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Dr John Gordon's newest cancer pt

Discussion in 'Beginners Area' started by Vervaina, May 8, 2018.

  1. Vervaina

    Vervaina New Member

    Posting this here - hopefully ok place to do so - While I am no beginner or newbie to Jack Kruse and this forum - I am new to cancer as of yesterday.

    I was introduced to PaleoRX and this forum 3-4 years ago by my naturopathic MD in California. Since then I have been printing and studying everything I could get my hands on here and living a new life of light, cold, h20, and magnetism.

    Had a bad looking breast thermogram, mri, and ultrasound and based on the info from Jack traveled to NOLA to see DR John Gordon (who is awesome BTW).

    Got bad news - yes to breast cancer and it looks to be spreading. He can't cut it out - too big. Looking at chemotherapy, then mastectomy to start :-( I shouldn't care about losing a breast but I have to admit this is really hard to take in right now.

    I know there are other (holistic) options out there but Dr Gordon says that my chance of survival will be poor without chemo. I guess sometimes it is a must? Wondering what others have on this.

    I have always been into health (the wrong health habits until I found Jack though) but I am in shock right now and feel so overwhelmed. Glad I started on DDW 3 weeks ago.

    Dr Gordon is great and will be my surgeon of choice for this but he told me to start looking for an oncologist. Does anyone know or any oncologist who might be lie minded? Or at least opened minded? Has anyone seen a recommendation from Jack about oncology (I am doubtful here but thought I would
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  2. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

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  3. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    You might want to get hold of Somylai book on deuterium ASAP.
  4. Vervaina

    Vervaina New Member

    Thanks so much for your words. Just bought the book today.
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  5. Penny

    Penny New Member

    Recently I read a few things that might help you - I read they took a breast cancer cell (in vitro), put methylene blue on it, shined a 660nm light on it and it went away - and left the good cells alone - second thing - I think Dr. K posted this one - if you do have surgery, take aspirin - I think for 5-7 days following the surgery because some of the cells that get loose then metasticize after the surgery - i.e. the surgery is the cause of the cancer relocating elsewhere - I will post the links if I can find them - you also might want to check out baking soda - there is a surgeon - I think in Italy who injected tumors with baking soda and cured them - I know it's an insane idea right now, but try to get your stress levels down any way you can - you also might look into Lugol's - I think Inger got rid of a lump with it - if you google Lugol's breast cancer there are some interesting links - Also, Laszlow Boros is at UCLA and is the foremost expert on deuterium depleted water in the country - since you're in L.A.... also I think it's astragulus root that helps with the nausea if you go the chemo route - take care and I'm so sorry you are going through this -
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  6. Vervaina

    Vervaina New Member

    Thanks so much Penny. I am a CA native but moved to KY 10 years ago. But I am rural so I DO Not use the local medicine show here :) It was Jack's work that showed me that a large part of my problem was when I moved from sunny San Diego to rainy/snowy part of KY. The first few years I would joke with my husband that the winters were "killing me" since I felt so crappy. Little did I know I was telling my own fortune!

    My Dr started me on topical lugol's some months back. I paint it directly on the cancer area x2 a day and it relieves the pain quite a bit which is great. Seems to have an effect on estrogen since I shrunk the cancerous breast a 1/2 size smaller than the other breast by doing so.

    I have been taking the MB I bought from Josh but maybe I should paint that on it as well.

    The aspirin suggestion is interesting. My doctor gave me a salve that lowers estrogen topically (or maybe blocks receptors, not sure) to help with cell metasticization after the core biopsies and surgery.

    But it seems like Jack's talk on breast cancer would tell me that if one was doing all they can (seafood, grounding, am light/uv, h20, sleep, ct, low tech, no light after sunset) then the cells wouldn't be given the environment they need to metasticize. That is why I have been trying to sell my house and move to a poor man's beach on the coast somewhere :) Trying to change the environment and all so I don't keep practicing the theory of insanity....
  7. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    You need to get to sun.......too.
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  8. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Sunlight creates a small stimulus in the visual pathways of stress that stimulates regeneration just as growth is created by adversity in life. The key is weather the storms we face. Once a storm has ended, you won’t remember how you made it through, or how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, whether the storm is truly over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm, you won’t be the same person who walked in. That’s what this storm’s all about. When the road is comfortable, you're likely going the wrong way. This is why some of us embrace discomfort by embracing curiosity.

    My prayers are with you but my ideas are like more powerful in Dr. Gordon's hands. He is all as a general surgeon FYI. Great guy but serious Black Swan mitochondriac.
  9. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Keith Block has been doing chrono-chemotherapy for years. I think he is the cancer MD in the US that does it. You'll have to find him. If you got to be on the poison at least do it with a circadian mindset
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    Jack Kruse Administrator

  11. drezy

    drezy New Member

    I'm also rural.

    For all the reasons cited in this thread I built an extra private area on my property for exactly these reasons.

    @Vervaina if you need any advice on building such an area or I can be helpful in any other way feel free to PM me. I wish the best for you and hope to hear your story unfold here for decades.
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  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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    drezy New Member

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  14. Penny

    Penny New Member

    If I had cancer, I would take DMSO and use it as a subcutaneous transport to the tumor - I would use baking soda, Lugol's and MB for the hack and IR light (goes deeper-850nm) - I'm not saying to do it, but DMSO will send anything under the skin - you also might check out Mark Sircus who uses baking soda for everything:

    Here is a fun article on DMSO and tumor shrinkage:

    Can you get down to the Yucatan? With what cancer treatments cost, it might not be such a bad or even expensive idea - the Defeating Cancer book is excellent - they tell you exactly what dose to use and they have gotten fantastic results with DDW -

    Here is the link for targeting tumors with red light therapy:
  15. EStein

    EStein New Member

    radiation hormesis - it's part of the quilt as well. www.nighthawkminerals.com

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  16. Vervaina

    Vervaina New Member

    Jack - Thank you so much for your thoughts here.

    Called the Block Center ASAP after talking with them we began intake and getting things started. I am so grateful you pointed me to them. And of course they are not quantum biologists so some things are going to clash :) but looks like someone might be able to go outside and ground while doing chemo (since they put you on a portable pump) that would be worth the cost and travel alone.
  17. Vervaina

    Vervaina New Member

    @drezy Thanks for the kind words! If you get a minute could you tell me the name of your thread where you talk about what you built on your property?
  18. drezy

    drezy New Member

    The post I showed and described the fenced in area is here. I'm still trying to make the top of the fence prettier, but hey, it works as is:

    I'm really happy with it because my wife spends all weekend out there and all day when she works from home. Her clothes come off when my son is in the cold tub or at a friends house. Obviously as a male I'm biased here, but as a mitochondriac there are documented benefits to that.
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  19. Vervaina

    Vervaina New Member

    @JanSz I started drinking DDW 3 weeks ago. I didn't bother with testing D levels since the doc thought it looked like I had cancer. I slowly sip 1 full bottle of Qlariviva 25 every AM on an empty stomach. I haven't noticed any positive or negative side effects (no hypoglycemia either).

    I also drink 2 bottles of Icelandic water (Amazon subscribe and save $14 for a case of 12) because I am rural and have no access to reverse osmosis. But when I travel to whole foods in a few weeks I am taking my 5 gallon glass wine carboys and fill them up.

    Anyone tested WF water??
  20. Vervaina

    Vervaina New Member

    @Penny thank you so much I am going to sit down tonight and look all this over. Thank goodness I had been using red light on my chest for the last year, I am sure it has helped things.

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