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Exodus from Seattle Area

Discussion in 'Meet and Greet' started by Jeffrey Sloat, Mar 25, 2019.


Does your city have these ratiation sticks too?

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  3. They all seem to

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  1. Jeffrey Sloat

    Jeffrey Sloat New Member

    Hello Dr. Kruse and All,

    I live on the Seattle Eastside and have been experiencing health issues in terms of fatigue, sleep disturbance and numbness in extremities which started becoming more apparent 2.5 years ago. When I learned about Jack Kruse and explored his position in terms of light-water-magnetism I couldn't agree more with the general insight: nature healing, EMF technology damaging.

    Shortly after my wedding last summer I began seeing the rapid spread of 5G towers throughout the Greater Seattle Met Area. Now what was a plan to leave the area in 5-10 years has become (for me) a much more pressing matter as I cannot maintain my dwindling health despite my age and honest efforts including visiting the beach and forest regularly (you cannot get well in the place you got sick in). Blood is not effectively reaching my extremity and my hands are most-always cold even inside even with OK core temperature. What I felt was an adequate quantity of radiation sticks is being added to at an alarming rate: more panels and more towers with some having 5 TIERS of radiators in an attempt to blast through the thick forests to provide faster internet? - I am repulsed, sick and highly concerned - the degree of spinal mis-allignment and depression I am experiencing is totally unacceptable, and despite rarely being sick I 'felt a cold coming on' for about 1/2 of the days this winter.

    Unfortunately, my wife does not share my concerns, and both our family and jobs are here. For these reasons she is not interested in re-locating, while I would live in Chile, India or wherever if it meant not succumbing to disease - my quality of life is everything! Anyway, I finally joined this forum as I am seriously considering a major relocation and basically starting a new life at age 27. I know my health should be better- I know how many hours I spend in front of fires or grounding naked in the forest but all signs point to leaving my Home so that my life doesn't end in tragedy.

    Do you have any suggestions for re-locating? I know low population density and a less developed country would help, and building a shielded house is in my future, but I prefer an outdoor lifestyle so I can't just build a bunker in Seattle. Is there a 1-3 year fix to where we can re-locate to rural Washington State with a goal/intent to move further? My wife is very concerned, I don't want to lose her but I will not lose my health to live out a crummy existence in Radiationville.

    Due to this marital conflict I have been staying with my Parents in Seattle proper for 12 days and every night I have highly disrupted sleep - I literally woke up, wide awake at 0-dark-30 last night, no nightmare, no bump in the night but my body was completely awake - magnetism.

    I don't want to dive before I know which end of the pool I'm at - would the Washington coast (with Olympic Mountain Range between me and Seattle) be a real change? Someone else mentioned Utah, is there any place in the USA where 5G is being resisted at therefor a potential relocation site?

    Thank you all,
  2. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    need for long daily sunlight exposure are not compatible

    looks like you will be moving alone to the place of your choice

    personal choices
    they will come with pain
    make it quick, so the rest of your current companion also have least discomfort
  3. Allin

    Allin New Member

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  4. DLO

    DLO StarFish

  5. Jeffrey Sloat

    Jeffrey Sloat New Member

    Dan 2,

    Thank you for your thoughts and the resources you provided. I was surprised to see such a lengthy response so quickly, (albeit a little ramble-y :)

    I appreciate both the time spent and that you stuck your neck out to communicate these points.

    Your message left me thinking and I have left you hanging, my apologies!

    Being a new member, my perspective on Jack and his starfish has mainly been gleaned from podcasts, interviews, speeches. I have the Epi-Paleo RX but to be honest a lot of the information was over my head and I didn't see clear recommendations provided, more so the proper testing to diagnose. I agree he is a bit forceful with his approach and unforgiving of people who have differing opinions, but the information (to me) appears well considered yet flexible/evolving with regard to new information. I have not found another individual who has credit as a doctor and is aware of so many environmental/personal factors which contribute to health/sickness. Not that they aren't out there, but Jack has an inherent value for that reason. For example, with regard to sunlight/light therapy: I have heard enough physicists talking about the importance of appropriate sun exposure and effects of chronic lack of vitamin D to know Jackie is on to something, and that he can take it further to the benefit of his followers makes him valuable.

    At some point that value needs to convert into money in our society, otherwise he will exhaust his own wealth spreading information that a lot of people are closed to or actively trying to suppress (ie telecom or supplement makers).

    I've heard him say several times (effectively/reworded) that he is selling lifestyle changes which don't offer financial incentives for him to better ourselves other than altruism, so as a doctor there is a lack of incentive to pursue this course of action despite the value of his perspective. Although I wish I could 'have access' to Jackie without paying damn $80 a month, I have spent far more on far less valuable tools, and being compensated for his time and effort in directly assisting someone is valid, I still charge my gardening clients for time when I am educating them in their garden, there is value in that act, and our society assigns value in terms of money (most generally). He sells his time, content and gadgets like the Quantlet, but his actual advice (to my perception) is basically: 'if you are sick: move, get grounded, drink and eat well, consider where you sleep, see the sunrise, never stop learning/growing/thinking'. Added to that is 'if you want to learn more, we can talk online more concrete about your personal situation or you can come to a retreat of mine, or if you fly a lot consider the quantlet to help mitigate biologic stress' all feel valid reasons to be monetarily compensated but at the same time optional. To your comment about his compound/refuge and his financial incentive: there is a huge value/incentive for a sick person to seek that service/living accommodation to address their ailments, and without $ such a place would not exist or persist, so there is a further incentive for Jackie to charge for a compound that represents the culmination of his intellectual pursuit and which will provide value in the form of quality of life. To me this feels like a simple exchange of goods and services which again: our current society lives by.

    Given the knowledge base Dr Kruse claims, and the ability for him to produce a plausible 'why' are enticing: it makes me want to pursue his advice directly to the point that I feel I would be better served to show up on his door step with cash, because every naturopath (3) I've seen have all either validated Jacks position or admitted a lack of knowledge regarding each area of concern. I can't seem to find someone who has a holistic approach with a profound understanding of root causes like Jack. The Naturopath yesterday recommended taking tumeric (I told her I would take the fresh plant) to address my low bloodflow to extremities. Now; is my body experiencing a lack of bloodflow due to a tumeric deficiency? They also recommended dedicating more hours to sleep since I told her my sleep has become more disrupted with 2 consecutive moves closer to Seattle proper. Is my body experiencing lack of sleep due to time committed to sleep or due to low quality sleep, and WHY? To the sleep question: Jackie points out magnetic influences, light exposure and hormones which he proclaims can be addressed by limiting blue light, allowing the sun to signal hormone production and either sleeping on the ground, grounded or on a Magnetico- preferably away from EMFs. At what point in the last sentence does Jackie profit, and at what point would the Naturopath have profited from tumeric pills?

    Jackie aside, as I type this message I am experiencing negative biologic feedback (cold hands, aching knuckles, tingling fingers, body shivers, pitting out my shirt despite a comfortable core body temperature) which occur with any type of activity I pursue on my computer or cell phone: How I feel about the current activity (writing you) is positive, but the cold and aching continues, so I feel disinclined to believe that the problem I have is mental, or just mental.

    In summary:
    I don't think Jack is out of line in seeking financial compensation in the ways he does. That his free advise would mean relocation and a change of lifestyle for many/most modern humans does not make me resent him. If I leave my wife, and move away from my family of course that would be painful, but I could never blame Jack Kruse for such an occurrence. His science-y, academic approach to conveying information elicits fear, but the reasons why we are experiencing widespread neolithic disease is concerning, and should be feared. I don't think he is fear mongering because the fear is our reaction to understanding the dangers inherent in something like cell phone radiation: it isn't baseless and it isn't needless. That his talks trigger cortisol release is partly in his delivery and party in the shattering/juxtaposition of his scientific knowledge against conventional belief so I don't think fearmongering fits, but I totally agree (if this is what you are saying) that he instills fear by communicating his hard-line beliefs apart from the validity of the information.

    I am sorry, I don't think we are any further after all I have typed but I have enjoyed the correspondence. Hope to hear from you again, Dan2


    Edit: to quickly address Elon, whatever beliefs he has/shares he is deeply involved/intertwined/incentivized to continue and advance the tech industry and telecom as it works with his products- he has some huge skin in the game which makes me think 'bias'

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  7. Novah

    Novah New Member

    If you’re getting fatigue, depression, sleep issues etc it’s likely in part due to Seattle’s crappy, rainy weather. It sounds like you need trips south to get some sun.

    What’s your vitamin D level? And is that from real sun or supplements?

    Has your doc checked your b12/folate, thyroid/thyroid antibodies and ferritin levels? What’s your bun/creatinine ratio?

    How much fish do you eat?

    Do you eat dairy and gluten?

    How much time do you spend outside?
    How much time do you spend in front of screens?

    Do you have D minder on your phone?

    Have you checked your house for EMFs and geopathic stress, especially your bedroom?

    What’s the lighting like inside your house? (Ie incandescent, CFL, LEDs etc)

    Have you tested your house for mold?

    What about starting with baby steps?

    - I’m not a fan of chronic use of tanning beds, but what about doing an experiment— what about trying a few sessions and see if it has any effect on your symptoms - It’s something you can do immediately to see if you notice a change.

    - Sunshine trips — why not start small with vacations south for you and your wife. Or go by yourself if she’s not interested in joining.

    - Weekend getaways — if you feel Seattle is not working for you, what about driving a couple hours on the weekends to explore/stay in different areas to see how you feel and if you guys like the area.

    - If you haven’t already, get yourself to a good Chiro - they can work wonders.

    Other countries aren’t necessarily a blanket solution - everywhere has good and bad. India has a high rate of type 2 diabetics I believe, not to mention I know quite a few North Americans who have gone to India and ended up with some serious and long term tummy issues/complications.

    The benefits of the west coast is great fish, great water, clean air, tons of trees, easy access to nature, easy CT in nature, the ocean/mountains and lifestyle/healthy minded people. So there is a lot going for it, it’s just a matter of, can it work for you with some tweaks or do you need to make bigger changes.

    As for your relationship, here’s a stranger’s 2 cents... true love can be elusive so if this is someone you genuinely care about, I’d think carefully before I did anything drastic (while also knowing you need to take care of yourself).

    You also can’t force your spouse to do anything and the more you push, likely the more they’ll resist. All you can do is lead by example and if you’re having a good time/feeling good and looking good, she’ll likely start to join in.

    Chucking your life may work or may result in a huge depression. Personally, I like baby steps but everyone’s different.

    All the best :)
  8. Jeffrey Sloat

    Jeffrey Sloat New Member


    Thank you very much for your response. I got some labs done last week, I will post the results and a more detailed response at that point - but I wanted you to know I have seen your post and appreciated all the thoughts :)


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