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Ca channel blockers

Discussion in 'The EMF Rx' started by NeilBB, Oct 11, 2013.

  1. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    I'm surprised more people haven't jumped all over the calcium channel blocker to mitigate EMF idea hinted at in EE3 and since. There was even a link to a study. And there are other studies out there of verapamil and amlodipine decreasing neuronal damage from EMF's in lab animals! So, if most if not all EMF toxicity is mediated through VGCC's, predominantly L-type, then it seems clear to me that commonly available Ca-channel blockers should not only be first line for medical treatment of HTN today (not ACE inhibitors or angiotensin blockers, and certainly not diuretics and beta-blockers), but maybe should also be considered for normotensive individuals with a high EMF burden. Hell, maybe Norvasc (not Lipitor, of course) is the drug that the do-gooders should be lobbying to have "added to the water" in this EMF saturated world. Just kidding, sort of.

    My only theoretical concern after reading these studies is that calcium channel blockade may also decrease the normal "native-EMF" signalling mechanism to some extent as well. Not sure how specific it is for non-native vs native, and I suppose that could present a signalling problem as well.

    But for a person in a high EMF environment and/or in a case of pt with HTN that absolutely requires pharmacotherapy, the choice seems fairly clear. No?
     
  2. Clayton

    Clayton New Member

    Neil have you yourself used a Ca channel blocker? Has anyone else here used one and noticed benefits?
     
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  3. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    BOOM
     
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  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Twenty-three studies have shown that voltage-gated calcium channels (VGCCs) produce these and other EMF effects, such that the L-type or other VGCC blockers block or greatly lower diverse EMF effects.

    Do you block your calcium........cause I do.
     
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  5. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    I do lots of things most do not to slow the rate of electron steal syndrome.
     
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  6. Clayton

    Clayton New Member

    Hmmm. It just so happens i have some veramapil...start at lowest dosage or do you have any pearls for what produces optimal effect?
     
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  7. Clayton

    Clayton New Member

    Im also all ears if you wanna pass on any of your other tricks :) (ones you havent mentioned in the blog)
     
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  8. Josh

    Josh Gold


    Any idea if this will work Obi Wan?


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17533639

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxus_baccata
     
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  9. Clayton

    Clayton New Member

    Nice find Josh. If you seek out David Hoffmann's "Medical Herbalism" he lists several plant constituents known to have Ca Channel blocking action. Just not sure whether these would be as effective as a drug
     
  10. which ones do you use?
     
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  11. Jude

    Jude Gold

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    Truly Neil, I'm surprised you're surprised!................Can't speak for all here but the thought of taking
    ""Verapamil is used to treat high blood pressure and to control angina (chest pain).""
    without actually needing it for those conditions is kinda scary:eek:............ maybe it is good info and reckoned that's why JK dropped the hint...................BUT.....wow.......I can just see my kindly Dr ( who always asks what JK is up to ) just shaking her head....wouldn't this application need good supervision? A Dr in the house perhaps?
     
  12. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    Hey Jude,

    Well I wrote that 6 months ago actually, and I was just surprised that there wasn't more "buzz" about it after Jack mentioned it. Those are indeed prescription drugs and require a doctor's prescription. Amlodipine has less side effects than verapamil, especially with regard to slowing heart rate and has also been demonstrated to have EMF mitigating effects. A lot of people have hypertension these days. This class of drugs is also commonly used as a migraine preventative in conventional medicine.
     
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  13. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    Clayton,

    My N=1 is this. I developed hypertension in medical school probably partly due to a lot of the bad lifestyle choices I made as a result. I took beta blockers for years because they controlled my BP and kept me even keeled in stressful situations. Switched from beta blocker to amlodipine last year along with intense regular CT because of Jack. That got me off my plateau, and now my hypertension seems to be completely resolved off meds, but I do still take the amlodipine as an EMF mitigating agent. It doesn't bother me at all and is very cheap.
     
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  14. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    I use it when my ASI and melatonin are off.............and Neil if your BP goes awry again consider 500 cc's of hypertonic IV with some intranasal red light.........you'll be shock at the CV results
     
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  15. Jude

    Jude Gold

    Still sounds scary to me...............................
     
  16. BJK77

    BJK77 Gold

    Interesting. My doctor prescribed a Ca channel blocker for me to deal with excessively swollen and purple toes that had large nodules on them. I didn't take it because I feared the side effects - primarily lowering blood pressure when my BP is already on the low side. Now I'm wondering if it's still at the pharmacy waiting to be picked up . . . maybe I'll put it to use.

    I am supposed to take my daughter to NYC on Saturday for an event we booked months ago and with my recent severe EMF sensitivity this trip has me very concerned. Would it be wise to try out the Ca channel blocker to help me on this day?
     
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  17. SeaHorse

    SeaHorse Gold

    Hey sister BJK…I have a prescription sitting in my kitchen that I was given this Feb. after my atrial fib bout. I stopped taking it because I don't have high blood pressure either….My endo. guy also said that estrogen acts as a channel blocker…humm I don't seem to be able to add more than a smidge of estrogen before I get E dominant symptoms. I'm trying to up the P instead….This winter I felt the little EMF that I am exposed to very dramatically….at the computer (hardwired) and in the car. I'm definitely selling the car….still wondering about the prescription. Now that we are moving into spring, I'm hoping the outdoors will do the work.
     
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  18. Sistagrok

    Sistagrok Shanee

    Magnesium is a calcium channel blocker too ...
     
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  19. cantweight

    cantweight Gold

    I thought the ca channel blocker was to help with the efflux of ca in the cells when mag and water were pushed out? Did I misconstrue that?
    Is there a name brand/generic preference? Dosing the same as on label use?

    Any interactions to be aware of?
     
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  20. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    And what does Mg need to work?

    WATER
     

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