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Discussion in 'Educating Doctors' started by Jack Kruse, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    1. Fluoride Is A Carcinogen

    Fluoride was found to be an equivocal carcinogen by the National Cancer Institute Toxicological Program.[1]
    Further studies by the New Jersey Department of Health have now confirmed a 6.9 fold increase in bone cancer in young males.[2]
    Earlier studies had found a 5% increase in all types of cancers in fluoridated communities.[3]

    "In point of fact, fluoride causes more human cancer death, and causes it faster than any other chemical," stated Dr. Dean Burk PhD who spent over three decades with the national cancer institute.

    Researchers suspect a connection to cancer because half of ingested fluoride is deposited in bones, and fluoride stimulates growth in the end of bones, where osteosarcoma occurs.

    2. Most Developed Countries Do Not Fluoridate Their Water

    Most developed nations do not fluoridate their water. In western Europe, for example, only 3% of the population consumes fluoridated water. Only 11 countries in the world have more than 50% of their population drinking fluoridated water: Australia (80%), Brunei (95%); Chile (70%), Guyana (62%), Hong Kong (100%), the Irish Republic (73%), Israel (70%), Malaysia (75%), New Zealand (62%), Singapore (100%), and the United States (64%). In total, 377,655,000 million people worldwide drink artificially fluoridated water. This represents 5% of the world’s population.

    3. Fluoride Increases Hip Fractures

    Drinking fluoridated water will double the number of hip fractures for both older men and women.[4, 5]
    Extremely low levels of water fluoridation 0.1 ppm still produced statistically significant increased hip fractures. (Bordeaux Study JAMA 1994)

    4. Fluoridated Countries Do Not Have Less Tooth Decay Than Non-Fluoridated Countries

    According to the World Health Organization (WHO), there is no discernible difference in tooth decay between developed countries that fluoridate their water and those that do not. The decline in tooth decay the US has experienced over the last 60 years, which is often attributed to fluoridated water, has likewise occurred in all developed countries (most of which do not fluoridate their water). What the CDC always fails to mention is that tooth decay rates have “precipitously declined” in all western countries, irrespective of whether the country ever fluoridated its water. Indeed, most western countries do not fluoridate their water and yet their tooth decay rates have declined at the same rate as the U.S. and other fluoridated countries.

    No correlation was found between the level of fluoride in water and dental caries.[7, 8, 9, 10, 11] There also appears to be a genetically related increase in tooth decay for Hispanics, Indians, Native Americans and Asians. Decay is largely related to the educational and economic level of the parents. [12]

    “Fluoridation is no longer effective,” contends Hardy Limeback, head of the preventive dentistry program at the University of Toronto, who says adding the chemical to water is “more harmful than beneficial.”

    5. Fluoridated Water Affects IQ and Neurobehavioral Development in Children

    Although fluoride has been proven to cause neurotoxicity in animal models, very little published research has elaborated on acute fluoride poisoning and neurotoxicity in adults and children. A report in a peer-reviewed open access journal published by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences performed a systematic review and meta-analysis of published studies to investigate the effects of increased fluoride exposure and delayed neurobehavioral development.

    A study published in Neurologia showed "the prolonged ingestion of fluoride may cause significant damage to health and particularly to the nervous system." That was the conclusion by a review of studies by researchers Valdez-Jimenez, et al.

    Researchers Anna L. Choi, Guifan Sun, Ying Zhang and Philippe Grandjean researched the MEDLINE, EMBASE, Water Resources Abstracts, and TOXNET databases through 2011 for eligible studies.

    The standardized weighted mean difference in IQ score between exposed and reference populations showed that populations in high fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ scores than those who lived in low fluoride areas.

    6. Fluoride Increases Infertility

    Infertility in women was found to increase with water fluoridation. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) scientists reported a close correlation between decreasing total fertility rates in women between ages of 10 and 49, and increasing fluoride levels.
    They also reported that a review of all of the animal studies done to date shows that fluoride adversely affects fertility in most animal species.[6]

    7. Fluoridation is Not a “Natural” Process and Fluoride is NOT A NUTRIENT

    Fluoride is naturally occurring in some areas, leading to high levels in certain water supplies “naturally.” Fluoridation advocates often use this to support its safety, however naturally occurring substances are not automatically safe (think of arsenic, for instance).

    Further, the fluoride added to most water supplies is not the naturally occurring variety but rather fluorosilicic acid, which is captured in air pollution control devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry. As FAN reported:
    “This captured fluoride acid is the most contaminated chemical added to public water supplies, and may impose additional risks to those presented by natural fluorides. These risks include a possible cancer hazard from the acid’s elevated arsenic content, and a possible neurotoxic hazard from the acid’s ability--under some conditions--to increase the erosion of lead from old pipes.”

    The term “fluoride supplement” is a misnomer as it implies that the product is a dietary supplement, like calcium and other nutrients. Fluoride, however, is not a nutrient. A nutrient is something the body has a physiological demand for--they’re not optional; we need them.

    The term “fluoride supplement” is also a misnomer because most dietary supplements can be purchased over the counter (i.e., without a prescription). Fluoride supplements, however, cannot be purchased over the counter; they are only available by prescription from either a licensed dentist or doctor.
  2. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    8. Fluoride Increases Fluorosis

    Fluorosis is a defect of tooth enamel caused by too much fluoride intake during the first 8 years of life. Opaque white spots and brown ugly teeth are caused by fluoride. Fluorosis currently affects one out of five or more children in this nation although it is rarely seen in California.
    California is the least fluoridated state with less than 16% of the population drinking artificially fluoridated water.

    Common causes of fluorosis include: fluoridated drinking water (particularly during infancy), ingestion of fluoride toothpaste, use of fluoride tablets, and consumption of processed foods made with fluoridated water.

    9. Fluoride Calcifies The Pineal Gland

    A British researcher found that the cells in the pineal gland (a gland that contains calcified deposits that accumulate fluoride) were just as susceptible to fluoride-induced toxicity as the tooth-forming cells. Unlike the teeth, however, the pineal gland cannot be seen by the naked eye. As noted by the researcher, “The safety of the use of fluorides ultimately rests on the assumption that the developing enamel organ is most sensitive to the toxic effects of fluoride. The results from this study suggest that-the pinealocytes may be as susceptible to fluoride as the developing enamel organ.” The pineal controls your inner clock, provides good sleep, works with your adrenal glands to handle stress, keeps the thymus gland fed and cared for, and communicates 24/7 with the rest of the endocrine system about how things are going.

    10. Fluoride Is NOT APPROVED By The FDA

    As the FDA has long recognized, fluoride is not necessary to human health or development. When used to prevent disease, therefore, the FDA considers fluoride to be a drug.
    FDA has never approved a fluoride supplement as safe and effective.
    FDA has rejected two fluoride supplements (Enziflur & prenatal fluoride)
    FDA gave false information to Congress in 2000 by stating FDA “never rejected” a fluoride supplement.

    11. Fluoride Is Highly Toxic, Yet It is The Drug Added To Public Water

    Fluoride is added to drinking water to prevent a disease (tooth decay), and as such becomes a medicine by FDA definition. While proponents claim this is no different than adding vitamin D to milk, fluoride is not an essential nutrient. Many European nations have rejected fluoride for the very reason that delivering medication via the water supply would be inappropriate. Water fluoridation is a form of mass medication that denies you the right to informed consent.

    The International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology has classified Fluoride as an unapproved dental medicament due to its high toxicity.

    12. Most people are overexposed to fluoride due to the pesticide cryolite found in consumption of grape products, particularly white grapes, grown in the U.S

    Many juice drinks that are not labeled as “grape juice” use grape juice as a filler ingredient. The use of cryolite thus contaminates many juices with fluoride.

    Cryolite is also allowed to be added to the following products (although it is unclear how many producers actually do so, and what the resulting fluoride levels are):
    Apricot, Broccoli, Brussels Sprout, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Citrus fruit, Collards, Eggplant, Kale, Kiwifruit, Kohlrabi, Lettuce, Melon, Nectarine, Peach, Pepper, Plum, Pumpkin, Squash (summer & winter), Tomato, and a number of Berries (Blackberry, Blueberry (huckleberry) Boysenberry, Cranberry, Dewberry, Loganberry, Raspberry, Strawberry, Youngberry).

    The key way to avoid exposure to fluoride from cryolite is to avoid buying non-organic grape products, particularly beverages made out of white grapes.

    13. USDA Organic Has Allowed Fluoride To Contaminate The Organic Label

    Fluoride is a persistent and non-degradable poison that accumulates in soil, plants, wildlife, and humans. Many organic farmers may be unaware that this highly toxic substance has been allowed for use in the National Organic Standards (NOS) program, because its presence is hidden. However, it is allowed as Sodium Fluoride tucked away in the US EPA List 4 Inerts ("Inerts which have sufficient data to substantiate they can be used safely in pesticide products, according to EPA."), which are allowed for use in the NOS. It is also allowed in Bone Meal (which can contain 1000 ppm - or more- fluoride), also included in US EPA List 4 Inerts ("Inerts generally regarded as safe, i.e., corn cobs and cookie crumbs," according to EPA).

    14. Fluoride Is Linked To The Leading Cause of Death

    Depending on the country, cardiovascular disease is typically either the number one or two cause of death. A study published in Nuclear Medicine Communications Journal has concluded that increased uptake of fluoride in arteries may be associated with an increased cardiovascular risk.

    15. Most Teas At Grocery Retailers Contain Toxic Levels of Fluoride

    Drinking cheaper tea blends found at major grocery retailers can increase the level of people's fluoride intake to toxic levels and put them at increased risk of skeletal and dental illnesses, a University of Derby found. The study is published in journal Food Research International.

    Academic Sources:
    1. Maurer, et. al., Fluoride an equivocal carcinogen J. National Cancer Institute 82, 1118-26, 1990

    2. Cohn, Perry D. Ph.D. An Epidemiological Report on Drinking Water Fluoridation and Osteosarcoma in Young Males New Jersey Department of Health, Environmental Health Service, Trenton NJ November 8, 1992

    3 . Yiamouyiannis, J.A. and Dean Burk, "Fluoridation and Cancer: Age Dependence of Cancer Mortality Related to Artificial Fluoridation," Fluoride, Vol. 10 #3 (102-123) 1977

    4. Hip Fracture rates related to Fluoridated water Journal of the American Medical Association 264(4):500-502 1990

    5. J. C. Robins and J. L. Ambrus, "Studies on Osteoporosis IX. Effect of Fluoride on Steroid Induced Osteoporosis," Research Communications in Chemical Pathology and Pharmacology, Volume 37, No. 3, pp. 453-461 (1982)

    6. Freni SC, Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, 42:109-121, 1994

    7. Diesendorf M. Tooth Decay not related to fluoride intake from water Nature Vol. 322 10 July 1986

    8. Colquhoun J. Tooth Decay related to economics of family American Laboratory 17:98-109 1985

    9. Colquhoun J. Community Dentistry and Oral Epidemiology 13:37-41 1985

    10. Dr. John Yiamouyiannis statement both in his book (Fluoride the Aging Factor" pub Health Action Press 2nd ed. 1986 )and during debates has not been challenged by the ADA or others.

    11. Ziegelbecker D. Fluoride 14; 123-128 1981

    12. Steelink and Jones Fluoride in the Municipal Water of Tucson related to diet and ethnic origin International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology March 95

    13. Colquhoun J. Fluoride Vol. 23 #3 July 90

    14. Colquhoun J. Community Health Studies 11:85-90 1987
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  3. Jack Kruse

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    A leading cause of ADHD (attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder) and autism in children could be the hidden chemicals lurking in the foods we eat, the water we drink and the products we consume, says a new study recently published in The Lancet. Researchers from the Harvard School of Public Health (HSPH) and the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai (ISMMS) found that, among other things, the fluoride chemicals added to many public water systems in North America directly contribute to both mental and behavioral disorders in children.

    Building upon earlier research published in 2006 that dubbed fluoride as a "developmental neurotoxicant," the new review included a meta-analysis of 27 additional studies on fluoride, most of which were from China, that linked the chemical to lowered IQ in children. After thorough analysis, it was determined that fluoride obstructs proper brain development and can lead to autism spectrum disorders, dyslexia, ADHD and other health conditions, a "silent epidemic" that many mainstream health authorities continue to ignore.

    According to the two main researchers involved in the study, Philippe Grandjean from HSPH and Philip Landrigan from ISMMS, incidences of chemical-related neurodevelopmental disorders have doubled over the past seven years from six to 12. The reason for this is that an increasing number of mostly untested chemicals are being approved for use without the public being told where and in what quantities such chemicals are being used.
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  4. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    everyone needs to read this .........
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  5. Lahelada

    Lahelada New Member

    Reading it and had partially read about the Cryolite but did not know it was so abundant in vegetable cultivation.I am surprised Argentina did not make the list as we have a high fluoridation level. There goes my plan to substitute my fluoride water for Malbec ;)
  6. persistence

    persistence New Member

    Thankfully there is no fluoride in my local water supply or in the "spring" water that I have delivered to office. But what about toothpaste? Almost every toothpaste includes some fluoride ingredient. As long as we rinse well and spit out the paste, how much exposure are we getting from this?

    If you recommend getting rid of fluoridated toothpaste, are there any replacement brands you like? I like Arm & Hammer brands because of baking soda, which seems to clean very well. But almost all of theirs add fluoride.

    Are there other fluoride sources besides water and toothpaste?
  7. Inger

    Inger Silver


    I use the Lavera toothpaste above since years, I love it! No fluoride, no glycerine. It is not even expensive... and tastes great too!

    I would never, ever use any fluoride toothpaste anymore. I think the mouth can absorb quite a bit, or why are some medications to be put under the tongue for fast assimilation? Scary!

    I also have sometimes used only coconut oil, works well too!

    I think one reason I got the (probably..) ADHD/ADD is because of all the fluoride in the first part of my life - we had to literally EAT fluoride as kids. :(
    Everyone thought that was a great thing. So sad.
  8. persistence

    persistence New Member

    Hmm, I ordered two Neutral Basis Laveras, since that was the only thing on Amazon in stock. If my teeth turn purple you will be hearing from me. :)

    Speaking of the government shoving its great ideas down our throats: Let's not forget that the original Polio vaccines - from 1955 through about 1962 - were contaminated with the SV-40 cancer virus. They estimate that something like one in 200 people given that vaccine will develop cancer. Roughly 15 cancers were caused for every one Polio case that was prevented. Most vaccines have lots of unfiltered viruses attached to them, and courtesy to government mandate those get injected straight into the host.

    But let's all feel very safe that the FDA makes every new drug cost $200M. Now we get lots of safety studies that don't actually address many aspects of safety, while simultaneously making healthcare so expensive in the process that the country is going bankrupt.

    Don't get me started or I might tell you what I really think.
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  9. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Purple..? thats weird lol
    You need to check carefully the ingredients, I think there are several Lavera toothpaste's that are fluoridated too, some have glycerine, I also do not like glycerine, I have read it makes the teeth not breath so well
    The one above i always buy have none of those things.

    Yeah... got to be aware and careful about government ideas... o_O

    I got every single vaccine too - but I am born 76 so I hope they were not the bad modern sort of vaccines.. :confused: but after I become aware - no single vaccine will ever enter my body anymore - despite of what horror stories my Doc try to scare me with...hehehe

    Anyways, thanks God our body have such amazing healing capacities :) :) :)
  10. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Did I tell.. about my bro little son that was only breastfed but lives so close to two towers.. lots of radiation there + wifi's from neighbors.. they live in an apartment 2 floor. The mum is so nice and stays with the child all the time and he can have as much mumi as he wants... but still he have had some issues.. he also is pretty small.. and have had issues with his bowels and also got pretty thin. I told her not to vaccinate him, at least wait a bit not give all the vaccines right away, she told she will not, and in the beginning she also was able to say no - but in the end... she had no power to withstand the pressure from health care personnel and she gave in.. and let them give their son the vaccines.. and there are plenty!!! I feel so sorry about it... living close to cell phone towers - above the ground.. and giving all the vaccines... not a good thing at all. But I cannot do anything more than tell what I know. It is just sad to see how people lose their willpower when facing the health care professionals. :(

    You need to be darn strong to not give in these days. You need to have the heart of a lion for sure, a lion mother that fights for her child with teeth and claws! Grrrrr!!!!
    I have it. I have this crazy power in me and is not one bit scared to fight. But the sad thing is, I cannot give the power away... it just do not work that way. I SO WISH I COULD :( those are our personal decisions, only we can make, and fight for.
    I need to work on me somehow, IDK yet but there is something I must do better. How I can help better. I will figure it out, eventually. I actually already have a plan.
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  15. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    Persistence, fortunately, there are quite a few different companies that make fluoride-free toothpaste - a simple google search will show that.
    One of them http://www.amazon.com/Earthpaste-Pe...1395151254&sr=8-1&keywords=redmond+toothpaste.
    Hope, Lavera will work for you - it does have some helpful ingredients but it would not be my first choice because of sorbitol and xanthan gum.....
  16. persistence

    persistence New Member

    Hopefully this one passes inspection:


    Don't kid yourself. Most of us have become lab experiments for the first three generations of vaccines. They cannot filter for small viruses and when they harvest the material for a vaccine from an animal, there is all kinds of collateral coming over with it.

    I'm not anti-vaccine. I think people should be allowed to choose based on good information. If it is a disease that 99.9% would survive with a week of sickness, then it becomes harder for me to justify the risk of the vaccine itself. I resent government's making these decisions for people - and on the other side of the same issue denying patients access to therapies that the government wants to study more - instead of just informing. I would have no problems with the FDA putting mandatory and massive warning labels on wide ranges of foods and supplements and medicines. Information will set you free and increase public scrutiny of marginal-benefit substances. I really cannot stand that a bunch of incompetent bureaucrats get to control decisions that I am required to be injected, or alternately that I am not allowed to make a decision to take a medicine.

    80%+ of our immune system is in our gut. We were evolved to fight viruses that we constantly ingest. Maybe you pick up a few viruses when you get a cut and your immune system works on those. But with a vaccine they are concentrating the dose and injecting that right into you. Many of those viruses lie dormant and just wait opportunistically for a year when you are weak. I don't believe our bodies are destroying all of those viruses.
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  18. persistence

    persistence New Member

    I'm not swallowing the sorbitol or xanthum gum? Unless you have allergic issues with those why would you object to their presence? Earthpaste has xylitol, and same issue there.

    I understand why some people don't want to ingest some sugar alcohols. They don't metabolize in body completely and some stays in the gut and causes digestive issues. But a small amount in toothpaste isn't going to do that?
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  19. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    Xylitol has been used in many oral and other products because of its benefits. http://www.dimensionsofdentalhygiene.com/2013/12_December/Features/The_Benefits_of_Xylitol.aspx
    I can't say the same about the use of sorbitol. I avoid using products with xanthum gum because it is usually derived from either GMO corn, soy or wheat - I need to avoid them.
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