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Cataract surgery decision

Discussion in 'Meet and Greet' started by Emma Sabin, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I was newer wearing contact lenses.
    For the last about 40+ years I am checking my eyes once/year in the franchise, they changed names over years.
    I am seeing ophthalmologist there having variety of tests done.
    At one point they found
    narrow angle glaucoma.
    They send me to another franchise (Omni), there they drill holes using laser. Those holes are relieving any pressure buildup.
    With time I got cataracts.
    At first corrections were made via prescriptions.
    When time came I had (simple) lens implanted first in one eye then the other.

    Some people that I know would go to individual eye specialists. Some of them had rather serious disability afterward.
    I guess, problems are rare in both type of places.
    I just was placing my bets as I described.
    And I explained to you my reasons for those bets.

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  2. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    They are all surgeons.
    Some of them do surgeries more often.

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  3. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    Not "no risk" though, and unfortunately not my experience.:( My cataract formation covered up a retinal detachment in an eye that had previously had a retinal tear treated by laser. :(
  4. Emma Sabin

    Emma Sabin Gold

    Oh Sue what a find. I'm so sorry you've found this out.
    You'd think all the tests I had done last week would have shown a retinal detachment behind the cataract...
  5. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    I don't know enough about their tests, but I had to have an ultrasound. He didn't rule a retinal detachment out because I'd had a retinal tear lasered.Your retina behind the cataract may be healthy, but its what about years down the line ….. that may influence your decision on when and if to have surgery on the other eye.
  6. Emma Sabin

    Emma Sabin Gold

    I think I’ve pretty much decide not to have surgery on my healthy eye. Not for now anyway. I don’t think I have any choice regarding the one with cataract though. Do you?
  7. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    I think it needs looking at in context with the whole eye. For example in Nathan T Oxenfeld's book he talks about in cataract surgery the ciliary muscles being severed. Also the cataract only being in one eye is interesting. Why not both? Why that eye and not the other? If its a defence in response to something, what happens if you take away the defence? Too many unanswered questions for me to risk something I can't undo once done, when the other eye is healthy. Also I haven't given up on clearing the cataract - or my retina - naturally. :)
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  8. Emma Sabin

    Emma Sabin Gold

    I admire you Sue for not giving up like I am tempted to do!
  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I have newer heard of cataract going away.
    Would love to see some examples.

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  10. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    @Emma Sabin
    From my personal experience.
    My first cataract removal and lens replacement went away nicely.

    Few years latter, same place, same doctor, I was offered use of a laser to remove cataract.
    That cost me additional $1500.
    I was told that this way was not available when I did the first surgery.
    I did paid the $1500.
    It was very well wort it.
    I was able to see rather clearly the same night and all changes settled by day #2.
    In retrospect
    after first surgery it took about a week or couple days more for all to settle.

    I still waited for over a month with getting new eye glasses.
    The eyeglasses I use mostly for reading, but even for distance they make my vision slightly sharper.

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  11. Jude

    Jude Gold

    And there's the 'rub', is it not?

    Have you noticed any improvement in your cataract since following JK?
    Keep going Sue, want to hear of your success with clearing a cataract !
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2018
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  12. Alex97232

    Alex97232 Gold

    Hi Sue. Love your guts. Thank you for all your good ideas. What are you doing to clear your cataract/retina naturally?
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  13. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

    I got the news the day before I went to Fuerteventura near the end of October, so I took the Hollwich book about cataracts with me to read. But because one eye does not have a cataract, I don't need to rush my decision. The surgeon doesn't want to operate on the detachment, he is so doubtful he would do anything other than take a look and close up again, and just remove the cataract. He won't take my money for the retina surgery as a private patient.

    Since coming back about 2 weeks ago, I've had more blogs and books to look at and have gradually been making changes. Still a work in progress. :D

    I've read that the lens is made up of extremely thin layers, and when focusing 15 feet or farther it thins and the layers come closer together. 15 feet or closer and the lens thickens and the layers spread apart. If we don't use our eyes properly, or wear glasses, the lens loses its flexibility and becomes more rigid, and accumulates crap between the layers. (Nathan Oxenfeld book). So overcoming my aversion to exercise has been one thing. :rolleyes::oops: Doing a 2 mile vision walk every day now. (Scanning the horizon, looking at things at different distances etc, working the eye muscles naturally in natural light). I also do the exercises in the Nathan Oxenfeld book designed to avoid cataracts (along with others for avoiding other problems). I've adapted a few to do in cold dark and boring - one being "darking" instead of "sunning," :D another being a meditation version of palming the eyes, whilst flat on my back,( hoping that gravity assists :confused:. )Basically rub palms together to generate IR, place on the eyes and visualise the retina reattaching. 10 hours minimum of complete darkness at night. I think the rapid eye movement of REM sleep is important but I haven't delved into that yet. :confused:

    Just for starters. ;):D
  14. Emma Sabin

    Emma Sabin Gold

    Amazing Sue. Such an inspiration. Not gonna rush into my decision yet either....
  15. Sue-UK

    Sue-UK New Member

  16. Ski coach

    Ski coach Gold

    Five years ago my eye doctor said I had the beginnings of a cataract. I believe he said I was a 1 on a scale of 0 to 5. Last year, after years of Kruseing with seafood and sunlight, Doctor said my eye was a "zero." My myopia is also somewhat improved. I'll be turning 65 in less than 3 months and I believe I can still improve my vision further even at my age.
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  17. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    I just gave a talk 5 days ago in Mexico to a large audience of eye doctors and I used this video to explain how non linear effects of light help improve the balance of power in the retina and RPE of the eye to make it impossible to get a cataract or acute macular degeneration.........what was the predator in my example for my audience how to the improve the rivers of blood in the retina from the ophthalmic artery of the sick patients? It turns out that UV and IR light from AM sunlight is the "light predator" that the human eye must have to maintain its optimal health matrix. This juxtaposition stunned the eye doctors because all of them were taught to believe, as I was in med school, that UV light was a predator stimulus like the wolf was thought to be in Yellowstone. It turns out this linear thinking was dead wrong when it was examined closely when unleashed in nature. Moreover, when I showed them the effect of how a "hidden light predator" from AM light could 'tame" the retinal vessels and heal them because of the non-linear effects of UV and IR light our retina does not see on the fovea.......silence filled the room. When you know better, you can do better and think about your environment is a non-linear behavior I teach my tribe of misfits. UV and IR light act with a Warburg metabolism on the retina to create nitric oxide which sharpens camera vision improves the eye clock functioning and reduces the chance that cataracts form. They key is understanding where this transition occurs in your own life based on your light choices. No two eyes are the same.

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  18. Alex97232

    Alex97232 Gold

    Sue, thank you thank you for sharing/teaching.
  19. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    @Sue-UK i have an 80yo friend who has cataract in both eyes.
    if i understand UV+IR still goes through,as long as 1 can still see with this eye
    my idea is having the worst one done and waiting as long as for the other one.
    what do u say?
  20. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I am wondering how Emma is doing????? and if she had surgery?

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