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Deuterium Free Water

Discussion in 'The Epi-Paleo Diet' started by Danco3636, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    No I do not.
    I see this: upload_2018-11-17_12-43-13.png
     
  2. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Thank you.

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  3. Christina Johansson

    Christina Johansson New Member

    Molecular biology, functional biochemistry and deuterobolomics in scriptures I hope this link is ok. 31 min.
     
  4. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Where is the link?

    link= if I click on it, it will go to the article in question
    upload_2018-11-17_15-53-48.png
     
  5. Christina Johansson

    Christina Johansson New Member

    I do know what a link is and I tried to copy and paste here. If you are interested in seeing the video maybe you can reach it anyway, did you?
     
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  6. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    time 30:12
    He says that it is no rain there,
    rain comes not from river, not from flood but from mist from the earth
    that is deuterium depletion
    distillation

    upload_2018-11-17_17-38-11.png
     
  7. Christina Johansson

    Christina Johansson New Member

    You have to listen a bit earlier, he say 30.10 "Rain come from moist, moist from the earth has risen, that is actually DD and distillation. The rain that falls from the clouds is actually DDW".
     
  8. Christina Johansson

    Christina Johansson New Member

    So you agree that rainwater is DD water?
     
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  9. drezy

    drezy Gold

    I don't agree for my location. I had it tested too.
     
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  10. Christina Johansson

    Christina Johansson New Member

    Are you testing with a TDS-meter? I have a TDS and my machine-distilled water is 2 ppm, I guess its not as good as DDW?
     
  11. drezy

    drezy Gold

    TDS is used used for total dissolved solids. It's a cool tester.

    As you suspect though it will not detect deuterium fractionation.

    I had my rainwater tested by a lab Jan recommended. It's higher than VMSOW. I had a little cry and got over it.

    If you look at the below chart you'll get the drift that my climate in Central Texas is closer to the upper right is higher δ2H (aka more deuterium).

    If instead you're drinking meltwater in Vancouver then you'll be in the lower left(aka less deuterium).

    It kinda looks like if your lower latitude naturally taking in more deuterium you sure better be spending time in the sun. At least thats a big part of my takeaway.



    deuterium_geography.png
     
  12. Christina Johansson

    Christina Johansson New Member

    So my latitude in Sweden which is the same as Canada has relatively low deterium in the water, is that right? That is kind of a compensation for lesser sunlight. Anyway Im gonna start doing CT with the face in cold water, guess that is a compensation for less sunlight too:)
     
  13. drezy

    drezy Gold

    There's no way to know unless you tested it, though as a rule of thumb your water should be more depleted(further down and left on that chart).

    I'd encourage you to work your way into CT. Its worked wonders for me.
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2018
  14. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    When we consider deuterium and benefits of it avoidance
    and a fact that we are (mostly) not only drink (2-3 liters a day) local water
    and we breathing local humid air (2-3 liters of water a day)
    moving residence toward equator
    is counter intuitive.

    .
     
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  15. drezy

    drezy Gold

    To me it seems pretty obvious where Doc stands when people, in sometimes shabby conditions, ask if they could eat fruit (deuterium) at the equator and doc says go ahead.

    That seems to lay down some relative power differences of the knobs of the system (sun vs ddw) to me at least.
     
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  16. cmegan

    cmegan Silver

    Hi JanSc! So if I am understanding this correctly, the ONLY way to get DDW “inside” of your mitochondria is eat a high animal fat (grass fed) low deuterium diet to the point that your mitochondria makes its own DDW. Is that correct? I am trying to understand the mechanism that drinking DDW helps. If you stay high fat and are very strict with your diet and water intake, and have patience, then you will start to make your own DDW and you won’t have to make such an expensive purchase for the DDW. Dr. Cooper informed me that it is difficult for your body to clear deuterium without taking the DDW for several months. I’m starting to think otherwise, but I’m not sure. thanks!
     
  17. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    You are about right. (Or at least thinking the way I do).
    There is more.
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    2:40:00
    Boros eats bacon, steak and little bit of greens (he also said olive oil)
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    Why he eats what he eats?
    fat turns into water
    well not really fat, fatty acids give up hydrogen's.
    so, what kind fatty acids?

    I cannot find the proper chart now
    but the last time I have seen it I think it was
    Oleic Acid, C18:1w9
    Palmitic Acid, C16:0

    and nothing else
    what kind of foods have those fatty acids?
    oleic acid---->olive oil, pigs lard,
    palmitic------>butter from cows, coconut oil

    Make corrections/additions/clarifications please.

    ...........
    @drezy
    a homework
    what kind fatty acids donate H for matrix water production (charts and other (direct) supporting info)
    upload_2018-11-20_13-44-11.png

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    Last edited: Nov 20, 2018
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  18. GringoPerdido

    GringoPerdido New Member

    I think Jack was saying the best way to clear deuterium is with light... either sun light or the light created by cold exposure.
     
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  19. cmegan

    cmegan Silver

    Thank you!
    Thank you! I’ve been following the diet from the Paleomedicina group from Hungary and they don’t use any vegetable fats or dairy, but use lard, tallow, and offal. I will look up the fatty acid profile in beef tallow...
     
  20. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    lard---->fat from pigs

    wonder if there is a difference in pig fats
    from salo (fat under pigs skin)(delicious, I grew on it)
    from internal organs (I did not care for its taste)

    lard have a high %% of oleic acid (similar to olive oil)
    --------
    tallow----> beef fat
    --------
    offal
    the entrails and internal organs of an animal used as food.

    ...
    https://skipthepie.org/fats-and-oils/fat-beef-tallow/compared-to/lard/#fats
    upload_2018-11-20_14-37-20.png

    https://skipthepie.org/fats-and-oils/oil-coconut/
    coconut oil
    upload_2018-11-20_14-41-57.png
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2018
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