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Discussion in 'The Kruse Longevity Center' started by Jack Kruse, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    After doing many in-depth workups this year at Kruse Longevity Center we referred 5 of our patients for CAC studies and so far we are batting 100% on our diagnostic acumen. You need to hire doctors who can pack your parachute. Your life depends upon it. The CAC is the best test for cardiac risk because it is highly sensitive and predictive for cardiac mortality. https://www.nextavenue.org/artery-screening-heart-disease/
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  2. Huck

    Huck Silver

    Try convincing a cardiologist of that. Every cardiologist I talked to, discouraged me from getting either a cac or a CIMT. I finally had a CIMT done without a doctor's referral.
  3. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    In Denville NJ CAC cost me $95
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  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    You don't need to convince them.......go get it yourself.

    What is wrong with people? The test can be done at an imaging center......no prescriber needed. Get off your duff and do some homework.
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  5. Huck

    Huck Silver

    Why assume things I didn't say?

    I did the research. I opted for a CIMT instead of a CAC because I had already had an MRI, a CT scan, and a chest x-ray to avoid the additional radiation from a CAC. Some consider the CIMT to be a better tool than CAC, as long as it is done in a consistent manner so it can be replicated. I had mine done by a national company that performs them at doctor's offices around the country. All the techs are trained to the same standard, so my next CIMT should show whether my plaque has increased, decreased, or stayed the same.

    I called every imaging center around here and none even knew what a CAC was, much less performed it. The closest one I found that would do it without a prescription was 3+ hours from me. I would say I did my homework.

    The problem is that all cardiologists I discussed it with discouraged me from getting one and didn't want to look at it even if I got it on your own. And this was at 2 large university hospitals, one highly ranked for cardiology in US. I asked 4 different cardiologists about getting a CAC or CIMT and every single one said it was not needed.

    There is a limit to how much a patient can push. I walked away from several cardiologists before settling on the one I trusted to perform my TAVR, but even he discouraged me from getting a CAC or CIMT. Of course when they performed the cardiac catheterization, they found 2 arteries that had very high levels of blockage.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2019
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  6. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    Where are u ? i hope all is good . get in touch when convenient, Hug.@Huck
  7. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    The carotid intima-media thickness test (CIMT) is a measure used to diagnose the extent of carotid atherosclerotic vascular disease. The test measures the thickness of the inner two layers of the carotid artery—the intima and media—and alerts physicians to any thickening when patients are still asymptomatic.

    Coronary artery calcium (CAC) scoring, also called a coronary calcium scan, is a test that measures the amount of calcium in the walls of the heart's arteries.

    When @Jack Kruse mentioned CAC
    I got it and was able to convince my daughter and her husband to have it done too.
    They both got all clear. That was one year ago.
    The good news it seems.

    We went through a nice Thanksgiving dinner. The next day eating breakfast my son in law is getting signs of heart problems (Friday morning).
    Eventually, we rush back from Maryland to New Jersey.
    Now he is near home in the hospital.
    They plan on doing more tests and keeping him in hospital till Tuesday.
    It is Saturday now.
    What is his problem, nobody says, but he has some problems.

    Having all clear CAC just a year ago, what 47yo man can expect?
    Weight lifting, strong, 200#, 5'10", gout.
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  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    My son-inlaw is still in the hospital.
    They were not able to find anything to hang their hat on, so they decided to do cardiac catheterization tomorrow.
    He made his year-old Calcium Score = zero test, available to them.

    Before they do a cardiac catheterization,
    I wonder if @Jack Kruse has anything to say, pretty please.
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  9. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Wait, you are saying that his CAC was perfect?
  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Yes. A year ago.
    His and my daughter's.
    I paid them to have it done, they did.
    I was also successful to have my daughter do the Spectracell and DUTCH complete.
    She had some deficiencies, so I prepared batches of 2 weeks worth of pills to counter those deficiencies.
    After 2 or 3 months, taking those pills was to heavy chore.
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2019

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