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CT simple questions

Discussion in 'Cold Thermogenesis' started by GringoPerdido, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. GringoPerdido

    GringoPerdido New Member

    Couple simple questions on CT Kruse’s way. I learned the Wim Hof way which is a bit different.

    1- How do you decide when to get out at the beginning?

    2- Do you stay in if shivering?

    3- Over time, does the shivering go away?
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  2. drezy

    drezy New Member

    My family's N=3

    10-15 minute timer. Now a 20-30 minute timer. I sometimes get a little burp near 20 minutes in that I assume is a signal of some sorts like my gut vitamin d receptor calling up from the engine room.

    None of us remember shivering much.

    For all in my family we do not shiver anymore. I did 2 x 5min dunks at 42ºF yesterday and layed on a lounge chair afterwards. No shivers.

    Answers above from my wife and son.
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  3. GringoPerdido

    GringoPerdido New Member

    Thanks for the info.

    I’ve been shivering at 3 minutes or so. Controlling water temp outside is harder now. I’m using a 100 gallon horse trough.

    Feels great but unsure if I should shiver and stay in or get out.
  4. drezy

    drezy New Member

    You've been at it for more than a couple months from what I recall.

    Fatty DHA stuffed meal prior?

    Here's a little reassurance:
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  5. GringoPerdido

    GringoPerdido New Member

    Thanks for the links.

    I just restarted CT training a week ago. Was doing occasional Wim Hof style dips.

    Yes to dha, fatty meals before.

    Feels like my body is shifting in a good direction. Sleep is getting much better. More confidence. More libido.

    Will keep shaking my way through it and bumping up the times.
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  6. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Those are big wins in my book.

    If you post back here with your time bumping process it may be useful for someone else in your situation in the future.
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  7. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    I’ve been doing longer (50 min) but less frequent sessions because I (mistakenly?) thought longer was better. Plus getting the tub filled enough to cover mid-torso uses so much water it feels wasteful to not stay in as long as possible. Plus damn the warmup is difficult now that the sun can’t joyfully help it along...

    I don’t shiver much beyond the initial shock (~50F well water) till about half an hour in, then I slog it out the last 15-20 minutes because I feel I should be pushing myself. Maybe I need to just get out before it becomes torturous.

    Still hate cold showers (and so does my tangly hair). Currently start with warm to tepid, then end with a reluctant minute or so of cold on head and backside.
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  8. GringoPerdido

    GringoPerdido New Member

  9. shah78

    shah78 Gold

    1.i used a therometer for first year.. temp rose for first 15-20 minutes (cool as shit to watch ) and then i would get out as soon as I got down to original temp. so 25 minutes. 2. I have never shivered in water. I've done over2000 hrs of ct at 50 degrees. I've shivered 3 times afterwards. I like to take a walk afterwards.
  10. Butters

    Butters New Member

    Thats a nice hack, would like to see that with me :D
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  11. My building has an outdoor pool. I'm going to try to start with 5 minutes on a Sunny day!
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  12. GringoPerdido

    GringoPerdido New Member

    I wonder if shiver correlates to Omega 3/6 balance?

    Mine is probably way off because of my almond/brazil nut addiction.

    @Jack Kruse make sense that shiver correlates with omega balance?
  13. drezy

    drezy New Member

    You can kick that addiction to the curb. I believe in you brother. One day at a time.
  14. GringoPerdido

    GringoPerdido New Member

    Hahaha. It’s not that bad.

    But if I go on a bender, I’ll think of you and proceed to my local almonds anonymous meeting.
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  15. drezy

    drezy New Member

    Let me know when you start snorting them. Because
    1. I'll start to worry about you
    2. It'll be really cool to tell people that I know a dude that snorts Brazil nuts
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2018
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  16. Butters

    Butters New Member

    Other question:

    Jack wrote in the CT protocol, that adapting to the cold would take shorter time with eating lot of carbs and vice versa longer time with eating ketogenic?
    Is that a mistake, because he is advocating a ketogenic diet and in the autumn and winter there are less or no carbs?
    If that isnt a mistake, can someone explain that to me?
  17. Sean Waters

    Sean Waters New Member

    I get the same experience.... initial shiver, 20-30 mins I'm chilling (relaxed), and then from there I shiver progressively more violently until about 50-60 mins when I get out.

    I wonder if we have similar Haplotypes and what our SNPs are?

    I have a huge amount of 03 daily. I tested 1:1 in blood serum 06:03.

    But, if that last comment is right - then more 06 and carbs = better adaption? I read that O3 is needed in Cold, but maybe I'm wrong.
  18. Saichi

    Saichi New Member

    I've found that 20 minutes in the morning and 35 to 40 minutes at sunset is ideal in 50 deg ocean. This way I never shiver during or afterwards.
  19. Phosphene

    Phosphene Gold (finally)

    I posted this a few months ago but haven’t gone any further down that rabbit hole yet.


    @Saichi you are so fortunate to have the ocean twice a day! I’ve been heading down to a local river a few times a week but it’s nowhere near the same...

    I’m repeating this affirmation now:

    I live near a tropical ocean Nov-April...

  20. Alex97232

    Alex97232 Gold

    OK, so where is it going to be? Sounds really good.
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