do an ASI test but then again I'm doing a diet to correct adrenal/circadian rhythm so maybe I skip the ASI test and just wait on the diet.

    Symptoms will take time, be patient. Also, focus on your environment more.... what EMF/ Blue Light are you around?
    For Salts... I use 1 to 1.5 teaspoon of ground Sea Salt per meal, so 2-3 teaspoons per day. That is concurrent with recommendations for low carb diets too regarding Salt intake (Jeff Volek/ Stephen Phinney). I would also advise drinking more H2O, search the forum for Water recommendations, that is a whole other topic. That may help your anxiety, because a lot of that comes from dehydration (again, environmental EMF/ Light), which I've learned very recently.

    I already have POTS and autonomic dysfunction so salt is something I constantly need. I have a Mountain Valley Spring Water dispenser in my apartment that I drink from everyday out of a swell or other tins or glass. Thanks for the reminder - I forgot the low carb/paleo flu is a matter of dehydration and iodine deficiency. I am using Hainz sea salt with added Iodine. This blog helped me with that -- https://jackkruse.com/emf-rx-the-top-ten-emf-faqs/

    Seafood and cold showers are very good for when I had anxiety in a high latitude. But, please try and sort out your environment if you aren't already.

    Seafood I'm trying my best with - fish I can handle (even though the wild frozen sockeye salmon from whole foods is the toughest fish I have ever tasted lol) but certain shellfish really fills my histamine/inflammation bucket. I know I will come around to this with time as I continue to treat my body from a bad case of mold toxicity and consistently active Epstein Barr Virus. I avoided the sun from photosensitivity for the last few summers before I found Jack's website and I hope to build my solar callus and kill these infections with the sun this summer.

    Sun and Cooling surfaces for Histamine....... Also, please look at your environment. You may have multiple triggers for these reactions.

    Definitely have the triggers --> now I need to spend some time finding somewhere to move. For now I will use Florida where my grandparents live and summer where my parents live on Long Island to heal until I can move myself.

    Let me know if you have more Qs, and good luck. My Journal, from around pg 15-30 is all about a Leptin Rx I did, and then recently too I talk about it on pg 55-57.

    I read your journal daily! Thanks a billion for the tips.
     
  4. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Doing the Leptin RX as written is critical to your optimal health journey.
    There are no shortcuts. Jack is very specific about the details.
     
  5. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    @caroline is there anything I’ve written that steers away from the details of the protocol? I want to follow it exactly. Let me know your thoughts.
     
  6. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Jack repeatedly tells all of us that we will never get well in the environment that we got sick in.

    you live in NYC ....so if your redox is poor you are fighting an up hill battle no matter what you do.

    going to Long Island for summer sounds wonderful - but is it really? There would be major shipping channels etc etc etc and they all use very high tech gear (radar etc)

    the whole eastern seaboard is a tough place to be ....

    as far as the Leptin reset ....you need to follow it exactly as written

    BAB first thing upon rising with high fat and high quality protein.

    you seem to worry about carbs a lot?

    leave 4 hours between meals and bedtime.

    if you are eating enuf protein and fat you shouldn’t get an afternoon slump. Are you having enough fat? You should be able to go down to two meals a day really easily. Don’t worry if you can’t just yet tho.

    are you doing C/T?

    Jack’s protocols are actually relatively simple (and don’t really cost anything) but you do have to be diligent with the details.

    maybe just put your mind in neutral for the time being and do what you need to do?

    All Jack writes is pretty remarkable and we do need to get it ....at least some of it.

    when I first came across Jack on MDA it just all made so much sense to me. I had spent a lifetime trying every new thing and absolutely getting nowhere.

    if you love the science and get it ....then, by all means, go for girl!

    I really struggle with the science but I do get it.

    I completely under stand that this is all about the three legged stool and it has changed my life.....but I did what I needed to do.

    I turned off the power at night. I turned off my hot water tank. I sat in an ice cold tub with ice on top of me. I spent lots of time at the beach .....admittedly ogling the surfers! LOL

    I forced down a BAB .....and once I shifted to more fat it got easier. I certainly didn’t worry about carbs. I probably ate a lettuce leaf and carrot once in awhile.

    and, miracle of miracles, my body responded just like Jack said it would.

    Jack advised me to take progesterone (my n=1). My thyroid improved, my brain fog disappeared, I stopped falling down a lot, I stopped being hungry all the time, all the cravings went away and, best of all, I learned to trust my own instincts.

    with all the outdoor time/sun that I get I no longer take pg or anything else for that matter except for some mag Threonate

    My joy returned, as well as my libido! It had totally been MIA for many years. That was almost the saddest thing of all - but I am making up for it now!

    long story short ....this works if you work at it.

    may I suggest .....travel to Mexico over your summer vacation and maybe look up Shah?

    you are a teacher? Think outside the box.

    actually ~ there is no box!

    Do what you love in a place that you love and it will make you well and happy and thrive. Also You need good people around you.

    you need fun and friends that have your back.

    and BTW ....never, ever settle!!

    sorry this was way too long!
     
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  7. I agree with Caroline that you don’t need to beat yourself up with the science; just follow the protocol to a tee, improve your habits, light hygiene and reduce stress everyday. If you heed the wake up call your health crisis has given you, it was a blessing.quit tv completely, take the lights out of your fridge, use tech as little as possible, no lights at night, don’t worry or stress about fears, make a plan to get past them and dream about your ideal life.what we think becomes our reality, dreams come true. go to bed early, wake up early. It gets better bit by bit. All these things will help wherever you end up. Some so called friends and family may roll their eyes or make jokes. Ignore them and move on. You will find out who is really in your corner.
    An exercise I that Has helped me is imagining how would an indigenous person live before technology came along. I think everyone would be up waiting for the sun light every day. No time indoor during the day. Tucked in at night. No worries about the future or retirement, just living in the moment. I don’t think we are at all happier in this modern life. Let go of the parts that are killing you. Recreate yourself. Be your best friend.
    Good luck on your journey!
     
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  8. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I love what you say Marko.

    recreate yourself ...continually - and be your own best friend!
    Trust your instincts always. The best doctor is the one in our head!
     
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  9. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold


    Hi Caroline, thank you for your reply.

    I think it is interesting what Jack says about the environment you get sick in, so in my attempts to make enough money to move that is something I will keep in mind. I do think Long Island will have some high tech gear, but at the same time, I've looked up where Jack has a beach house in Destin, FL on antenna search and there are a ton of cell towers and antenna's around him. I think there are gives and takes anywhere you go. Some of us have extreme sensitivity to emf and can't hold a cell phone next to their head without symptoms, and others are being effected at a slower rate and have more time to plan. My parents house is fairly removed, and I will spend some time in Florida and down the shore in Lavallette where my cell phone does not work on the beach.

    I was only focusing on carbs because in Epi-Paleo jack talks about it a bunch and he mentions an amount for people to focus on in his Leptin Rx if you are overweight, thats' all.

    CT is a push for me as I have a fainting disorder, so it will take time. I know Jack did his leptin rx for over 6 weeks before introducing CT. My BAB is great but I still don't feel perfect in the morning or throughout the day. My food intoelrances are pretty bad and I know that's from a lack of light so that is why i booked Florida and plan to spend the summer in the sun. I hope to not become too symptomatic in the summer sun due to my POTS but again, give and take. Rising and setting sun on my entire body is where I'll focus.

    Even environmental recommendations can be individual and everyone's n=1. I hope to figure mine out in time - I only started on Jack's website a few months ago.
     
  10. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold


    Hi Marko - I am following the protocol to a tee - hope it works! I am keeping the lights off at all times now. I wear my blue blockers day and night unless I am outside. Trying to use as little tech as possible is hard being a teacher but I am trying. Living an indigenous life as a 28 year old woman in Manhattan can be hard, so in time I hope I make enough money to think outside the box and move. I'm not sure being away from family and friends in the middle of Mexico is good for me. I am VERY close with my people, lol.

    I've seen your posts in the past about salicylate intolerance. Any conclusions? I think my reason for being so sensitive when I follow a paleo protocol is because of that. Trouble breathing, swelling behind my eyes and under my skin, low blood sugar, low blood pressure etc. Especially when I use spices when cooking. Any ideas why? I'd think the same as jack has stated - swelling = a lack of red and purple light in your life. For now I'll avoid them - but I'm sure it will get boring!
     
  11. Lack of red and purple sure but you live in fucking manhattan.............. THAT IS YOUR ISSUE.

    You probably live in the top 5 worst places on the entire planet.

    Be thankful your mitochondria are even responding to a Leptin Rx in any way shape or form.

    SERIOUSLY, consider teaching English in South America or something ASAP or else Nature is going to give you a horrible wake up call and the Leptin Rx will not be available for use as a tool by that point.......... every cell in your body is giving you signs that you cannot process Food products (store packets of Light and Water) because it cannot function due to incredible amounts of EMF.

    Regarding DESTIN, FL..... those antennas are only bad when people are in the town. From September til May there is fucking noone there. So how bad are those Antennas then?......... He has said many times he won't be there in the Summer, but even so, he doesn't have POTS and Immune issues, so that is his choice if he does. I lived in London as you know and fell apart, when I visited Destin in November I slept and felt very relaxed and zero EHS symptoms.... that should tell you a lot...

    Does NYC have a quiet season? NOPE. So it is NOT EQUIVALENT.

    Your thinking about that ^ says a lot, you are thinking linear about every problem. It's not. I know you've just started, but you will thank me later for being hard on you. This is where you will get hurt. And when you are on the edge of the precipice of Health (at some point in the future when 5G puts you over the edge of your comfortable redox state) you may look back at this time and kick yourself for not acting quicker.
     
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  12. YEP I have an idea........... your environment is fucking awful. NOTHING TO DO WITH SALICYLATE. Wild indigenous humans have no issues with those BTW.
     
  13. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    Alrighty. Your posts probably give people more anxiety than they experience living where they do.

    Living in South America in the middle of nowhere with no family or friends won’t work for me. Tons of people on this forum Live comfortably in the North away from densely populated cities.

    but thank you for the cursing and yelling. Doesn’t seem like the best way to get to people but I understand your frustration. Optimal health to me means you can have a calm conversation with others. Frustration and irritability does not seem like optimal health.
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2020
  14. I press people's buttons because it helps me quickly cut through how much time I should spend helping them. We've all given you a lot of information to help you, for free, with all of our valuable time and experience.

    However, I've quickly found out you don't want the truth, just the nice answers. Good luck in Manhattan.
     
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  15. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    Never said that. But I’ve looked through many people’s posts on those with intolerances and none of the responses looked like yours. Many have reached out to me on this forum privately to take what those who speak like you do with a grain of salt. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but the information I’m being given from you is the same - move to a new city and get in the sun. What’s the point of having a forum if the same 2 chants are being harped on when I can’t up and leave my house today?
     
  16. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    Not saying it’s wrong. Just saying there is other useful advice and helpful hints I’ve been given and have read in all of jacks blogs apart from that.
     
  17. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    “I press people's buttons because it helps me quickly cut through how much time I should spend helping them. We've all given you a lot of information to help you, for free, with all of our valuable time and experience.”

    If you don’t want to help me due to my response to your post then so be it.
     
  18. Tfreeman

    Tfreeman Gold

    FYI @Sean Waters the mind is a powerful thing. The more someone is told they can’t heal, the more they will tell themselves. The more they tell themselves they won’t heal, the more they won’t, no matter where they live.
     
  19. kim johnson

    kim johnson New Member

    Hi,
    I tried to find the recommendation for the amount of daily protein intake on this site and in Jack's book, but couldn't find it.
    In general, who recommends 50+ gms of protein in AM for mito folks? Also, does anyone recommend the total amount of protein/day
    for mito folks? I'm 150 #, 5'6", X2b. I know that the answer may be individualized, but I'm only looking for answers relating to
    generalities. I enjoyed reading your blurb. Thanks, Kim
     
  20. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    Have you guys read Brain Gut #6? It is pretty much all there.
     
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