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chaos and coherence

Discussion in 'Ask Jack' started by Anne V, Feb 16, 2019.

  1. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    How do they relate ? i suppose we need both
    we 1st need chaos for creativity, and then coherence ? it is confusing
    no coherence without chaos 1st????
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2019
  2. Jack Kruse

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    Chaos is needed for creativity and being coherent increases your creativity because order manifests from chaos via the butterfly effect.
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  3. Jack Kruse

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    To understand chaos you must understand how thermodynamics, morphogenesis, and information theory all interconnect. The person who found this link first was Alan Turing.

    His 1952 paper on Morphogenesis was the first time anyone began to examine how nature uses math to create a logic information space to build life from abiotic atoms.

    How did these ideas become linked and why did this eventually lead the creation of the computer and to logic theory based on computation? This juxtaposition might be fun and a bit shocking for you to learn. You have to understand some basics about information theory to make sense of Turing was doing in his brilliant mind back in 1952.

    Biologic researchers are paying much more attention LATELY to mechanisms that "actively erase" and hide memory engrams in the brain of humans to truly understand the role of chaos in building the creative mind.

    WHY would they do this? If you cannot erase memory you cannot build a life that is based upon thousands of quantum computers working in unison to skate around the second law of thermodynamics to become the ultimate Maxwell demon.

    What do I mean by this?

    The erasure of information is what drives entropy increases over time. This is a consequence of having 1 billion light photons to one atom ratio in the universe.

    Because of information theory the brain has to be designed to forget information on purpose to satisfy the dictims in the second law that Maxwell hinted at in his letter to a friend written about "demons". We later called them Maxwell demons. I talked about this on the blog and webinars over 5 years ago and left it.......until we got to the Quantum Thermodynamic series on Patreon.

    The first law of thermodynamics says energy is fixed in the cosmos because it cannot be created or destroyed. If energy is fixed in the universe, and the speed of light is fixed in a vacuum, what does it mean when we know there are one billion photons present in the cosmos for every atom in the known universe?

    It means light is the "Jacquard card" or the Claude Shannon punch card of life inside of cells........

    Jacquard built the first computer (pre-Turing or Shannon) that used punch cards to make silk patterns using a binary pattern of open circles and closed circles using the loon to make unbelievable complex patterns in silk for his linens in France. Shannon did the exact same thing for Bell Labs using the binary code to make sense of all the information they were collecting. Turing was the guy who made sense of the process between chaos and order using logic theory.

    A mitochondria is functionally a Turing perpetual motion machine for electrons and protons. As long as both move......creativity can be created from chaos.

    So how did Mother nature build her first computer called a cell?

    Well because there are one billion photons for every atom she started with light. She realized 4.6 billion years ago that light contains both energy and information at a ratio of a billion to one. Of the two she was the first to realize that information in light could be used to organize matter.

    It took until Maxwell's paper on Maxwell demons in the 1860s, for anyone else to realize the power of this idea.

    Light is the qu"bit" cells use to transfer information. Information is buried in OAM of light. The energy in light is buried in frequency. Since there are one billion photons per atom energy and information has to flow from light to atoms. It cannot flow the other way, just like a waterfall cannot flow in reverse.

    A billion to one ratio is like asking a 20,000 waterfall to reverse its flow without adding a bit of energy to it. IMPOSSIBLE

    There is no way for matter to transmit the information or energy to light to reverse the flow of information transfer because of this primordial ratio of a billion to one and the unlimited OAM in light compared to electrons and protons. This means that atoms made up of these electrons and protons are the hardware of the computer and light is the software that runs the computer. Don't computers have two types of memory? RAM and disc drive? This is where memory is stored on computers.

    Is memory stored in the OAM of electrons, protons, and light in our condensed matter? YEP

    The implications of this situation mean information and energy move from light to matter all of the time in one direction because of the second law of thermodynamics and what it says about entropy. Boltzman is who created the formula for entropy pre Turing.

    Why did Mother Nature choose light for our memory source?

    Light is the ONLY particle that seems to have an unlimited amount of OAM, and OAM = information quanta.

    That is not true about electrons or protons. OAM of both is limited in these particles of matter.

    Information can create order from chaos only when we store information about light in our memory (water). What is the physical basis of this? With elapsed time, just as RAM or a hard drive becomes full, light information will fill the capacity of water's hydogen bonding network and fill up all the possible memory, and memory will then become a drag on function and life will decline. How did life change this phenomenon? It innovated sleep. Sleep is fundamental to creating order from chaos and that means those who sleep well will be more creative. Think about Micheal Jackson now. As a kid when he could sleep he was massively creative. What did he really do after 1984 when his sleep went awry from his blue-lit nnEMF lifestyle? He lost his creativity.

    Sleep is when we prune our memory in light and in water. Information can only be useful on an ongoing basis if it is useful and used over and over and deemed critical, or until it is deemed useless and the memory mechanism in cells deletes information contained in light or water from our stores. When this happens it balances the second law of thermodynamics. It appears life breaks the law but she never does because she return useless information back to the environment she no longer needs to build order and the living state.

    This means there really is no free lunch in living things. How did life do this? Evolution built sleep to be mandatory. This is where memory in water is being deleted diurnally so that we can continue to use the information to order our cells while we live.

    The routine erasure of information during sleep is what drives entropy increases over time in the living system. This is a consequence of having 1 billion light photons to one atom ratio in the universe.

    Water carries light information in the coherent domains of water's hydrogen bonding network of pentagrams or hexagons. This is why water has the ability to carry a memory of lights OAM fingerprint. It is codified in the EZ hydrogen bonds and its increasing dielectric constant. And we are designed to sleep every night to erase part of the information stored in water that cells find superfluous on a charge basis. (Luc Montagnier)

    How do we delete information? Have you ever heard of the Landau limit? That is how we do it.

    Do cortical neurons using adenosine or those that require glutamate containing cells that make GABA but guess what their partner glial cells also release during a stressor stimulus?

    Could they be key in why we forget by design to satisfy the 2nd Law? Yes.
  4. Jack Kruse

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  5. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Why is this ^^^^^ critical?
  6. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    How do I make the turn from biology back to information theory?

    Turing's work on the mathematics of morphogenesis work was almost identical to Boris Belousov's work (BZ effect) on chemical oscillation theory of glucose metabolites........but showed different facets of the butterfly effect at operational levels in biology.

    The BZ effect in biology was predicted by Turing's equations in his 1952 paper on morphogenesis. Turing's idea became the sperm and egg for Shannon's information theory.

    Belousov experiments on the oscillation of glucose metabolites is the forerunner of the Warburg shift we see in mitochondria. A Warburg shift just tells us the UCP-2 gate is open too much to deuterium and that decreases matrix efficiency and lowers mitochondrial redox = breaking apoptosis which leads to cancers in tissues with this switching = loss of information in cells. Any loss of information directly affects mass equivalence in a cell.

    When the Warburg shift happens in a cell, it is a piece of a signal that information has been lost in the biological system. What is that change in humans? Things with mass like melatonin are lost. The cell loses the ability to make enough of it from light and water in a cell.
    Melatonin controls mitochondrial DNA via autophagy and apoptosis efficiency, and dopamine creation from light and amino acids in the eye and brain controls how we decipher and sense time between the inside and the outside world. Creating melatonin in the eye/skin is the most critical surface for humans and disease generation. Melatonin controls all regeneration of the photoreceptors in man except the Muller cells in the eye. Both of these chemical molecules are made by sunlight as it collides with aromatic amino acids in our eye/skin to slow light down. When light is slowed down things with mass are made. Information loss creates changes in things with mass via the Landauer principle. That is how they link to one another and how they work in a cell.

    Dr. Melvin Vopson of the University of Portsmouth, in the UK, has a hypothesis he calls the mass-energy-information equivalence. It states that information is the fundamental building block of the universe, and information has mass. His idea is not crazy. If you look at Boltzman's equation for entropy and Shannon's equation for information transfer you will see the mathematic equations are identical. Biology still has not realized this likeness at your peril. Popson's idea accounts for the missing mass within galaxies, thus eliminating the hypothesis of dark matter entirely. Not only does his paper explain why dark matter is a bad idea, but it also explains why diseases like cancer show up when information is lost in tissues when light is lost in the system. This idea is buried in the work of Fritz Popp and Roeland Van Wijk What is the information superhighway in cells? It is light frequencies that are stored by dissipative systems that are magnetically coded for by nucleic acids. In mtDNA, they can be changed by light changes.

    Proof of physiologic work is found in mitochondrial energy transformation. The Warburg shift mimics blockchains in a cell. A change in mitochondrial biology or mtDNA codifies that an information transfer or change has happened. In 1961, Landauer first identified the link between thermodynamics and information theory by postulating that the logical irreversibility of a computational process implies physical irreversibility. His idea indicates that information is a physical quantity in digital systems, his idea demonstrated the link between information theory and thermodynamics. The Warburg shift indicates that information is a physical quantity in biological systems linking a loss of light information in cells to its potential thermodynamics. This is how redox shifts occur in living systems.

    After Belousov quit science because of the rejection of his magnificent papers in Russia and Turing's suicide due to homosexuality conviction in the UK in the 1950s many other scientists showed that many reactions if placed in a petri dish began to magically lead to self-organization. They went beyond Turing's blobs and stripes he mentioned in his morphogenesis paper. They lead to highly complex behavior as we see in water and protein networks in self-organization as we see in life, and the destruction of self-organization we see in neurodegeneration models.

    These patterns of self-organization seemingly come from nowhere in life, just like neurodegeneration does in our modern world and what seemingly happened to the King of Pop. He appeared to lose his edge overnight considering how his life changed so quickly. Our heartbeat normally functions in the same way..........using self-organization of CHAOS via HRV!!!!

    Chaos allows for some very simple equations with nothing random in them leads to some very interesting things. In these equations, we know everything about them. Everything is determined. These equations, however, can lead to outcomes that are entirely unpredictable. Edward Lorenz, a meteorologist forced the idea of chaos in science and it was what eventually took the Newtonian paradigm down in the 1960s. Lorenz gave us the term the butterfly effect.

    Lorenz paper also destroyed Newtons' clockwork universe because it showed it showed weather patterns were about chaotic weather patterns that defined non-linear and non-equilibrium states. He tried to find math equations to help determine the pattern of weather. Ironically, his paper also reflected Einstein's time relativity.

    He wrote down simple math equations that determined air current and he found out that none of the air currents did what the equations said they should do. In fact, his equations made no useful predictions whatsoever. ==== they described the butterfly effect

    In the 1970s, Robert May studying the mathematics of animal population growth changed over time found the Lorenz butterfly effect in his own work.

    This ended Newton's belief paradigm that time is absolute and that an equation was deterministic about anything in nature. Even though Newton got us to the moon..........Lorenz, May, Turing, Warburg, and Belousov all showed us nothing in biology is Newtonian or LINEAR. Even today, 99.9% of PhDs and MDs still have no idea how these ideas are working in living systems at nano to femto time levels. The Black Swan I train, will learn about these ideas here.

    In the 1960s the belief was as we got more computer power (Turing's influence) we would easily be able to solve the more complex problems. Shannon extended Turing's ideas in information. It turns out that failed too.

    It seemed Nature, especially biology was all NON-Newtonian. Newton's clockwork universe was a giant illusion of scientism because we did not understand how the flow of information is accounted for in thermodynamics. Boltzmann's works dealt with classic thermodynamics, not quantum dynamics that also considers information as a physical quantity with mass. Chaos and information theory opened the door to Quantum Thermodynamics. This is the stage life plays on in all of us. This explains why modern medicine remains impotent to solve modern disease epidemics. Almost all of them are caused by alien light frequencies used in communication that cause mass equivalence shifts in cells to alter the ability to properly transform energy in cells. This logical certainty of Newtonian science turned out to be an act of faith = religious dogma.

    CHAOS IS ALL ABOUT Quantum Thermodynamics and very few in science realize this insight.

    Chaos is everywhere and nature hardwires it into everything. Information theory is all about chaos and how chaos can be organized into order by cells and their use of fractal geometry. Mandelbrot soon showed up on the scene from IBM in the late 1960s and proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt that chaos does organize geometrically into sizes and shapes by themselves without any needed energy added to the system when he innovated fractal geometry. This is the geometry that all of nature is based on. Nature uses the fractals in water changed by light to alter protein confirmations to maximize both energy and information transfer.

    Mathematics can describe nature with a simple equation but it can never explain it because the effects of small things in these equations lead to unpredictable results. This is when Turing and Belousov's work began to be appreciated by guys like ME.

    There ideas links to order and chaos in nature because it leads to patterns and topologic effects of proteins floating in a sea of water created by mitochondria

    Small changes in free radical signaling or the isotope of hydrogen in mitochondria could lead to tissue formation or deformation in an animal. This deformation is what the Warburg shift is all about. These small changes altered the way matter organized in health and diseases states.

    The mathematics of chaos rules are simple but always involves coupling or a feedback mechanism. For cells that feedback mechanism is based upon light and dark.

    Is this why Jack is so into circadian biology? YES.

    A picture in a picture in a picture is an example of a feedback loop and this is exactly what a fractal does. A fractal is a self-similar geometry found in nature. Self-similar things can undergo small quantum changes and this leads to a pattern, and size and shape change. This leads to chaotic behavior and pattern behavior.


    In the 1960's Bell Labs was struggling with their telephone business. Every day they transmitted unbelievable amounts of electronic information globally. They had no idea how to control it or use it. This is exactly what the state of affairs is today in medicine. We have no idea how the sun communicates to the nuclear genome or the mitochondrial genome to make sense of waves in the environment to control the highly ordered living process in us. Bell Labs has no way how to even measure this information properly back then. Today, in medicine, we have no way to measure the information running from outside in, or from mitochondria to nucleus either. This is why doctors are impotent in solving modern disease epidemics. Bell Labs could not even quantify the information they collected from their business.

    The same thing is true in medicine presently. How do we quantify redox potential today in clinical medicine? We don't so the paradigm just shrugs its shoulders and goes down other biologic pathways of thinking while humans get more ill and die sooner.

    In short, Bell Labs' entire business in the 1960s was built on something they just did not understand at all. It is amazing when you think about it. You can amass billions of dollars, yet still, be completely clueless about how you made it. This sounds like medicine and Big Technology positions today, doesn't it? Their customers are paying the price of this Dunning Kruger effect in time and disease.

    How did Bell Labs repair this gaping hole in their business model? They turned to a Black swan in their company named Claude Shannon. He was able to solve the problem by seeing the invisible before anyone else could. In a way, our Center is a lot like Dr. Shannon. Shannon gave Bell Labs the proper ass-kicking when he wrote a paper in 1948 about using mathematics to control data. The paper, "A Mathematical Theory of Communication" really is what MY Quantum thermodynamics thesis is on my Patreon blog. Nobody really understands these parallels today because no one seems to realize that Quantum thermodynamics is the mathematics that dictates how nature processes energy and information in living systems. In his paper, Shannon took the vague concepts of information and pinned it down to what its essence was all about. He asked what was the minimum requirement needed to create a message that could still be deciphered well. The equation he came up with looks identical to Boltzmann's equation for entropy.

    He did this by actually figuring out how to measure the information in the messages. At Kruse Longevity Farm, we've done the same thing with mitochondrial biology, yet the world is sleeping on us. Shannon realized that the quantity of the message had ZERO to do with its true meaning. The same thing is true with the Warburg shift. Instead, messages in cells wholly relate to how unusual the message as compared to the standard boilerplate. He came up with a way to quantify this using a pattern of numbers. Using a "one and zero" is all it took to solve Bell labs' problems around understanding information.

    This was how the binary code was discovered for digital computing and it was the beginning of information theory for humanity. He coined the term bit for information theorists. Qubit is what cells use. Photons have a quantum spin number that mimics the 1 and 0's in computer code.

    At Kruse Longevity Center we've discovered a similar code in the living system that uses optical coding of Orbital angular momentum. The Rosetta stone of health is linked to understanding is the bare minimum a cell can tolerate to still properly function. It appears light signaling in cells requires mitochondrial redox power to be maintained between -200mV and -400mV in our colony of mitochondria.

    That code involved the electrons and protons in mitochondria and how their signals are handled using their quantum spin state. Their spin state mimics the 1's and 0's of Claude Shannon. The spins of electrons/protons are not only manipulated by magnetic fields (ATPase of mitochondria) but also by electrical fields (proteins side chains) and can be used to collect and store information from electrons or the photons they carry. All magnetic drives use spintronics today to magnetically store data on hard drives on digital computers.

    At our center, we've uncovered how mitochondria do this with quantum spin states. You might want to pay attention to us.........we think we're going to change the world of medicine just like Claude Shannon changed the digital age. Understanding business test cases can help you become a Black Swan mitochondriac. Small examples below in pictures of what the world of Big tech is doing to all of you below your perception.

    Almost every cell of every organism has its own little clock, but what makes it tick? Could it be how it controls time using light and information quanta?

    In 1971 Seymour Benzer, a professor at the California Institute of Technology in the US, and his graduate student Ronald Konopka exposed fruit flies to ethyl methylsulfonate to create errors in their DNA. They created mutants that behaved as if they had evolved on different planets, worlds with rotation periods of 19 or 27 hours, or with no intrinsic light and dark cycle. Remarkably they were able to show that a single gene, a specific piece of DNA, was responsible for this change. How do you change DNA like this? The free radical signal of the mitochondria is what changes that state. That is the biological version of the butterfly effect.

    This was the first time behavior rather than physical characteristics, such as eye color or wing shape had been linked to a gene. Their paper only got 9 citations in the literature in a DECADE. Yet, in 2017 they won the Nobel Prize for understanding how this one gene, called PER, was the key to understanding the clock and how information would be handled. That is how light creates creativity. Light alters the free radical signaling and this changes how much dopamine and melatonin are made in the neuron using the spin state of the radical, O2 levels, and the movement of lactate to and fro. GOT it?

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  7. Jack Kruse

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    Back to Lactate and glucose:


    Lactate--not glucose--is the primary energy substrate in ALL mammals. You might want to read that again FOLKS. Now you know that the levels of Vitamin C in the glial cells are linked to the amount of catecholamine made. Is dopamine a catecholamine? YEP. Is dopamine levels related to creativity? YEP. Where is the lactate glucose paper Uncle Jack? https://www.nature.com/articles/nature24057

    Glucose is the monosaccharide utilized by most eukaryotes to generate metabolic energy, and in the majority of eukaryotic systems, glycolysis is the first biochemical pathway where glucose breaks down via a series of enzymatic reactions to produce relatively small amounts of adenosine triphosphate (ATP). In 1940, the sequence of these glycolytic reactions was elucidated, a breakthrough that was recognized as the very first such elucidation of a biochemical pathway in history. Accordingly, the glycolytic breakdown of glucose ends up either with pyruvate as the final product under aerobic conditions or with lactate, to which pyruvate is being reduced, under anaerobic conditions. Consequently, pyruvate has been designated and is held to be the substrate of the mitochondrial tricarboxylic acid cycle, where it is completely oxidized into CO2 and H2O, while lactate has been defined and being held to as a useless dead-end product, poisonous at times, of which cells must discard off quickly.

    More than four decades after the glycolytic pathway has been elucidated, studies of both muscle and brain tissues have suggested that lactate is not necessarily a useless end product of anaerobic glycolysis and may actually play a role in bioenergetics. These studies have shown that muscle and brain tissues can oxidize and utilize lactate as a mitochondrial energy substrate. These results have been met with great skepticism, but a large number of publications over the past quarter of a century have strengthened the idea that lactate does play an important and, possibly, a crucial role in energy metabolism. These findings have shed light on a major drawback of the originally proposed aerobic version of the glycolytic pathway, that is, its inability to regenerate nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (oxidized form) (NAD+), as opposed to anaerobic glycolysis that features the cyclical ability of the glycolytic lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) system to regenerate NAD+ upon pyruvate reduction to lactate. The free radical signal of cytochrome one is made by superoxide. This free radical is important to keep humming if you want optimal creativity in your neurons.

    An examination of scientific investigations on carbohydrate metabolism of brain tissue in the 1920s and 1930s has already revealed that lactate can be readily oxidized. However, due to the prevailing dogma, according to which lactate is a waste product, its oxidation was assumed to be a possible mechanism of elimination. This chapter examines both old and new research data on glucose glycolysis both in muscle and in brain tissues. This chapter consolidates the available data in an attempt to form a more accurate and clear description of this universal and very important bioenergetic chain of reactions.

    Now the story is complete where creativity and chaos are linked.
  8. Jack Kruse

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    This should also explain to you why people with altered states of dopamine and melatonin lose their mojo in thinking and movement too = PD disease.....another mitochondrial disease linked to broken free radical signaling due to altered light spectrums.
  9. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Can disease start just by living indoors? YEP.

    Did you know that being inside behind windows harms your health below your perception because it distorts the spectrum of the sun?

    Look at just how much the windows/glass in this picture distorts the solar spectrum, causing it to have a significantly more blue light. All windows do this, although usually to a lesser extent. This leads to chronic LIGHT stress response due to the body's reaction to blue light frequencies. It may seem so simple but this is actually how it works. A chronic light stress alters the methylation and acetylation pattern on your DNA because the light stress changes the free radical signal in the mitochondria.

    Long story short, spend time outdoors and if you have to be inside, open the windows and don't use artificial light. It is terrible for health.

    Light coming through the window is better than artificial light because it is not created by the electric power grid which induces flicker into the light, which creates a constant stress response in our brain.

    However, by design, windows block ultraviolet light, which is a critical part of the spectrum for optimal health, especially Avenue complex animals with high energy requirements such as humans.

    Windows also reduce the amount of infrared coming through, creating a relative increase in blue light, the details of which you can understand if you read some of my other posts. We need a IR-A, B, and C red light to balance blue light for proper hormonal and mitochondrial function.

    Being indoors behind windows is very far from optimal. It is closer than electric lighting, but not as good as being outdoors.

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  11. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    Thank you i get about 40% of it but do glimpses in the rest with some understanding
  12. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    so does any electronics needs electron transfer?
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  14. Sean Waters

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    I find it so ironic and brilliant, that you are asking about this, downloading Jack's information from his response and your Brain is deleting and erasing it just like he states in the first comment. And the same is happening to me LOL

    I get about 12% of it... but it is 10% more than yesterday.
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  16. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    thanks for that just got back to it and saw how little understanding i had.
    only a bit better now :)
  17. Sean Waters

    Sean Waters New Member

    No problem. I've been reading Information theory and trying to understand Angular Momentum.

    That video above, gives some history into Turing and how he got into Morphogenesis... it is spooky, but very interesting. I feel I know about 12.8% now lol...
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  18. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    gets to a point where i have enough on my plate for now :)
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