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Discussion in 'The New Monster Thread' started by diane, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. diane

    diane Gold

    I found the part about water in EMF7 really interesting - and the importance it plays in the cells. Also reinforced the importance of CT.

    It seems that we could be dehydrated, even if we drink a lot of water. If our cells are not working properly and can't use the water to unfold the proteins (did I get that right) then can that explain why you would urinate often when you drink, so water is not getting into the cells meaning dehydration. A comment was made a ways back about it being a good sign if you don't have to get up in the night anymore to pee - I'm assuming that's a sign that your body is able to use the water efficiently.

    I had a test a couple of years back that measured how much water you had in your cells. I had higher than normal amounts. In reading this, I think that means that my cells aren't able to convert the water into energy - so it sits in cells. So if water can't be used for energy, is that because there isn't enough energy in the cells to be able to convert? And lack of energy I think comes from low DHEA and melatonin which means poor sleep.

    So if many CW gurus recommend drinking water for weight loss because it staves off hunger, there are other reasons that it helps, not what they think. Anyone any thoughts?
  2. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    youre getting awfully smart diane..........
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  3. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    So this leads me to the question - of as I've adapted to Deep CT - I've noticed quickly I no-longer need to pee right after like I did in the beginning... I'd guess that's a good thing b/c the cold is allowing the ATP to unfold the proteins, so it can activate the PPP and my mitochondria are starting/attempting to use water as its energy source.

    interesting observation diane... I was thinking along different lines than you..but we're both getting to the same spot no less
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  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    great sign.........peeing at night is a sign I look for......means youre refilling nanotubes........when you get headache you are acutely dehydrating and having to run your ferrari on ATP to make due to free electron losses you cant see
  5. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    so that means, depending on where I am in my cycle - if Pg is lower, then the likely hood of dehydration is actually higher... interesting that the ability of accessing PPP to use ATP to unfold proteins to access water for super conduction is directly tide to Pg levels as well...
  6. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    you are really smart now..........LOL
  7. digital

    digital Gold

    Hi Shijin13- Curious to find how long it took, after CT'ing, the night peering to stop?
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  8. diane

    diane Gold

    Interesting Shijin! I like how the hormones will also impact the water conversion - I hadn't made that connection.

    So water that isn't converted is stored in cells, and once that's full, it is then discharged in urine? Maybe I'm oversimplifying this, but then is inflammation the excess water in cells? Or is it just one part of it.
  9. fitness@home

    fitness@home Silver

    I must be doing something right, since I no longer have to get up in the middle of the night. There was a time that 3-4 x per night was not unusual.

    Gretchen you are smart and know how your body functions very well. I am still learning with mine.
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  10. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    This also explains why women are adverse to cold at the beginning and end of their cycles - as Pg drops, dehydration increases, which causes an negative reaction to cold.

    it seems my courses is quantum physics & thermodynamics at school have finally come in handy in figuring out how to fix myself! who would have thought? they were two of my favorite courses too!

    That's the thing - at the end of my cycle and beginning of my cycle I still get up to pee - but not during the middle of my cycle. that's how I made the connection above. yet I no longer need to go after CTing... each of us is different - I've been CTing for a yr now, got pretty hard core this winter - 30deg water outside. ymmv
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  11. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    you are now Yoda.........
  12. nonchalant

    nonchalant Silver

    I know since I started grounding, I find it very easy to drink 1 to 1.5 gallons of good water now daily. I thought it would be difficult to put that much away, but I find I get quite thirsty if I slack off. Guess I'm refilling my 'tubes. Hope so.
  13. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    if you use the photoelectric effect with grounding your needs and want for water will begin to approach your aquatic ape ancestors...........and your brain will re grow faster and LS appears and labs become better.......your thinking improves and your life re evolves.
  14. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    so why did my thinking/cognition return before the LS for me? could it be my usual consumption of water is easily btwn 96-128oz of water/day? I realize I'm not following the same path every one else is.... I do think the sudden fitting into my pre-pregnancy clothes is 100% related to the grounding I've been doing over the past 3 weeks b/c I haven't been CTing as much as I should...
  15. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    I think there's a tanning salon - across the street -from work - may hit that up one evening...
  16. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Why do diabetics have poly uria and polydipsia as mainstay symptoms Yoda? Connecting any dots yet to why you get up to Pee at night too? PCOS and DM have any tie ins? See when you know better you do better...........IT is also why the hormones and sleep are trashed.......you lose water conduction you must live on ATP which is only made at sleep......you never can catch up when water conduction is lost and time speeds up for your telomeres and your labs get trashed.........the circle of sickness in one post.
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  17. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    sub-optimal water levels due to dehydration at the cellular level within the mitochondria b/c they're functioning on ATP via the least effective form of ATP Generation, which increases leakiness at Cytrochrome 1. PCOS and DM - both are diseases that directly impact Cytrocrhome 1 b/c they are the result of inefficient mitochondria, b/c they're running on ATP instead of water, and incorrect insulin production b/c the mitochondria are using ATP instead of PPP to access water. This is why mitochondria are only 39% efficient when running on ATP. Where as they're 100% efficient, when using the PPP and ATP to unfold the proteins, to access the water for unlimited energy. Reversing PCOS and DM require PPP pathway to activated to access 100% mitochondrial efficiency, however for the PCOS - you're not going to be able to do that while the Pg:E2 ratio is still upside down. You have to both activate the PPP via ketosis and cold, while increasing Pg, other wise you're not going to see progress.

    Which during the last 5days of my cycle, and first 5days of my cycle, when Pg drops, dehydration increases, leakiness at cytochrome 1 increases, which means I'm relying on ATP, instead of access PPP - thus I for 10days each month I'm operating at 39% or less efficiency, and the remainder of the cycle my body is doing its best to get into the PPP and getting above the 39% - but I'm not yet to 100% efficiency - b/c if I was I wouldn't tank, and I wouldn't have the migraine at/around cd 23/24 and waiting for one to pop again sometime around cd 2/3.

    I'm using this as my update to dzugan this week... see if I can make his head spin.... :)

    ETA: the reason why PCOS and DM pee is b/c they can't use what little water they have in their bodies, which is why the have the thirst. Also realized - this how high altitude gets you, regardless of how much water you drink. when your body isn't efficient it can't use the water it has, and at altitude you need more to function even at 39%, let alone access the PPP to increase efficiency.
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  18. MamaGrok

    MamaGrok New Member

    My water history:

    - in childhood: normal water drinking, normal peeing, never at night
    - around 20, drank 128oz/day because "they" told me to. Normal peeing
    - when pregnant, peeing at night, otherwise, normal
    - around 30, switched to unprocessed high fat ancestral foods, also realized that between whole foods and no longer being thirsty all the time, I didn't need to drink much. Normal peeing. Actually, less than most women, but it seems natural to me not to have to pee all day, ancestrally thinking.
    - last pregnancy, no need to pee at night
    - currently, still normal thirst, normal (not "8 cups/day") drinking, never pee at night

    Yet my labs have always shown signs of dehydration in the urinalysis, and according to Dr. Kruse, other labs I previously didn't know to interpret as dehydration. My skin shows no signs of dehydration.

    I retain water across my body like crazy at times, and when it goes, I pee all day till it's gone. It's clear I have a water problem, but I am still not sure what causes me to go in and out of the phases of water retention. It seemed for a while that the combination of ox bile + no carb was getting rid of it, but here I am again, and after a week of very strict eating, my thighs are still 1-1/4" bigger than they were a month ago. I still pee normally & drink to thirst & a bit beyond.

    This despite having implemented 2 of the 3 Mg's + D-ribose so far (I am adding in Mito Rx supp's slowly to watch what each does).

    I do have very low Pg and am working on seeing a specialist to help me get some BHRT.
  19. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Gretch you are Yoda............no doubt.
  20. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    who would have thought in my free-time I'd get an on the fly degree in bio-chemistry at the quantum level :)

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