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Deuterium in foods

Discussion in 'Beginners Area' started by kris90, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Lahelada

    Lahelada New Member

    Yes ,worse They are C4.
     
  2. shiran

    shiran Curious

    Nature surely put thought in it ....there is a reason for everything
     
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  3. Penny

    Penny New Member

    thanks for that:) Obviously, I'm not well read on this topic... if not completely lost, but, here is my wild guess as to what stuff we ingest works well because it depletes deuterium: bee propolis, rhodiola, olive leaf, astagulus, gotu kola, Japanese knotweed - many of these plants are labeled invasive - like the dandelions I eat at breakfast and it seems the more invasive they are, the better they are for you -
     
  4. Penny

    Penny New Member

    Oh, that's just great - you can't believe how much clay soil we have here... well, at least I jump into the ocean - I'm doing one good thing for myself:)
     
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  5. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member



    Slide with deuterium in food;
    Flour 150ppm
    Table sugar 146ppm
    Butter 124ppm
    Fatty acid animal fat 118ppm

    And another:

    Unsaturated plant source of fat at double bonds, high altitude with low photon pressure exposed grass 102ppm = lowest naturally deuterium depleted food
     
  6. Sun Disciple

    Sun Disciple AKA Paul...That Call Drop'n Canadian

    Was the butter and animal fat grass fed?
     
  7. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

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  8. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    When looking for a lots of energy
    it looks like if we can't get the ideal water
    we may substitute some with food.
    (If not oysters then something else.)
    But
    if our fatty acids
    and
    peroxisome are toast
    good water and oysters may not help much.
    And fatty acids have been tested by quite a few members here
    often not a pretty picture.
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  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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    Could someone please identify this fat.
    What is the name of food that contains it?


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  11. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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    What are those plant fats?????
    names


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  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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    Ok,
    how to get list of those plants and fats???
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2017
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  13. Inger

    Inger Silver

    So why is it that olive oil has higher deuterium than animal fat?
    What is whith sunflower seeds and Brazil nuts etc....

    Fish oils from seafood must be the most deuterium depleted fats ever :)

    I am on a deuterium depleting trip now..lol

    Just had raw herring and oysters for dinner, lunch was a steak from beef with beef fat, and breakfast was wild caught raw salmon. Drinking a few glasses of my home made deuterium depleted spring water..

    I wonder if Iodine helps deplete deuterium? I have read that Iodine increases oxygen in cells.. I got this very very cool euphoric feeling again after I increased my Lugols drops from about 5 / day to 15 (one drop has about 6 mg of iodine)
    I took less for a while..but figured I try more again and now I got this feeling that all my cells laughed, for a few hours.. amazing! I wonder if it has to do with the oxygen increasing?
    Uh I feel so non geeky... my brain just do not want to be a geek, no matter how much I try....
     
  14. drezy

    drezy Gold

    And why is it I can imagine anew kind of pig farm feeding seaweed and fish heads to piggies that do CT 3 times per week. Super low deuterium bacon for health!

    It looks like you are experiencing measurable subjective benefits. That beats geekiness in my book anyday.
     
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  15. drezy

    drezy Gold

  16. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

    Here's a sample report from Cignature Health for someone who had their body fluids tested for deuterium.
    http://www.cignaturehealth.com/wp-c...000x_YYYY_MMDD_Samples_Row01_Row04_NameMF.pdf
    Page 2 lists some more foods. We can add capsaicin to the low deuterium foods list.
    Grass fed cow butter is said to have 125ppm deuterium on another page.

    @JanSz The source for that plant fat is supposed to be http://www.jbc.org/content/280/18/17645.full
    Perhaps you can find the values in there.

    Like always I end up in a pile of interesting research so here are some other things:
    Some testing of fish here:
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/stor...bb&s=946bb90b8c5d117898d149560235d6d3760994ee

    More fish: http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conte...rt00011?crawler=true&mimetype=application/pdf
    Lower D in waters at high latitude.
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    We all seem to ditch coffee, but regardless the best comes from the Americas, high altitude coffees no doubt.
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  17. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    In previous posts we got that
    many popular mineral waters
    including San Pellegrino
    were tested and found to be loaded with deuterium,
    practically at about 155ppm level.

    Jack often mentions RO as a good candidate for lower D water.

    On page #2 of report in the link above I see
    Aquafina 139.5ppm
    http://www.cignaturehealth.com/wp-c...000x_YYYY_MMDD_Samples_Row01_Row04_NameMF.pdf


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquafina
    Aquafina Pure Water,
    the primary unflavored product produced under the Aquafina brand, is derived from local municipal tap water sources and goes through a purification process that incorporates reverse osmosis, ultraviolet, and ozone sterilization.
     
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  18. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

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  19. WalterNL

    WalterNL New Member

    @JanSz Well the mineral waters were still lower than the average, but aquafina would be on the lower end of those waters with about -100 promille compared to VSMOW.

    Though we should also note the following:
    By this I mean we need to find the right balance in deuterium in our food and water for our respective N=1. Given that the natural amount is very low (155 parts per million), and it still apparently has such a profound effect on biological processes, it's important to know how deuterium depleted your water/food should be. We can learn from nature; around the equator there's more deuterium in water, so it may not matter much when you're in the sun and grounded. At higher latitudes and altitudes the deuterium is lower, so it makes sense to pay more attention to deuterium in water and food. But so far I don't know whether that means if 140ppm would be okay, or 100ppm or lower even if those levels aren't readily found in nature. We need to know the context of when deuterium depletion with DDW would beneficial. When do you know you need to deplete more deuterium?
     
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  20. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Aquafina was tested.
    Aquafina 139.5ppm
    VSMOW=155ppm

    So it was even better than the estimate you have made.
    155-10=145
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    But I would appreciate if you could help me convert
    100 promille
    to
    ppm
    or just check if I understand you as I should.

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    I have found this:
    http://rapidtables.com/convert/number/ppm-converter.htm
    ppm converter
    Parts-per million (ppm) conversion calculator.
    Decimal, percent, permille, ppm, ppb, ppt conversion calculator
    but
    it does not have
    promille

    I have found
    https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promile
    and it looks like
    1 Promile=0.1%=0.001 decimal

    If that is what you used then
    -100 promile=0.01 promile=0.00001 decimal

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