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Deuterium in foods

Discussion in 'Beginners Area' started by kris90, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Da-mo

    Da-mo Gold

    So is it the caffeine in coffee that does this? Wondering if decaffeinated would be any different . . .
  2. Mayuri

    Mayuri Silver

    Apparently the non decaffeinated has more of a synthetic chemical process that it goes through. It's actually worse.
    Coffee is grown in countries that have no regulations on pest sprays, they're loaded with poisons.
    Coffee also has inherent chemicals in them to keep bugs off them, a natural pesticide - that too isn't good for our health.

    I hear you. Coming off coffee is painful. All you have to do though is read the information Dr. Jack has up on 5G and you'll find it very easy to keep off it. There are smart meters all around us and you name it, we're being radiated. I really loved the cafe scene, especially sitting outside and watching all the people - it's fun in Vienna Berlin England Australia, little country towns, it's just great. They usually have free WIFI spaces in each one too now. Being on Jack's team now though I can see the system has made a hell whole out of it for us health wise. It's a damn shame. We've been sent back to nature. Grab a pal and go sit on the ground and have something good for you instead. I know, it's sad.
    For myself every time I long for a cup of coffee, I think about what I can't see that is all around me. . . and how my cells - unbeknowst to me. . . are fighting like mad to stay healthy.

    (Heavy coffee drinking has been associated with adrenal fatigue and leaky gut too.)
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2018
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  3. Ted

    Ted New Member

    So is it the caffeine or something inherent with coffee? Because you can buy decaf with the water process decaffeinating method that doesn't use chemicals. I don't need the caffeine but I love sipping a cup of coffee. Also, tea has caffeine.
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  4. kris90

    kris90 New Member

    Would love Jack to chime in on the coffee topic. I personally had never experienced an issue with coffee. It has not negatively impacted my sleep, or made me ill in any other way. I find it helps lower my appetite so I can fast longer. I never rely on it, it is more of a comfort and social practice to have a coffee with my wife or friends in the AM.

    If it's going to really F me up in a 5G world, I would have no issues giving it up. But I want to know specifically where the detriment is.
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  5. shiran

    shiran Curious

    Drinking it hot is also a issue....
  6. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

  7. drezy

    drezy Gold

    You should make it clear here that's the cancer treatment regime, right?

    Hmm half a luxury car price to strangle out cancer.
  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    For one animal.

  9. kris90

    kris90 New Member

    I understand drinking hot beverages = increases the concentration of fluoride. But suppose we make our coffee with really good quality, unfluoridated water? I wonder if this is still an issue.
  10. Butters

    Butters New Member

    Im interested in why coffee is bad. When you drink it with fluorided water, its clear. Is it the hot water or ingredients in the coffee, or the effect that coffee has or...?
    I have no problem to gut the connection to coffee, lucky me no withdrawl symptoms. I have simply more time without coffee drinking.
  11. Ted

    Ted New Member

    Well said...exactly my feelings.
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  12. Tanya

    Tanya Gold

    Another interesting study regarding deuterium depletion and cancer treatment.

    Attached Files:

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  13. Penny

    Penny New Member

    search for "kinetic isotope effect" on this forum... plus it's loaded with deuterium... and about 2000 different toxins... and kills sleep by binding to your adenosine receptor - which could also be loaded with deuterium... It also inhibits your P450 enzymes and makes you more estrogenic - might work for a menapausal woman in the sun but not for someone young or a guy... high estrogen=>cancer
  14. Penny

    Penny New Member

    does anyone know if the olive oil in canned oysters kills the absorption of zinc from them? Assuming it's even olive oil.... :)
  15. Da-mo

    Da-mo Gold

    Found this
  16. JanSz

    JanSz Gold


    Possibly this discussion should not be about coffee specifically
    but rather
    tropical foods in general.

    In food that we eat;
    only fats have a lower deuterium content, (everywhere),
    water and solids are high in deuterium (everywhere).
    They are high everywhere, but highest in tropics.

    This discussion started in December 2017 after Jack posted on FB.
    There was a chart that show coffees deuterium content according to latitude where it is grown. The farther from equator the less D.
    At that time I even found low D coffee sold on amazon.com per that chart.
  17. Ted

    Ted New Member

    Thanks for that. I'm feeling that coffee may not be great for you, but under the right conditions it should be OK. I use spring water for my coffee. I will look into low D coffee and maybe switch to water processed decaf.
  18. Ted

    Ted New Member

    Do you have that chart? Thanks
  19. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

    Good thing about this is that you can make coffee with DDW, and select the beans with least deuterium, beans from Bolivia: https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/deuterium-in-foods.20423/page-2#post-228418

    If the problem with coffee is heat and the the level of deuterium/type of water; then you can make only ice coffee with fat added and use DDW.
  20. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

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