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Discussion in 'The Cave' started by PaulG, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    keep going...........
  2. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    CF patients can also develop a metabolic acidosis increasing their ventilatory requirement to compensate. Did Jeremy say he could breathe better at high altitudes?


    Perhaps the enhanced magnetic field and photoelectric effect up there as translated by his collagen superhighway supports his energy needs in the hypoxic climate, meanwhile allowing him to more efficiently ventilate and clear his CO2 and maintain acid-base balance.
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  3. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    need another crumb?

    "In physics, energy is power. I think a power to do something is of significant value in biology now. Whether the result is a good thing or a bad thing depends on how the power is used, but the power, itself, is a value. In biology, power is the redox potential. It directs what powers you can manifest within your proteins, and as such what kind of life you’ll live."
  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    keep going.........you are about the only one here who i think can solve this thermodynamic equation........When Jeremy's blog goes live you will shit the bed.
  5. Josh

    Josh New Member

    An epilepsy and breath story from my friend who has done a lot of rebirthing work. He said the most interesting case that he saw was a woman with a history of migraines followed by gran mal seizures. In a session, she stopped breathing for a while, turned blue and then started breathing again and never had another migraine or seizure. There may be more esoteric versions of this, but I am thinking physiology and some sort of reset to more optimal physiology based upon hypoxia?
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  6. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    OK Jack, here goes... Water chemistry is drastically altered in CF due to the CFTR dysfunction. Resultant extracellular dehydration contributes to the thick mucous of course, but more importantly interferes with ability to form exclusion zone and maintain good redox potential. When protons are pumped out of mitochondria, they will tend to accumulate because water is not available to neutralize and store protons as hydronium ions. This would typically lead to metabolic acidosis and inflammation.

    How would Jeremy combat this? Well, through his physical training he has built an extraordinary network of collagen to apparently maximize his ability to semiconduct despite his constant battle with dehydration and low redox potential. He then systematically collects the maximal possible number of electrons from the earth/rocks and energizes them constantly with photons from the sun. He prefers to live in mild hypoxia chronically, controlled partially by yoga/breathing at sea level and partially by seeking out lower O2-concentration air on the mountaintop. He does this to limit his mitochondria from producing too many protons because he lacks the ability to fully absorb and store them in excess due to chronic low redox potential. He prefers carbs because fatty acid oxidation requires a lot of oxygen and would also produce more protons than he could handle--again he would end up with metabolic acidosis otherwise, like other CF patients do. Hypoxic high-altitude air also allows him to ventilate more without necessarily increasing oxygenation which also helps to dissipate excess protons as needed.

    So his life requires an extraordinary metabolic precision to walk the tightrope of just enough oxygen and ATP production in mitochondria to unfold his proteins that work with his collagen in dehydration to support his semiconductors to optimize his own N=1. He has somehow learned to synesthetically "modulate his doses" of all these parameters by sensing his internal environment in some extraordinary way. His is so leptin sensitive that he is literally able to somehow "count his electrons" although he feels it in a way he can't really fully explain. What he "feels" out in nature on the rocks apparently includes an accurate subconscious representation of his internal "energy status" which he is apparently able to not only accurately sense but also has learned to modulate by instantaneously altering his breathing pace and his pressure on the rocks to always maintain maximal energy efficiency. That's what he means when he says he "breathes through touch."
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  7. cantweight

    cantweight Gold

    joining your fan club after that^^^^
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  8. caroline

    caroline New Member

    I actually understand all of that! thanks Neil! another groupie here.......
  9. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Neil........excellent.......one more part.......the most critical part.........what is it about his adonis body and CFTR that you are missing?
  10. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    the synkinesis part is linked to it.........
  11. Jude

    Jude Gold

    Wow Neil...great stuff and explained so well ...thanks...keep going!:)
  12. Linz

    Linz Gold

    Nitric oxide must be in there somewhere?
  13. Inger

    Inger Silver

    this thread is pretty exiting...! huh! :)
  14. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    As I read this - I wonder if this might be why - even when I have a methocoline challenge for asthma - my breath capacity only drops 1-2%. taking me from 100% O2 intakae to 98% intake. so maybe my "allergies/asthma " and my response to the changing environment was my form of adaptation to a changing EMF environment. It may also be why I feel like I can get a deeper breath at altitude even though the air is "rare" as we said at USAFA? Could it be possible that the current asthma epidemic is a response to prepare the next generation to breathe lower O2 levels w/a decreased lung capacity... similar to CF? Nature always has a way out....
  15. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    Awesome explanation... Neil! WOW!

    Christi Neil's explanation above goes back to the discussion you and I were having earlier this week....
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  16. sooperb

    sooperb New Member

    Thank you Neil, an understandable explanation. It's an interesting concept, someone being so aware of the macro performance of the things that make him tick.
  17. Shijin13

    Shijin13 Guest

    You know all this talk about breath and the impacts having me going back to Wim Hof's book http://www.icemanwimhof.com/shop/e-book

    very short read but he talks about his breathing technique. What's interesting is I've found I already use his technique when I get into the CT Tank. I've been consciously trying to incorporate his technique into my daily lives - but I think his technique is trying to induce hypoxia...and when I practice the technique I find myself in deep mediation through breath alone....
  18. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    It is Gretch.........but I am going to tell you why.

    It is a thermodynamic problem to solve.
  19. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    Well, still thinking, but here are some ideas... CFTR is an ATP-binding cassette transporter that regulates the movement of chloride and sodium ions across epithelial membranes. It is also a Maxwell demon, which means it is capable of modifying its conformation in response to external electromagnetic stimuli according to Loewenstein. He also theorizes that there are "channel demons" and "sensory demons." The "channel demons" are capable of allowing the passage of individual ions and the "sensory demons" are located in sense organs and sensory cortices and respond to various environmental and internal stimuli. There is a complex coupling between the two kinds of demons he calls the "demon tandem," which also ultimately reduces entropy and balances the thermodynamic equation. Typically the sensory demons will trigger the channel demons, through a series of conformational changes in these proteins, to ultimately produce a conscious response in the brain, if the stimulus is deemed worthy of that. (Many sensory stimuli have effects that don't reach the conscious level but still have effects, which is also a potential molecular mechanism of kind of "alternate subconscious visual pathway" you discussed back in the case of the gunshot kid at Charity in NOLA before. But, I digress.)

    I haven't finished the Loewenstein book yet, but it seems to me that a jumbling or rearrangement of the normal series or sequence of the way these various Maxwell demons interact with one another and the environment could produce a synesthesia/synkinesis phenomenon. In other words, maybe there has been some kind of functional rewiring of the way his sensory inputs and motor/glandular outputs communicate molecularly that in his case seems to be an adaptive response that has to occur within the laws of thermodynamics, probably at root a strategy to best utilize and conserve his limited energy. And maybe Jeremy's CFTR demon has figured out an adaptive epigenetic way to partially unfold itself and improve its limited functional ability that involves less ATP usage and more response to environmental electromagnetic stimuli (native-EMF), and maybe this could potentially function as a mitigation of the expression of his CFTR mutation and thus improve his ion transport??
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  20. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    Well, lets keep going... I haven't solved the thermodynamic equation yet but can see the outlines...

    Collagen nanotubes are electrified through piezoelectricity and powered by movement and sunlight. When fully functional, they resonate and oscillate with a specific frequency and charge that signals mitochondria to properly utilize electrons and protons. Earth's Schumann resonance facilitates proper electron spin in biological topologic insulators which allows quantum coherence and the zero-entropy system to operate at room temperature.

    You also laid a ton of groundwork in EMF-2:

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