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Cold Laser Therapy Devices

Discussion in 'The New Monster Thread' started by OptimalSkr, Oct 8, 2021.

  1. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

    Hi all,

    Just wondering if anyone has tried home use cold laser therapy and if so what were the results.

    This TerraQuant TQ Solo Portable Cold Laser is the best selling one on the market.


    Does anyone know how these compare to the red light LED panels like the:

    Joov - https://joovv.com/

    EMR Tek - https://emr-tek.com/

    I remember Jack saying something about the flicker being bad with these? But does that outweigh the benefit?

    Also what is the difference between these and just using a normal incandescent red bulb like:

  2. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

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  3. Most cold laser products are too weak for therapeutic results in office settings. They have "testimonials" and may be used without harm by unskilled users.
    However, what works takes more "energy". That's why Dr. @Jack Kruse found the https://emr-tek.com/collections/red-light-therapy/products/firehawk effective.
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  4. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    There are at least two ways to look at the problem.

    When a doctor buys it for use at his/her patients, the assumption is that the light will be used at short intervals by many patients.
    When a person buys it for home use, the constraint of timing is less.

    In both cases, it would be a good idea to know recommendations of the length of exposure in front of these lights,
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  5. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

    Ok ya that makes sense, the more power the less time needed. But also the higher the price... I assume the lights and wavelengths are similar, but just the power level changes.... You get what you pay for.

    So for the EMR ones:
    Inferno - 770 watts ----- Price 800
    Firestorm - 1060 watts ------ Price - 1000
    FireHawk - 5300 watts ----- Price 10,000
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  6. Sajid Mahmood

    Sajid Mahmood Silver

    Is the FireHawk better than the NovoThor?
  7. Naghman

    Naghman Naggu

    So does this mean I don't need to spend 10000 dollars to buy FireHawk. Just use Inferno for longer duration and get same benefit?
    Will good to know if someone has put the effort to calculate if 10 mins of FireHawk exposure will give same benefit if I get 1 hour of Inferno exposure? Will it penetrate same tissue depth?
  8. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

    The firehawk probably has the exact same bulbs as the firestorm, but the firestorm only really covers a small area of your body.... You could buy 3 firestorms and that would be good - but its just about how much time you have to spend....
  9. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

    How much is that device? - Also not sure if you would want to be lying down on it - what about the EMF's???
  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

  11. Sajid Mahmood

    Sajid Mahmood Silver

    NovoThor is too expensive, plus i think the power of both is around the same. I was just curious to know if the NovoThor has any advantages over the FireHawk in terms of the biological side. For me, i’d take the FireHawk all day every day due to it’s price
  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    What I am missing in these light discussions is recommended exposure time.
  13. Sajid Mahmood

    Sajid Mahmood Silver

    i think it’s three times a day, 20 minutes each session. 60 minutes in total. Depends on the power of the device, and distance from the device too. The more power the less time because of biphasic dose response
  14. Muhammad Choudhry

    Muhammad Choudhry New Member

    Is this true and verified?

    Cos if the firestorm has the same power and penetrance then I would buy 2 firestorm
  15. Muhammad Choudhry

    Muhammad Choudhry New Member

    I emailed emr tek and got this reply regarding comparison of Firehawk with Firestorm

    "I think that the firehawk is on an entirely new level in regards to red light - but in Canada we actually are more restricted than the USA even - we cannot make any therapeutic claims.

    Maybe we can arrange a phone call at your convenience"
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  16. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

    Let us know what they come back with..
  17. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

    Go to 9:30 for dosage times
  18. Muhammad Choudhry

    Muhammad Choudhry New Member

    I spoke to emr tek guy

    Seems that Firestorm is pretty powerful but only covers less surface area. So one may buy 2 or 4 Firestorm and have the same effect as Firehawk.
  19. Muhammad Choudhry

    Muhammad Choudhry New Member

    My Mitogen consumes 365 W. Nothing compared to Firestorm. Lol!

    I already have 2 Mitogen infrared panels.
    Was thinking why should I spend more money on Firestorm?
    But seems like higher power = higher penetrance and photobiomodulation affect.
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  20. OptimalSkr

    OptimalSkr New Member

    Dude just go for it - I have the firestorm and it is AMAZING!!! SO bright and powerful

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